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am an MBA student BRBR
Natural products which a 1) Impossible, extremely difficult, or extremely expensive to synthesize in bulk BRBR Common sense. 2) Hard or inefficient to isolate from natural sources BRBR Maple sap 3) Of commercial interest to pharmaceutical, vitamin, food, or cosmetic industries BRBR Both of the above. 4) The biosynthetic pathway (genes) has been outlined BRBR Maple sap, yes. Dunno if there is a gene for common sense. Some of us have it; some don't. It is not confined to humans. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
Enzymes
"Dirk Bussiere" wrote in message m... am an MBA student (also, a Ph.D. in biochemistry) who is in the process of writing a business plan as a class assignment. In the context of this assignment, I was wondering if anyone might be able to suggest natural products which fit the following criteria: Natural products which a 1) Impossible, extremely difficult, or extremely expensive to synthesize in bulk 2) Hard or inefficient to isolate from natural sources 3) Of commercial interest to pharmaceutical, vitamin, food, or cosmetic industries 4) The biosynthetic pathway (genes) has been outlined Number 4 is not absolutely necessary; #1-3 are. Suggestions would be welcome. -Dirk |
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Man, if you could make really good synthetic saffron or vanilla
flavoring, identical to the natural stuff, you'd be rich. M. Reed Dirk Bussiere wrote: am an MBA student (also, a Ph.D. in biochemistry) who is in the process of writing a business plan as a class assignment. In the context of this assignment, I was wondering if anyone might be able to suggest natural products which fit the following criteria: Natural products which a 1) Impossible, extremely difficult, or extremely expensive to synthesize in bulk 2) Hard or inefficient to isolate from natural sources 3) Of commercial interest to pharmaceutical, vitamin, food, or cosmetic industries 4) The biosynthetic pathway (genes) has been outlined Number 4 is not absolutely necessary; #1-3 are. Suggestions would be welcome. -Dirk -- ˙WPC5 |
The product "Melange" from the planet Dune (Arrakis) !
Just a SciFi joke :-) MVH "Dirk Bussiere" skrev i melding m... am an MBA student (also, a Ph.D. in biochemistry) who is in the process of writing a business plan as a class assignment. In the context of this assignment, I was wondering if anyone might be able to suggest natural products which fit the following criteria: Natural products which a 1) Impossible, extremely difficult, or extremely expensive to synthesize in bulk 2) Hard or inefficient to isolate from natural sources 3) Of commercial interest to pharmaceutical, vitamin, food, or cosmetic industries 4) The biosynthetic pathway (genes) has been outlined Number 4 is not absolutely necessary; #1-3 are. Suggestions would be welcome. -Dirk |
Natural products which a
1) Impossible, extremely difficult, or extremely expensive to synthesize in bulk 2) Hard or inefficient to isolate from natural sources 3) Of commercial interest to pharmaceutical, vitamin, food, or cosmetic industries 4) The biosynthetic pathway (genes) has been outlined BRBR Pinon pine nuts, pignolis. I also second the motion on saffron and vanilla. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
"Monique Reed"
Man, if you could make really good synthetic saffron or vanilla flavoring, identical to the natural stuff, you'd be rich. M. Reed ------------- Self pollinating vanilla bean plants would work too! -- donald j haarmann ------------------------------ At a Scottish wedding the bridegroom, as was customary at a wedding breakfast, arose to respond to the toast of the health of the bride. He was not used to public speaking and, words failing him, he contented himself with the response, "Well, there's naething wrang with the woman" ; and in proposing the toast of "Applied Science" he should like to point the moral of this story, and say that there was nothing wrong with it ; that it was in a state of absolute health, and in this country, as well as in others, it was in a state of marvelous fertility, and as each branch of Applied Sciences was apparently capable of producing any number of other branches of Applied Science, as time went on they might expect a somewhat numerous family. Sir William Ramsay K.C.B.. D.Sc., LL.D., lF.R.S. Bradford, Wednesday, July 15, 1903. |
Vanilla is a genus of orchid not a bean, Donald.
