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Old 11-08-2004, 03:41 PM
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Then you should learn to take your own advice and behave yourself,
Rinkytink.

Surely Iris must be offended by your misogynistic remarks. Maybe you can get
away with that stuff in the Netherlands, but in Israel, they could have you
arrested and shot for the nasty sexist and Anti-Semitic things you say.


"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message
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Stewart Robert Hinsley schreef
You could be so kind as to ignore her.


* * *
The problem of course is that new visitors don't know this: they tend to
take such postings at face value.
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Old 11-08-2004, 10:53 PM
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Physician, heal thyself...!!



"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
.. .
Then you should learn to take your own advice and behave yourself,
Rinkytink.

Surely Iris must be offended by your misogynistic remarks. Maybe you can

get
away with that stuff in the Netherlands, but in Israel, they could have

you
arrested and shot for the nasty sexist and Anti-Semitic things you say.


"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message
...
Stewart Robert Hinsley schreef
You could be so kind as to ignore her.


* * *
The problem of course is that new visitors don't know this: they tend to
take such postings at face value.
PvR






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Old 12-08-2004, 12:47 AM
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Sit UBU, sit.

woof!

Good boy!


"Peter Jason" wrote in message
...
Physician, heal thyself...!!



"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
.. .
Then you should learn to take your own advice and behave yourself,
Rinkytink.

Surely Iris must be offended by your misogynistic remarks. Maybe you can

get
away with that stuff in the Netherlands, but in Israel, they could have

you
arrested and shot for the nasty sexist and Anti-Semitic things you say.


"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message
...
Stewart Robert Hinsley schreef
You could be so kind as to ignore her.

* * *
The problem of course is that new visitors don't know this: they tend

to
take such postings at face value.
PvR








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Old 12-08-2004, 06:47 AM
Peter Jason
 
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Yeah well, I'm sitting and waiting for the punch line...!

and waiting..........

and waiting..........

and waiting..........


ol' Cerberus canus pussificatum inconsequentii semper uselessii is at a
loss for words.







"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
Sit UBU, sit.

woof!

Good boy!


"Peter Jason" wrote in message
...
Physician, heal thyself...!!



"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
.. .
Then you should learn to take your own advice and behave yourself,
Rinkytink.

Surely Iris must be offended by your misogynistic remarks. Maybe you

can
get
away with that stuff in the Netherlands, but in Israel, they could

have
you
arrested and shot for the nasty sexist and Anti-Semitic things you

say.


"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message
...
Stewart Robert Hinsley schreef
You could be so kind as to ignore her.

* * *
The problem of course is that new visitors don't know this: they

tend
to
take such postings at face value.
PvR










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Old 12-08-2004, 04:20 PM
Iris Cohen
 
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Surely Iris must be offended by your misogynistic remarks. Maybe you can get
away with that stuff in the Netherlands, but in Israel, they could have you
arrested and shot for the nasty sexist and Anti-Semitic things you say.
Will somebody please tell me what is going on? Why am I supposed to be ignored?
If you don't like my humor, it should definitely be ignored. The only thing
I've gotten from Pieter lately is information on hackberries.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)


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Old 12-08-2004, 05:22 PM
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Iris Cohen schreef
Will somebody please tell me what is going on? Why am I supposed to be

ignored? If you don't like my humor, it should definitely be ignored. The
only thing I've gotten from Pieter lately is information on hackberries.

* * *
Nothing is going on, except that Cereoid is boring even himself and
therefore switched to a mental state (perhaps induced by certain
substances?) where even the regulars don't follow what he is alluding to.
PvR








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In article ,
Iris Cohen wrote:
Surely Iris must be offended by your misogynistic remarks. Maybe you can get
away with that stuff in the Netherlands, but in Israel, they could have you
arrested and shot for the nasty sexist and Anti-Semitic things you say.


Will somebody please tell me what is going on? Why am I supposed to be ignored?


Dunno where "cereoid" gets this particular baseless accusation, Iris,
but the only misogynistic comments I've seen on this group have been
from him. You may have noticed in his tantrums he looks for particular
slurs to cast at his critics, childishly ridiculing their names,
nationalities, proficiency in idiomatic English in those for whom it's
not a first language, etc. Since I have what looks to Americans like a
female first name, he's made derogatory remarks about women when
"putting me in my place" in hopes of getting me to feel inferior to him
by virtue of his Y chromosome. Pretty silly, eh?

