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Darren Garrison 29-01-2004 04:06 PM

"exotic" trees for North America?
 
I'm wanting to plant a couple-three "weird" trees on a newly open spot of ground in my yard. I was
hoping for a baobab or a banyan, but I'm not sure if any of these will handle my climate ("7a" on
the system used in the US-- upper part of South Carolina). Any suggestions?


Cereus-validus 29-01-2004 06:36 PM

"exotic" trees for North America?
 
They won't survive in your zone.

How about growing a Franklinia instead?


Darren Garrison wrote in message
...
I'm wanting to plant a couple-three "weird" trees on a newly open spot of

ground in my yard. I was
hoping for a baobab or a banyan, but I'm not sure if any of these will

handle my climate ("7a" on
the system used in the US-- upper part of South Carolina). Any

suggestions?




IntarsiaCo 29-01-2004 10:45 PM

"exotic" trees for North America?
 
Any suggestions?

Peruse the latest Forestfarm.com catalog.

Iris Cohen 30-01-2004 02:52 PM

"exotic" trees for North America?
 
I'm wanting to plant a couple-three "weird" trees on a newly open spot of
ground in my yard. I was
hoping for a baobab or a banyan, but I'm not sure if any of these will handle
my climate ("7a" on
the system used in the US-- upper part of South Carolina). BRBR

Unfortunately, the ones you mention are not frost-hardy. You will have to do
some research in the library or on the Web. All serious reference material on
trees lists their hardiness zone. To be on the safe side, try to find trees
listed for Zone 6. That way, your tree won't be killed or severely damaged in
an unusually cold winter. On the other hand, if you like to gamble, try
something more exotic in a sheltered area of your yard, and give it extra
winter protection.
A couple of things to check out are the edible fig, which is the only species
in the genus that is winter-hardy, and has exotic looking leaves. There is also
a hardy banana plant which might grow there. The palmetto may be too common for
you to consider, but I think there are a few palms that may be frost hardy.
Another point to consider is that exotic trees grown outside of their native
area have a tendency to become noxious weeds, like tamarisks, Casuarina,
Chinaberry, Meleleuca, Lantana, etc. Don't plant anything like that,
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)

Iris Cohen 30-01-2004 03:09 PM

"exotic" trees for North America?
 
I'm wanting to plant a couple-three "weird" trees on a newly open spot of
ground in my yard. I was
hoping for a baobab or a banyan, but I'm not sure if any of these will handle
my climate ("7a" on
the system used in the US-- upper part of South Carolina). BRBR

Unfortunately, the ones you mention are not frost-hardy. You will have to do
some research in the library or on the Web. All serious reference material on
trees lists their hardiness zone. To be on the safe side, try to find trees
listed for Zone 6. That way, your tree won't be killed or severely damaged in
an unusually cold winter. On the other hand, if you like to gamble, try
something more exotic in a sheltered area of your yard, and give it extra
winter protection.
A couple of things to check out are the edible fig, which is the only species
in the genus that is winter-hardy, and has exotic looking leaves. There is also
a hardy banana plant which might grow there. The palmetto may be too common for
you to consider, but I think there are a few palms that may be frost hardy.
Another point to consider is that exotic trees grown outside of their native
area have a tendency to become noxious weeds, like tamarisks, Casuarina,
Chinaberry, Meleleuca, Lantana, etc. Don't plant anything like that,
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)

Iris Cohen 30-01-2004 03:32 PM

"exotic" trees for North America?
 
I'm wanting to plant a couple-three "weird" trees on a newly open spot of
ground in my yard. I was
hoping for a baobab or a banyan, but I'm not sure if any of these will handle
my climate ("7a" on
the system used in the US-- upper part of South Carolina). BRBR

Unfortunately, the ones you mention are not frost-hardy. You will have to do
some research in the library or on the Web. All serious reference material on
trees lists their hardiness zone. To be on the safe side, try to find trees
listed for Zone 6. That way, your tree won't be killed or severely damaged in
an unusually cold winter. On the other hand, if you like to gamble, try
something more exotic in a sheltered area of your yard, and give it extra
winter protection.
A couple of things to check out are the edible fig, which is the only species
in the genus that is winter-hardy, and has exotic looking leaves. There is also
a hardy banana plant which might grow there. The palmetto may be too common for
you to consider, but I think there are a few palms that may be frost hardy.
Another point to consider is that exotic trees grown outside of their native
area have a tendency to become noxious weeds, like tamarisks, Casuarina,
Chinaberry, Meleleuca, Lantana, etc. Don't plant anything like that,
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)

Darren Garrison 31-01-2004 05:12 AM

"exotic" trees for North America?
 
On 30 Jan 2004 14:48:19 GMT, (Iris Cohen) wrote:

a hardy banana plant which might grow there. The palmetto may be too common for


Thanks for the tips, I'm probably going to pick up some of these (Musa basjoo).

