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P van Rijckevorsel 07-01-2004 09:52 PM

Mystery thorn tree
 
Gene Royer schreef
What a silly thing to say in a public forum.
Do you ever stop to think before you hit the send key?
You're as silly as an Anseranas semipalmata.

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Actually it does not require thinking to repeat an established truth.
Vernacular names are only useful in a limited social context.
If social context is not specified it is a guessing game what the vernacular
name applies to. IIRC it is not that hard to find vernacular names that
refer to as many as a hundred species. Vernacular names often are worse than
useless because people assume that they adequately name a plant when they
give a vernacular name. Old stuff, especially in a public forum.
PvR





P van Rijckevorsel 07-01-2004 09:52 PM

Mystery thorn tree
 
Gene Royer schreef
What a silly thing to say in a public forum.
Do you ever stop to think before you hit the send key?
You're as silly as an Anseranas semipalmata.

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Actually it does not require thinking to repeat an established truth.
Vernacular names are only useful in a limited social context.
If social context is not specified it is a guessing game what the vernacular
name applies to. IIRC it is not that hard to find vernacular names that
refer to as many as a hundred species. Vernacular names often are worse than
useless because people assume that they adequately name a plant when they
give a vernacular name. Old stuff, especially in a public forum.
PvR





Gene Royer 08-01-2004 01:42 PM

Mystery thorn tree
 

"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message
...
Gene Royer schreef
What a silly thing to say in a public forum.
Do you ever stop to think before you hit the send key?
You're as silly as an .Anseranas semipalmata

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Actually it does not require thinking to repeat an established truth.
Vernacular names are only useful in a limited social context.
If social context is not specified it is a guessing game what the

vernacular
name applies to. IIRC it is not that hard to find vernacular names that
refer to as many as a hundred species. Vernacular names often are worse

than
useless because people assume that they adequately name a plant when they
give a vernacular name. Old stuff, especially in a public forum.
PvR



A public forum such as this where anecdotal information is mixed with
Google-gained knowledge is a "limited social context". Some of you may
elevate your diction in order to present a more erudite demeanor, but this
is still a Mickey Mouse public forum composed of pseudo intellectuals and
amateur botanical dabblers. Get unstuck on yourself.

More plants (and indeed species) are referred to in general identifications
by their vernacular nomenclature than are so by scientific names. Crabgrass
is crabgrass, loblolly pines are loblolly pines, and pin oaks are pin oaks.
An exception, of course is Anseranas semipalmata, which is always called by
that name.

--Genoglad I could clear that up for youRoyer



Gene Royer 08-01-2004 01:42 PM

Mystery thorn tree
 

"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
...
In article , Gene Royer
writes

You're silly. Of course vernacular names are useful. What a silly thing

to
say in a public forum. Do you ever stop to think before you hit the send
key? You're as silly as an Anseranas semipalmata.

Can I offer you 100 Rose of Sharons at $2.00 apiece? [1] (In the UK Rose
of Sharon is Hypericum calycinum, which is a ground cover plant, and it
shouldn't be difficult for me to dig up that sort of number of shoots.
In the US it is Hibiscus syriacus.)

[1] Not a serious offer; I would have to add P&P to make a profit.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley



Thanks Stewart, but I never buy stuff on the Internet.

--Geno



P van Rijckevorsel 08-01-2004 03:15 PM

Mystery thorn tree
 
Gene Royer schreef
A public forum such as this where anecdotal information is mixed with
Google-gained knowledge is a "limited social context".


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Yes but this shared social context is limited to such things as "DAGS". It
will be awhile yet before there are Google-approved common names for all the
plants in the world, or rather for the English-speaking-Google-world.
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Some of you may elevate your diction


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You sure have an advanced computer, if it reads your NGs out loud to you
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in order to present a more erudite demeanor, but this

is still a Mickey Mouse public forum composed of pseudo intellectuals and
amateur botanical dabblers.

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I assume this is an attempt to describe yourself? By the content of your
messages you are overestimating your abilities, you don't seem to qualify as
an amateur botanical dabbler.
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Get unstuck on yourself.


More plants (and indeed species) are referred to in general

identifications by their vernacular nomenclature than are so by scientific
names. Crabgrass is crabgrass, loblolly pines are loblolly pines, and pin
oaks are pin oaks. An exception, of course is Anseranas semipalmata, which
is always called by that name.

--Genoglad I could clear that up for youRoyer


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You can't spell either: "glad I could clear that up for you" would come to
"GICCTUFY" or "Gicctufy" not to "Geno"
PvR





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