The only thing I can figure is that you have a female given name, and a
Jewish family name, so he thinks that anything critical of you or your
postings is ipso facto misogynistic and anti-Semitic. Thus he thinks
calling you a gardener because you wanted to know if plants in a
particular taxon have a "use" is anti-Semitic and misogynistic as well
as somehow derogatory. Bizarre.

I suppose claiming that someone could be arrested and shot for making
sexist and/or anti-Semitic comments in Israel could be regarded as an
anti-Semitic statement, but you'd have to be pretty touchy to construe
it that way, considering the context.

If you don't like my humor, it should definitely be ignored. The only thing
I've gotten from Pieter lately is information on hackberries.


Your humour is okay with me, FWIW. And I don't think a query about the
ethnobotany of an unfamiliar taxon is out of line here either. It
doesn't brand you a teleologist or a shudder *mere gardener*!

I generally ignore "cereoid" because almost all his postings, especially
recently, have been devoid of interest. He does occasionally show some
botanical knowledge, so I haven't put him in my kill file. There's no
point getting into exchanges with him, since they only encourage his
unmannerly behaviour. Also, I suspect he has a personality disorder,
and it's unkind to harass the mentally ill for their illness.

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Old 12-08-2004, 07:41 PM
Cereus-validus
 
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What a coward you are, Rinkytink. You don't even have the balls to say
you're sorry. You are the one with serious problems.

Why don't you just keep your nasty remarks to yourself if you aren't even
willing to admit you made them in the first place, you rotten troll. You
just keep on being the offensive bore you are.


"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message
...
Iris Cohen schreef
Will somebody please tell me what is going on? Why am I supposed to be

ignored? If you don't like my humor, it should definitely be ignored. The
only thing I've gotten from Pieter lately is information on hackberries.

* * *
Nothing is going on, except that Cereoid is boring even himself and
therefore switched to a mental state (perhaps induced by certain
substances?) where even the regulars don't follow what he is alluding to.
PvR




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Old 13-08-2004, 12:36 AM
Cereus-validus
 
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Now another hateful troll crawls out from the shadows to spread his spew. If
you have nothing better to do than make false accusations, why don't you
just stay in the shadows instead of showing everyone what a clueless
Canucklehead you are, you frog coward, by your fantasizing lame "straw man"
arguments.

If you think anyone who does not agree with you is mentally ill, you sure
are living on the wrong planet or else the aberrant one is really you,
wannabe Queen Bee!

wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
Iris Cohen wrote:
Surely Iris must be offended by your misogynistic remarks. Maybe you

can get
away with that stuff in the Netherlands, but in Israel, they could have

you
arrested and shot for the nasty sexist and Anti-Semitic things you say.


Will somebody please tell me what is going on? Why am I supposed to be

ignored?

Dunno where "cereoid" gets this particular baseless accusation, Iris,
but the only misogynistic comments I've seen on this group have been
from him. You may have noticed in his tantrums he looks for particular
slurs to cast at his critics, childishly ridiculing their names,
nationalities, proficiency in idiomatic English in those for whom it's
not a first language, etc. Since I have what looks to Americans like a
female first name, he's made derogatory remarks about women when
"putting me in my place" in hopes of getting me to feel inferior to him
by virtue of his Y chromosome. Pretty silly, eh?

The only thing I can figure is that you have a female given name, and a
Jewish family name, so he thinks that anything critical of you or your
postings is ipso facto misogynistic and anti-Semitic. Thus he thinks
calling you a gardener because you wanted to know if plants in a
particular taxon have a "use" is anti-Semitic and misogynistic as well
as somehow derogatory. Bizarre.

I suppose claiming that someone could be arrested and shot for making
sexist and/or anti-Semitic comments in Israel could be regarded as an
anti-Semitic statement, but you'd have to be pretty touchy to construe
it that way, considering the context.

If you don't like my humor, it should definitely be ignored. The only

thing
I've gotten from Pieter lately is information on hackberries.


Your humour is okay with me, FWIW. And I don't think a query about the
ethnobotany of an unfamiliar taxon is out of line here either. It
doesn't brand you a teleologist or a shudder *mere gardener*!

