As an amateur, I find this group helpful and interesting. I do not think
that you should be put off by the childish bad manners of the odd puffed-up,
self important individual.

Keep asking.



"swim learning" wrote in message
m...
"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
om...
Shame on you for not knowing this very common plant.

If you pull a plant up, you will notice that the roots smell exactly the
same as a carrot.


I am not a native of North America or Europe.

It seems this newsgroup is for serious academics rather than novices
and dabblers like me. Can you suggest another group where I can post
such questions?

I believe that some others may find the pictures of interest and
consider identifying other's photos as an interesting puzzle. I would
like to see such posts from others.

It is not obvious to me that I should smell a plant to identify it,
let alone pull out and check the roots. Nevertheless, I think it is a
good idea, and I may do this in the future. However, suppose the plant
is something like poison ivy? Also, most plant smells are not familiar
to me.

Can you recommend one or two basic books for identifying such plants?

Thank you.

Sorry - the URL produces only your business site

"Pete" wrote in message
...

Just this morning I was stuck on the ID of a plant in the carrot family,
and the closest I could find was Wild Carrot. But seeing the OP's photos,
I
now have doubts. Mostly because of the very hairy stems.

So, what's this one...?

http://www.seanet.com/~pmar/jse_Wild Carrot 1.JPG

Pete

Peter schreef
Sorry - the URL produces only your business site

+ + +
Try copy and paste
PvR

or
http://www.seanet.com/~pmar/jse_Wild%20Carrot%201.JPG

hey definitly would, used to teach one on the University level. However,
since you already know almost everything about everything, I guess you could
look up all of what you don't know in one small book. It would be quick and
easy for you. Sort of like all all your retorts.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
I have never asked any questions in this little newsgroup. Nobody here
would
know the answers.

I have far better, more accurate sources of information, than to waste my
time using public opinion as a source.

I actually go to research libraries and look things up in the original
sources in books and periodicals. You should try it. You might learn
something.

If someone needs hand holding, they should take an intro to botany class.

"Chuck" wrote in message
ink.net...
My God you are so critical of others, especially when one considers many
of
the "erudite" questions from you. Con boca cerrado no entran moscos.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
m...
Wake up, Mikey, and don't be such a gimp.

There are so many wild flower books out there that even a trained
chimp
could easily identify such a common plant without trying very hard.

The very fact that the plant smells like a carrot would be a blatant
clue
to
its identity even to a blind man.

So your wussy excuses have absolutely no merit at all. Especially
since
you
made absolutely no effort in trying to identify the plant yourself.


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
om...
"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
om...
Shame on you for not knowing this very common plant.

Oh, come on! That's no way to treat a willing learner who asks a
clear
question and provides good photographic evidence. The carrot family
can be tricky for a beginner, even with a field guide in hand, and
people need confirmation along the way.

Mike.

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 20:21:40 +0100, Peter wrote:

Sorry - the URL produces only your business site

Thanks for the tip... In future I'll avoid spaces in URLs!

No matter how much you grovel, Rinkytink, you are still not worthy enough to
touch my monkey!!!


"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message
...
swim learning schreef
I believe that some others may find the pictures of interest and
consider identifying other's photos as an interesting puzzle. I would
like to see such posts from others.

+ + +
On the whole it is nice to see pictures of plants on this newsgroup,
especially if the quality is good, so you can continue as you were.

There is nothing whatsoever that you can do that would not cause cereoid
to
make ugly comments, except possibly fall on your knees and worship him as
the genius he thinks he is (he probably would be bored even by that soon
enough).
PvR

I would tell you to bite me but I don't want to take the shots for rabies.


"Chuck" wrote in message
ink.net...
hey definitly would, used to teach one on the University level. However,
since you already know almost everything about everything, I guess you
could
look up all of what you don't know in one small book. It would be quick
and
easy for you. Sort of like all all your retorts.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
I have never asked any questions in this little newsgroup. Nobody here
would
know the answers.

I have far better, more accurate sources of information, than to waste
my
time using public opinion as a source.

I actually go to research libraries and look things up in the original
sources in books and periodicals. You should try it. You might learn
something.

If someone needs hand holding, they should take an intro to botany
class.

"Chuck" wrote in message
ink.net...
My God you are so critical of others, especially when one considers
many
of
the "erudite" questions from you. Con boca cerrado no entran moscos.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
m...
Wake up, Mikey, and don't be such a gimp.

There are so many wild flower books out there that even a trained
chimp
could easily identify such a common plant without trying very hard.

The very fact that the plant smells like a carrot would be a blatant
clue
to
its identity even to a blind man.

So your wussy excuses have absolutely no merit at all. Especially
since
you
made absolutely no effort in trying to identify the plant yourself.


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
om...
"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
om...
Shame on you for not knowing this very common plant.

Oh, come on! That's no way to treat a willing learner who asks a
clear
question and provides good photographic evidence. The carrot
family
can be tricky for a beginner, even with a field guide in hand, and
people need confirmation along the way.

Mike.

ONLY IF YOU WERE A REUBEN SANDWICH AND I WERE TRULY HUNGRY. SINCE NEITHER
IS TRUE THEN I THINK YOU WILL HAVE TO BITE YOURSELF. ENJOY!

AND, I'M SORRY TO HEAR YOU"VE BEEN MESSING WITH THOSE RACCOONS AGAIN. .

Chuck


"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
I would tell you to bite me but I don't want to take the shots for rabies.