Another point to consider is that exotic trees grown outside of their native
area have a tendency to become noxious weeds, like tamarisks, Casuarina,
Chinaberry, Meleleuca, Lantana, etc. Don't plant anything like that,


Yeah, in looking into the hardyness of Amorphophallus sp. (I wanted a titanium, darn it) I came
across an interesting unusual vine called an "air patato". Then saw horror stories about what it
can do to an area.


Cereus-validus 31-01-2004 07:02 AM

"exotic" trees for North America?
 
That's great but bananas and Amorphophallus aren't trees.


Darren Garrison wrote in message
...
On 30 Jan 2004 14:48:19 GMT, (Iris Cohen) wrote:

a hardy banana plant which might grow there. The palmetto may be too

common for

Thanks for the tips, I'm probably going to pick up some of these (Musa

basjoo).

Another point to consider is that exotic trees grown outside of their

native
area have a tendency to become noxious weeds, like tamarisks, Casuarina,
Chinaberry, Meleleuca, Lantana, etc. Don't plant anything like that,


Yeah, in looking into the hardyness of Amorphophallus sp. (I wanted a

titanium, darn it) I came
across an interesting unusual vine called an "air patato". Then saw

horror stories about what it
can do to an area.




David Hershey 31-01-2004 07:32 AM

"exotic" trees for North America?
 
Darren Garrison wrote in message . ..
I'm wanting to plant a couple-three "weird" trees on a newly open spot of ground in my yard. I was
hoping for a baobab or a banyan, but I'm not sure if any of these will handle my climate ("7a" on
the system used in the US-- upper part of South Carolina). Any suggestions?


I agree that Franklinia (Franklinia alatamaha) would be a excellent
small ornamental tree. Its claim to fame is that it is extinct in the
wild.

You might wish to to visit some arboretums or botanic gardens in your
area to see some unusual trees that do well in your area. College
campuses sometimes have specimens of unusual trees. Your state
universities probably have booklets of recommended trees. This site
has hundreds of tree profiles with hardiness maps:
http://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/trees/taxon.htm

There are many national champion trees and historic trees available,
such as the George Washington tulip poplar and Elvis Presley sycamore.
The Patrick Henry Osage orange (Maclura pomifera) is both a national
champion and an historic tree. The American Forests Historic Tree
Nursery sells them.

Other unusual, often underplanted, species you might consider are
listed below. Copy the scientific name into google.com for more
details.

Umbrella magnolia (Magnolia tripetala) or bigleaf magnolia (Magnolia
macrophylla) -- huge leaves to 2.5 feet long give these species an
exotic look, large white flowers, not often planted

Kentucky coffee tree (Gymnocladus dioica) - large, coarse branching,
large compound leaves , female trees can produce large, brown pods
that give winter interest (pods can be messy)

Yellowwood (Cladrastis lutea) - fragrant wisteria-like blooms, smooth,
beech-like bark and yellow fall color.

Virginia fringe tree (Chionanthus virginicus) - small tree with
spectacular white flowers in spring, good yellow fall color and purple
fruit on female specimens

Mountain camellia (Stewartia ovata) - small tree, not often planted,
with large white flowers, mottled bark and red fall color

Sourwood (Oxydendrum arboreum) - underplanted, excellent fall color,
lily of valley like flowers in summer

Giant Sequoia (Sequoiadendron gigantea) - California native that holds
record as most massive tree

Redwood (Sequoia sempervirens) - California native that holds record
as tallest living tree.


Foreign species:

Not always considered trees but bamboos are exotic. Some species can
be invasive. Many species are hardy in your area.

Chinese Parasoltree (Firmiana simplex) - large, lobed leaves: green
stems, definitely bold and exotic

Monkey puzzle (Araucaria araucana) - exotic look, spiny leaves

China-Fir (Cunninghamia lanceolata) - another exotic conifer

Castor-Aralia (Kalopanax pictus) - large leaves, exotic look, not
commonly planted

Corkscrew willow (Salix matsudana, 'Tortuosa') - fast grower, medium
sized, with corkscrew branches, but weak wooded like many willows.

Harry Lauder's walking stick (Corylus avellana `Contorta') - a shrub
or small tree with very twisted branches, catkins in spring

Dove tree (Davidia involucrata) - rare in cultivation, white flowers
that look like doves or handerchiefs, famed plant explorer Ernest
Henry Wilson was sent to China to collect seed of this species

Katsura tree (Cercidiphyllum japonicum) - not often planted, only
species in its genus, beautiful leaves with scalloped edges, excellent
fall color, young leaves reddish purple, nice upright growth habit
although weeping cultivars available

Dawn redwood (Metasequoia glyptostroboides) - deciduous conifer
believed extinct and known only from fossils until discovered in China
in the 1940s, a fast grower.

Tricolor beech (Fagus sylvatica 'Roseomarginata') - spectacular large
tree with white, pink and green leaves. There are many other unique
beeches such as cut-leaf beech (Fagus sylvatica 'Asplenifolia'),
golden beech (Fagus sylvatica 'Zlatia') and weeping beech (Fagus
sylvatica 'Pendula')

Cedar of Lebanon (Cedrus libani) - the Biblical tree


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