To be able to self pollinate the flowers, you would first need to be growing the plants in full bloom!!! "donald j haarmann" wrote in message ... "Monique Reed" Man, if you could make really good synthetic saffron or vanilla flavoring, identical to the natural stuff, you'd be rich. M. Reed ------------- Self pollinating vanilla bean plants would work too! -- donald j haarmann ------------------------------ At a Scottish wedding the bridegroom, as was customary at a wedding breakfast, arose to respond to the toast of the health of the bride. He was not used to public speaking and, words failing him, he contented himself with the response, "Well, there's naething wrang with the woman" ; and in proposing the toast of "Applied Science" he should like to point the moral of this story, and say that there was nothing wrong with it ; that it was in a state of absolute health, and in this country, as well as in others, it was in a state of marvelous fertility, and as each branch of Applied Sciences was apparently capable of producing any number of other branches of Applied Science, as time went on they might expect a somewhat numerous family. Sir William Ramsay K.C.B.. D.Sc., LL.D., lF.R.S. Bradford, Wednesday, July 15, 1903. |
"Cereus-validus" wrote in
m: "donald j haarmann" wrote in message ... "Monique Reed" Man, if you could make really good synthetic saffron or vanilla flavoring, identical to the natural stuff, you'd be rich. M. Reed ------------- Self pollinating vanilla bean plants would work too! -- donald j haarmann ------------------------------ (Top posting repaired) Vanilla is a genus of orchid not a bean, Donald. To be able to self pollinate the flowers, you would first need to be growing the plants in full bloom!!! The word "vanilla" comes from another word meaning "little bean", are you proposing a name change from "Vanilla" to "Testicula"? Then you will have a plant named after a part of you! In the normal course of events, you need to have a plant growing in full bloom no matter how you pollinate them. Sean |
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Vanilla is a genus of orchid not a bean, Donald.
To be able to self pollinate the flowers, you would first need to be growing the plants in full bloom!!! BRBR Actually I believe the vanilla fruit is considered a pod, but it is often called a bean. It is quite different from other orchid fruits, most of which are capsules. One reason vanilla is so expensive is that the vanilla pods require extensive preparation before the vanilla essence is extracted. The word "vanilla" comes from another word meaning "little bean", Not true. It comes from the Spanish word vainilla, meaning a little sheath. It is from the same Latin root as vagina. Another reason why vanilla is so labor intensive, & hence expensive, is that there is no natural pollinator in the parts of the world where it is grown today. It has to be hand pollinated. Since the flowers only last a day or so, the workers have to go through the plantation on a daily basis to pollinate them. Another problem is that there are several viruses which attack vanilla vines. The person who develops a self-pollinating, disease-resistant vanilla cultivar will definitely have it made. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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"Iris Cohen" wrote in message ...
Vanilla is a genus of orchid not a bean, Donald. To be able to self pollinate the flowers, you would first need to be growing the plants in full bloom!!! BRBR Actually I believe the vanilla fruit is considered a pod, but it is often called a bean. It is quite different from other orchid fruits, most of which are capsules. One reason vanilla is so expensive is that the vanilla pods require extensive preparation before the vanilla essence is extracted. --------- Sorry I cannot find all the posts on this, therefore, I am replying here. Taking my copy of:— JW Puseglve & et al Tropical Agriculture Series Spices Longman 1981 Chaper 11 Vanilla pg. 644-735 p. 644 "The fruits are usually refered to as vanilla beans." p. 648 Fruit "The capsule, know in the trade as a bean, in pendulous, narrowly cylindrical, obscurely three-angled, 10 - 25 cm long and 5 - 15 mm in diameter......" NB - I was not writing for publication only for da Net! The largest expenses of vanilla is that the plants have to be hand pollinated!! "The flower is so constructed that self-pollination of the individual flower is impossible, unless hand-pollinated, due to the separation of the stamen from the stigma by the rostellum." The plants only flower once a year over a period of two months. ... Fruit set is highest when pollination is done very early on a bright morning following rain!! -- donald j haarmann ------------------------------- Professor Edgeworth of All Soul's avoided conversational English, persistently using words and phrases one expects to meet only in books. One evening, Lawrence [the famous Lawrenece of Arabia] returned from a visit to London, and Edgeworth met him at the gate. "Was it very caliginous in the metropolis?" "Some what caliginonus, but not altogether ins****ated," Lawrenece replied gravely. |
"Some what caliginous, but not altogether ins****ated,"
Sounds foggy to me. ;-) Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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