"Chuck" wrote in message
ink.net...
hey definitly would, used to teach one on the University level.
However,
since you already know almost everything about everything, I guess you
could
look up all of what you don't know in one small book. It would be quick
and
easy for you. Sort of like all all your retorts.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
I have never asked any questions in this little newsgroup. Nobody here
would
know the answers.

I have far better, more accurate sources of information, than to waste
my
time using public opinion as a source.

I actually go to research libraries and look things up in the original
sources in books and periodicals. You should try it. You might learn
something.

If someone needs hand holding, they should take an intro to botany
class.

"Chuck" wrote in message
ink.net...
My God you are so critical of others, especially when one considers
many
of
the "erudite" questions from you. Con boca cerrado no entran
moscos.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
m...
Wake up, Mikey, and don't be such a gimp.

There are so many wild flower books out there that even a trained
chimp
could easily identify such a common plant without trying very
hard.

The very fact that the plant smells like a carrot would be a
blatant
clue
to
its identity even to a blind man.

So your wussy excuses have absolutely no merit at all. Especially
since
you
made absolutely no effort in trying to identify the plant
yourself.


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
om...
"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
om...
Shame on you for not knowing this very common plant.

Oh, come on! That's no way to treat a willing learner who asks a
clear
question and provides good photographic evidence. The carrot
family
can be tricky for a beginner, even with a field guide in hand,
and
people need confirmation along the way.

Mike.

Besides, You'd prefer touching it yourself, wouldn't you.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
news
No matter how much you grovel, Rinkytink, you are still not worthy enough
to
touch my monkey!!!


"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message
...
swim learning schreef
I believe that some others may find the pictures of interest and
consider identifying other's photos as an interesting puzzle. I would
like to see such posts from others.

+ + +
On the whole it is nice to see pictures of plants on this newsgroup,
especially if the quality is good, so you can continue as you were.

There is nothing whatsoever that you can do that would not cause cereoid
to
make ugly comments, except possibly fall on your knees and worship him
as
the genius he thinks he is (he probably would be bored even by that soon
enough).
PvR

You are still unworthy to touch my monkey!!!


"Chuck" wrote in message
nk.net...
Besides, You'd prefer touching it yourself, wouldn't you.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
news
No matter how much you grovel, Rinkytink, you are still not worthy
enough
to
touch my monkey!!!


"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message
...
swim learning schreef
I believe that some others may find the pictures of interest and
consider identifying other's photos as an interesting puzzle. I would
like to see such posts from others.

+ + +
On the whole it is nice to see pictures of plants on this newsgroup,
especially if the quality is good, so you can continue as you were.

There is nothing whatsoever that you can do that would not cause
cereoid
to
make ugly comments, except possibly fall on your knees and worship him
as
the genius he thinks he is (he probably would be bored even by that
soon
enough).
PvR

You are not allowed to play with spank the monkey.

You might give him monkey pox!!!!


"Chuck" wrote in message
nk.net...
ONLY IF YOU WERE A REUBEN SANDWICH AND I WERE TRULY HUNGRY. SINCE NEITHER
IS TRUE THEN I THINK YOU WILL HAVE TO BITE YOURSELF. ENJOY!

AND, I'M SORRY TO HEAR YOU"VE BEEN MESSING WITH THOSE RACCOONS AGAIN. .

Chuck


"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
I would tell you to bite me but I don't want to take the shots for
rabies.


"Chuck" wrote in message
ink.net...
hey definitly would, used to teach one on the University level.
However,
since you already know almost everything about everything, I guess you
could
look up all of what you don't know in one small book. It would be
quick
and
easy for you. Sort of like all all your retorts.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
I have never asked any questions in this little newsgroup. Nobody
here
would
know the answers.

I have far better, more accurate sources of information, than to
waste
my
time using public opinion as a source.

I actually go to research libraries and look things up in the
original
sources in books and periodicals. You should try it. You might learn
something.

If someone needs hand holding, they should take an intro to botany
class.

"Chuck" wrote in message
ink.net...
My God you are so critical of others, especially when one
considers
many
of
the "erudite" questions from you. Con boca cerrado no entran
moscos.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
m...
Wake up, Mikey, and don't be such a gimp.

There are so many wild flower books out there that even a
trained
chimp
could easily identify such a common plant without trying very
hard.

The very fact that the plant smells like a carrot would be a
blatant
clue
to
its identity even to a blind man.

So your wussy excuses have absolutely no merit at all.
Especially
since
you
made absolutely no effort in trying to identify the plant
yourself.


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
om...
"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
om...
Shame on you for not knowing this very common plant.

Oh, come on! That's no way to treat a willing learner who asks
a
clear
question and provides good photographic evidence. The carrot
family
can be tricky for a beginner, even with a field guide in hand,
and
people need confirmation along the way.

Mike.

Why is it no surprise that you show unusual cruelty not only to fellow
posters, but to a monkey as well?
PvR

Cereus-validus schreef
No matter how much you grovel, Rinkytink, you are still not worthy enough
to touch my monkey!!!

On 3 Aug 2004 06:47:44 -0700, swim learning wrote:

It seems this newsgroup is for serious academics rather than novices
and dabblers like me. Can you suggest another group where I can post
such questions?

The Name That Plant forum at GardenWeb is much more active and useful than
this group, IMHO...

http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/namegal/

Pete schreef
The Name That Plant forum at GardenWeb is much more active and useful than
this group, IMHO...

http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/namegal/

* * *
Indeed it looks to be more active, with a high pictorial content.
It does not suffer the disadvantages of Usenet (probably moderated?), so the
tone is a lot more positive.
PvR

Dear Pete --

Thanks for the reference. It is much more useful than usenet.

Bye.