"How do you get to Sunset Zone 40? Take the Ventura Freeway to another
freeway until you get to the Slauson cutoff. Stop the car. Get out of your car.
Cut off your Slauson. Realize what a painful thing you did. Get back in
your car and travel until you come to ...the fork in the road."

Huh? Who made that up? I am not familiar enough with California geography to
get the joke. Sunset Zone 40 is a band of territory that runs east-northeast
from around western Ohio to New England, following the south shore of Lake Erie
and Lake Ontario. It begins several miles from the lakeshore. Sunset Zone 39 is
right on the lakes, primarily in USDA Zone 6. Sunset Zone 40 is primarily in
Zone 5. The original flora of the area was mixed forest, oaks, maples, pines
and assorted other trees & bushes. It is mostly too cold for rhododendrons and
fancy flowering trees. It gets a lot of rain and snow, but no earthquakes or
hurricanes. The summers can be buggy, but not too hot & humid. Gardening is a
challenge, but reasonably successful. The scenery is nice, but not spectacular.
It is well-known for drumlins & other glacier remnants. Plant aficionados who
do not ski have to grow indoors under lights in the winter in order to survive.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"When you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra

That was taken from a routine done over the years by Art Fern, host of the
"Tea Time Movie", on the Johnny Carson show. It was written by some unknown
demented comedy writer and is probably a takeoff of some old Vaudeville
routine.

http://www.angelfire.com/tv2/eccentric/artfern.htm


Here is an artist's conception of the notorious "fork in the road".

http://www.will-harris.com/food/asse...outons-com.jpg

If you have a preference for other cutlery, try this one.

http://www.stare.com/1998/period10j.gif


"Iris Cohen" wrote in message
...
"How do you get to Sunset Zone 40? Take the Ventura Freeway to another
freeway until you get to the Slauson cutoff. Stop the car. Get out of your
car.
Cut off your Slauson. Realize what a painful thing you did. Get back in
your car and travel until you come to ...the fork in the road."

Huh? Who made that up? I am not familiar enough with California geography
to
get the joke. Sunset Zone 40 is a band of territory that runs
east-northeast
from around western Ohio to New England, following the south shore of Lake
Erie
and Lake Ontario. It begins several miles from the lakeshore. Sunset Zone
39 is
right on the lakes, primarily in USDA Zone 6. Sunset Zone 40 is primarily
in
Zone 5. The original flora of the area was mixed forest, oaks, maples,
pines
and assorted other trees & bushes. It is mostly too cold for rhododendrons
and
fancy flowering trees. It gets a lot of rain and snow, but no earthquakes
or
hurricanes. The summers can be buggy, but not too hot & humid. Gardening
is a
challenge, but reasonably successful. The scenery is nice, but not
spectacular.
It is well-known for drumlins & other glacier remnants. Plant aficionados
who
do not ski have to grow indoors under lights in the winter in order to
survive.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"When you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra

It is mostly too cold for rhododendrons and
fancy flowering trees.

By that I meant native rhododendrons. With reasonable care, hybrid
rhododendrons and flowering crabapples abound. We can grow flowering dogwoods &
redbud, but they are rarely found in the wild.

Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"When you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra

You must be having another "senior moment".

What does any of that have to do with the "fork in the road"?


"Iris Cohen" wrote in message
...
It is mostly too cold for rhododendrons and
fancy flowering trees.

By that I meant native rhododendrons. With reasonable care, hybrid
rhododendrons and flowering crabapples abound. We can grow flowering
dogwoods &
redbud, but they are rarely found in the wild.

Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"When you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra

What does any of that have to do with the "fork in the road"?

The PS had to do with rhododendrons & flowering trees in Sunset Zone 40.
Fashizzle must have missed my previous message. There was some sort of garbled
joke about Sunset
Zone 40, comprehensible only to Californians. So I wrote a relatively sane
description of what Zone 40 actually is. See the Sunset National Gardening
Book. My signature file has included one of Yogi Berra's famous quotes. I will
change it, so you will have something else to twit me about.
Ceriusly, Steve, are you planning to be at the World Bonsai Convention in
Washington next May? If not, I may be passing through Baltimore. I'm hoping to
get to meet you.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"When you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra

First of all, forgive me my bad English because I'm flemmish...

There was a 'little' discussion about the meaning of epiphytes and aerophytes.

Well,
epiphytes and aerophytes are both life-form sytems that were added to the Raunkiaer life-form system which was incomplete...
Epiphytes are plants which grow on other plants.
Aerophytes can also grow on other plants, but it's also possible that they grow on electric wires, stones (like litiphytic lichens) and so on. A used definition of aerophytes is: plants with perennating buds above ground surface with an atrophic system (not fixed to soil). Most of the aerophytes are perennial herbaceous.