I generally ignore "cereoid" because almost all his postings, especially
recently, have been devoid of interest. He does occasionally show some
botanical knowledge, so I haven't put him in my kill file. There's no
point getting into exchanges with him, since they only encourage his
unmannerly behaviour. Also, I suspect he has a personality disorder,
and it's unkind to harass the mentally ill for their illness.



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Old 13-08-2004, 01:29 AM
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I think he means you should pass the potty-training exam before wading into
botany.
chortl



"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
Now another hateful troll crawls out from the shadows to spread his spew.

If
you have nothing better to do than make false accusations, why don't you
just stay in the shadows instead of showing everyone what a clueless
Canucklehead you are, you frog coward, by your fantasizing lame "straw

man"
arguments.

If you think anyone who does not agree with you is mentally ill, you sure
are living on the wrong planet or else the aberrant one is really you,
wannabe Queen Bee!

wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
Iris Cohen wrote:
Surely Iris must be offended by your misogynistic remarks. Maybe you

can get
away with that stuff in the Netherlands, but in Israel, they could have

you
arrested and shot for the nasty sexist and Anti-Semitic things you say.


Will somebody please tell me what is going on? Why am I supposed to be

ignored?

Dunno where "cereoid" gets this particular baseless accusation, Iris,
but the only misogynistic comments I've seen on this group have been
from him. You may have noticed in his tantrums he looks for particular
slurs to cast at his critics, childishly ridiculing their names,
nationalities, proficiency in idiomatic English in those for whom it's
not a first language, etc. Since I have what looks to Americans like a
female first name, he's made derogatory remarks about women when
"putting me in my place" in hopes of getting me to feel inferior to him
by virtue of his Y chromosome. Pretty silly, eh?

The only thing I can figure is that you have a female given name, and a
Jewish family name, so he thinks that anything critical of you or your
postings is ipso facto misogynistic and anti-Semitic. Thus he thinks
calling you a gardener because you wanted to know if plants in a
particular taxon have a "use" is anti-Semitic and misogynistic as well
as somehow derogatory. Bizarre.

I suppose claiming that someone could be arrested and shot for making
sexist and/or anti-Semitic comments in Israel could be regarded as an
anti-Semitic statement, but you'd have to be pretty touchy to construe
it that way, considering the context.

If you don't like my humor, it should definitely be ignored. The only

thing
I've gotten from Pieter lately is information on hackberries.


Your humour is okay with me, FWIW. And I don't think a query about the
ethnobotany of an unfamiliar taxon is out of line here either. It
doesn't brand you a teleologist or a shudder *mere gardener*!

I generally ignore "cereoid" because almost all his postings, especially
recently, have been devoid of interest. He does occasionally show some
botanical knowledge, so I haven't put him in my kill file. There's no
point getting into exchanges with him, since they only encourage his
unmannerly behaviour. Also, I suspect he has a personality disorder,
and it's unkind to harass the mentally ill for their illness.







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Old 13-08-2004, 06:38 AM
Cereus-validus
 
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There is no value to advice from a rutting troll like you that has a cranial
cavity chock full of fecal matter. If it wasn't for your intimacy with
manure, you would have no connection with plants at all, Peter Jacker.


"Peter Jason" wrote in message
...
I think he means you should pass the potty-training exam before wading

into
botany.
chortl



"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
Now another hateful troll crawls out from the shadows to spread his

spew.
If
you have nothing better to do than make false accusations, why don't you
just stay in the shadows instead of showing everyone what a clueless
Canucklehead you are, you frog coward, by your fantasizing lame "straw

man"
arguments.

If you think anyone who does not agree with you is mentally ill, you

sure
are living on the wrong planet or else the aberrant one is really you,
wannabe Queen Bee!

wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
Iris Cohen wrote:
Surely Iris must be offended by your misogynistic remarks. Maybe

you
can get
away with that stuff in the Netherlands, but in Israel, they could

have
you
arrested and shot for the nasty sexist and Anti-Semitic things you

say.


Will somebody please tell me what is going on? Why am I supposed to

be
ignored?

Dunno where "cereoid" gets this particular baseless accusation, Iris,
but the only misogynistic comments I've seen on this group have been
from him. You may have noticed in his tantrums he looks for

particular
slurs to cast at his critics, childishly ridiculing their names,
nationalities, proficiency in idiomatic English in those for whom it's
not a first language, etc. Since I have what looks to Americans like

a
female first name, he's made derogatory remarks about women when
"putting me in my place" in hopes of getting me to feel inferior to

him
by virtue of his Y chromosome. Pretty silly, eh?

The only thing I can figure is that you have a female given name, and

a
Jewish family name, so he thinks that anything critical of you or your
postings is ipso facto misogynistic and anti-Semitic. Thus he thinks
calling you a gardener because you wanted to know if plants in a
particular taxon have a "use" is anti-Semitic and misogynistic as well
as somehow derogatory. Bizarre.

I suppose claiming that someone could be arrested and shot for making
sexist and/or anti-Semitic comments in Israel could be regarded as an
anti-Semitic statement, but you'd have to be pretty touchy to construe
it that way, considering the context.

If you don't like my humor, it should definitely be ignored. The only

thing
I've gotten from Pieter lately is information on hackberries.

Your humour is okay with me, FWIW. And I don't think a query about

the
ethnobotany of an unfamiliar taxon is out of line here either. It
doesn't brand you a teleologist or a shudder *mere gardener*!

I generally ignore "cereoid" because almost all his postings,

especially
recently, have been devoid of interest. He does occasionally show

some
botanical knowledge, so I haven't put him in my kill file. There's no
point getting into exchanges with him, since they only encourage his
unmannerly behaviour. Also, I suspect he has a personality disorder,
and it's unkind to harass the mentally ill for their illness.







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Old 13-08-2004, 06:58 AM
Peter Jason
 
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Tsk! Forgot our Valium did we?


"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
There is no value to advice from a rutting troll like you that has a

cranial
cavity chock full of fecal matter. If it wasn't for your intimacy with
manure, you would have no connection with plants at all, Peter Jacker.


"Peter Jason" wrote in message
...
I think he means you should pass the potty-training exam before wading

into
botany.
chortl



"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
Now another hateful troll crawls out from the shadows to spread his

spew.
If
you have nothing better to do than make false accusations, why don't

you
just stay in the shadows instead of showing everyone what a clueless
Canucklehead you are, you frog coward, by your fantasizing lame "straw

man"
arguments.

If you think anyone who does not agree with you is mentally ill, you

sure
are living on the wrong planet or else the aberrant one is really you,
wannabe Queen Bee!

wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
Iris Cohen wrote:
Surely Iris must be offended by your misogynistic remarks. Maybe

you
can get
away with that stuff in the Netherlands, but in Israel, they could

have
you
arrested and shot for the nasty sexist and Anti-Semitic things you

say.


Will somebody please tell me what is going on? Why am I supposed to

be
ignored?

Dunno where "cereoid" gets this particular baseless accusation,

Iris,
but the only misogynistic comments I've seen on this group have been
from him. You may have noticed in his tantrums he looks for

particular
slurs to cast at his critics, childishly ridiculing their names,
nationalities, proficiency in idiomatic English in those for whom

it's
not a first language, etc. Since I have what looks to Americans

like
a
female first name, he's made derogatory remarks about women when
"putting me in my place" in hopes of getting me to feel inferior to

him
by virtue of his Y chromosome. Pretty silly, eh?

The only thing I can figure is that you have a female given name,

and
a
Jewish family name, so he thinks that anything critical of you or

your
postings is ipso facto misogynistic and anti-Semitic. Thus he

thinks
calling you a gardener because you wanted to know if plants in a
particular taxon have a "use" is anti-Semitic and misogynistic as

well
as somehow derogatory. Bizarre.

I suppose claiming that someone could be arrested and shot for

making
sexist and/or anti-Semitic comments in Israel could be regarded as

an
anti-Semitic statement, but you'd have to be pretty touchy to

construe
it that way, considering the context.

If you don't like my humor, it should definitely be ignored. The

only
thing
I've gotten from Pieter lately is information on hackberries.

Your humour is okay with me, FWIW. And I don't think a query about

the
ethnobotany of an unfamiliar taxon is out of line here either. It
doesn't brand you a teleologist or a shudder *mere gardener*!

I generally ignore "cereoid" because almost all his postings,

especially
recently, have been devoid of interest. He does occasionally show

some
botanical knowledge, so I haven't put him in my kill file. There's

no
point getting into exchanges with him, since they only encourage his
unmannerly behaviour. Also, I suspect he has a personality

disorder,
and it's unkind to harass the mentally ill for their illness.