Iris Cohen Wrote:
Aerophyte is essentially a synonym for epiphyte, which is what
Platycerium is.
I wouldn't call it a class, since class has another meaning in biology.
Being
an epiphyte is one way that plants grow.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"When you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra

First of all, forgive me my bad English because I'm flemmish...

There was a 'little' discussion about the meaning of epiphytes and
aerophytes.

Well,
epiphytes and aerophytes are both life-form sytems that were added to
the Raunkiaer life-form system which was incomplete...
Epiphytes are plants which grow on other plants.
Aerophytes can also grow on other plants, but it's also possible that
they grow on electric wires, stones (like litiphytic lichens) and so
on. A used definition of aerophytes is: plants with perennating buds
above ground surface with an atrophic system (not fixed to soil). Most
of the aerophytes are perennial herbaceous.


--
Stinus

Blame it on the flu season. I'm a bit phlegmish myself right now with a
really bad cough and should be resting in bed.


"Stinus" wrote in message
...

Iris Cohen Wrote:
Aerophyte is essentially a synonym for epiphyte, which is what
Platycerium is.
I wouldn't call it a class, since class has another meaning in biology.
Being
an epiphyte is one way that plants grow.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"When you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra

First of all, forgive me my bad English because I'm flemmish...

There was a 'little' discussion about the meaning of epiphytes and
aerophytes.

Well,
epiphytes and aerophytes are both life-form sytems that were added to
the Raunkiaer life-form system which was incomplete...
Epiphytes are plants which grow on other plants.
Aerophytes can also grow on other plants, but it's also possible that
they grow on electric wires, stones (like litiphytic lichens) and so
on. A used definition of aerophytes is: plants with perennating buds
above ground surface with an atrophic system (not fixed to soil). Most
of the aerophytes are perennial herbaceous.


--
Stinus

First of all, forgive me my bad English because I'm flemish... BRBR

No problem. Your English is better than my Flemish.
;-)

Regardless of your definition, Platycerium is an epiphyte. In nature it grows
on palm trees. Taxonomically it's a fern.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"A tree never hits an automobile except in self defense." - Woody Allen

I don't know the flower (at university they teach a lot about classification systems but pityful we don't learn to recognize plants and flowers (we do learn about trees in the course dendrology) ), so it's perfectly possible that this plant is an epiphyte. I just wanted to give the definitions like I've seen them in my courses because there was some misunderstanding...

Iris Cohen Wrote:
First of all, forgive me my bad English because I'm flemish... BRBR

No problem. Your English is better than my Flemish.
;-)

Regardless of your definition, Platycerium is an epiphyte. In nature it
grows
on palm trees. Taxonomically it's a fern.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"A tree never hits an automobile except in self defense." - Woody Allen

I don't know the flower (at university they teach a lot about
classification systems but pityful we don't learn to recognize plants
and flowers (we do learn about trees in the course dendrology) ), so
it's perfectly possible that this plant is an epiphyte. I just wanted
to give the definitions like I've seen them in my courses because there
was some misunderstanding...


--
Stinus

"Peter Jason" wrote in
:


"Niels Vorgaard Christensen" wrote in
message ...
Hi.

Would anybody be able to tell me what kind of plant this is:
http://ostenfeld.dk/~nielsvc/plante.jpg


Regards,
Niels


Why don't you replant the poor thing? The pot is too small.
It looks like one of those aerophytes that should be hanging on a
wall.



It is a staghorn fern, http://www.plantoftheweek.org/week117.shtml.
There is nothing wrong with the pot size for that species.

Sean

"Sean Houtman" wrote in message
news:1105514223.62bca0ebc0131fb818476cd70415f41a@t eranews...
"Peter Jason" wrote in
:


"Niels Vorgaard Christensen" wrote in
message ...
Hi.

Would anybody be able to tell me what kind of plant this is:
http://ostenfeld.dk/~nielsvc/plante.jpg


Regards,
Niels


Why don't you replant the poor thing? The pot is too small.
It looks like one of those aerophytes that should be hanging on a
wall.



It is a staghorn fern, http://www.plantoftheweek.org/week117.shtml.
There is nothing wrong with the pot size for that species.

Sean


Come to think of it, I saw one of these things (the plant, not the pot)
growing on the bark of a large tree at a friends place during Xmas dinner.

And it wasn't in a pot at all, but rather just hanging there - wild and
free.

Assuming your friend was in a warm climate, this is entirely possible.
As an epiphyte, being anchored to a tree trunk is entirely natural.

Assuming can get you into nothing but trouble.

Not all epiphytes are found in warm climates but all are found growing on
trees (by definition).

There are epiphytic ferns, mosses and lichen found in arctic pine forests.


"aggiecon" wrote in message
oups.com...
Assuming your friend was in a warm climate, this is entirely possible.
As an epiphyte, being anchored to a tree trunk is entirely natural.