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Old 13-08-2004, 01:50 PM
Cereus-validus
 
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You better hurry up and take your Valium before somebody who doesn't know
you are a jerk hurts you.


"Peter Jason" wrote in message
...
Tsk! Forgot our Valium did we?


"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
There is no value to advice from a rutting troll like you that has a

cranial
cavity chock full of fecal matter. If it wasn't for your intimacy with
manure, you would have no connection with plants at all, Peter Jacker.


"Peter Jason" wrote in message
...
I think he means you should pass the potty-training exam before wading

into
botany.
chortl



"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
Now another hateful troll crawls out from the shadows to spread his

spew.
If
you have nothing better to do than make false accusations, why don't

you
just stay in the shadows instead of showing everyone what a clueless
Canucklehead you are, you frog coward, by your fantasizing lame

"straw
man"
arguments.

If you think anyone who does not agree with you is mentally ill, you

sure
are living on the wrong planet or else the aberrant one is really

you,
wannabe Queen Bee!

wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
Iris Cohen wrote:
Surely Iris must be offended by your misogynistic remarks.

Maybe
you
can get
away with that stuff in the Netherlands, but in Israel, they

could
have
you
arrested and shot for the nasty sexist and Anti-Semitic things

you
say.


Will somebody please tell me what is going on? Why am I supposed

to
be
ignored?

Dunno where "cereoid" gets this particular baseless accusation,

Iris,
but the only misogynistic comments I've seen on this group have

been
from him. You may have noticed in his tantrums he looks for

particular
slurs to cast at his critics, childishly ridiculing their names,
nationalities, proficiency in idiomatic English in those for whom

it's
not a first language, etc. Since I have what looks to Americans

like
a
female first name, he's made derogatory remarks about women when
"putting me in my place" in hopes of getting me to feel inferior

to
him
by virtue of his Y chromosome. Pretty silly, eh?

The only thing I can figure is that you have a female given name,

and
a
Jewish family name, so he thinks that anything critical of you or

your
postings is ipso facto misogynistic and anti-Semitic. Thus he

thinks
calling you a gardener because you wanted to know if plants in a
particular taxon have a "use" is anti-Semitic and misogynistic as

well
as somehow derogatory. Bizarre.

I suppose claiming that someone could be arrested and shot for

making
sexist and/or anti-Semitic comments in Israel could be regarded as

an
anti-Semitic statement, but you'd have to be pretty touchy to

construe
it that way, considering the context.

If you don't like my humor, it should definitely be ignored. The

only
thing
I've gotten from Pieter lately is information on hackberries.

Your humour is okay with me, FWIW. And I don't think a query

about
the
ethnobotany of an unfamiliar taxon is out of line here either. It
doesn't brand you a teleologist or a shudder *mere gardener*!

I generally ignore "cereoid" because almost all his postings,

especially
recently, have been devoid of interest. He does occasionally show

some
botanical knowledge, so I haven't put him in my kill file.

There's
no
point getting into exchanges with him, since they only encourage

his
unmannerly behaviour. Also, I suspect he has a personality

disorder,
and it's unkind to harass the mentally ill for their illness.











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Old 13-08-2004, 03:22 PM
Iris Cohen
 
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in Israel, they could have you arrested and shot for the nasty sexist and
Anti-Semitic things you say.

For the record, Israel has a long history of free speech. Anyone who made
anti-semitic remarks in public would probably be laughed at. If he said
anything particularly inflammatory, he might be arrested and fined. If he were
not a citizen, he might be deported. If he were shot, it would be by another
Israeli, not the government.
Unfortunately, because of the power of extremely conservative religious
elements, misogyny in Israel is all too prevalent. Feminism at the grassroots
level progresses, but very slowly. If you made sexist remarks in Tel Aviv, you
would be in trouble. If you made sexist remarks in certain areas of Jerusalem
or the Arab towns, you would be considered normal.
Back to plants.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)
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Iris Cohen
 
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I had to admit to Stewart that I'm even worse than he thought. Whenever I meet
a new kind of tree, my first reaction is, is it good for bonsai? It's
incurable. I keep wondering about Ptericeltis, with that peeling bark.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)
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