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Old 13-12-2004, 11:30 AM
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In article , Goomba38 wrote:
grooler wrote:
prune juice works pretty good for constipation but it's too sweet and
upsets my stomach and makes me feel kinda nauseous.

is there something natural that's just as effective and not sweet or
not as sweet?


Apple Juice. Not apple sauce because it contains
the peel (which contains pectin, a major ingredient
in Pepto Bismol) but the juice works well for some.


This thread reminded me of a time during my primary school days when
one of the younger blokes decided the sticky black pulp around the
seeds of what we called "cascara bean" [actually _Cassia fistula_, the
Golden Shower tree] was edible. (Maybe some irresponsible older boy
told him it was.)

Anyway, he ate a fair bit of the goop from a bean during "little
lunch", and spent most of the rest of the day sitting on the loo!

The name "purging cassia" is probably pretty appropriate! :-)
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Cassia_fistula.html

Cheers, Phred.

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Old 13-12-2004, 02:41 PM
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In article , Phred wrote:
one of the younger blokes decided the sticky black pulp around the
seeds of what we called "cascara bean" [actually _Cassia fistula_, the
Golden Shower tree] was edible.


Oh dear. "Liquid cascara" (a tincture, presumably) was a well known
laxative in Britain some years ago.

Roger

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Old 14-12-2004, 10:35 AM
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In article , wrote:
In article , Phred wrote:
one of the younger blokes decided the sticky black pulp around the
seeds of what we called "cascara bean" [actually _Cassia fistula_, the
Golden Shower tree] was edible.


Oh dear. "Liquid cascara" (a tincture, presumably) was a well known
laxative in Britain some years ago.


I wonder if that was the "cascara" referred to he
http://www.wholehealthmd.com/refshel...,1525,10013,00.
html

quoting from Google
What Is It? Cascara sagrada is a natural laxative made from the
reddish-brown bark of a tree (Rhamnus purshiana) native to the Pacific
Northwest.
/quoting
[ It seems to be _Frangula purshiana_ now according to the ARS-GRIN
Phytochemical and Ethnobotanical Databases. See:
http://sun.ars-grin.gov:8080/npgspub...duke/plantdisp.
xsql?taxon=2217 ]

You will get lots of hits to a similar product if you google for:
cascara laxative

There don't seem to be similar commercial products from the _Cassia_
that I noticed, though the page I previously mentioned
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Cassia_fistula.html
lists a lot of applications under "Folk Medicine".

Cheers, Phred.

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Old 14-12-2004, 11:17 AM
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In article , Phred wrote:
I wonder if that was the "cascara" referred to he
http://www.wholehealthmd.com/refshel...,1525,10013,00.
html


Most likely. An old materia medica I have refers to "Extractum Cascara
Sagrada Liquidum".

It also lists "Cassiae Pulpa", made from the pulp in the pods of Cassia
fistula, "The Purging Cassia".

Either will give you a good run for your money, by the looks of it. 8-)

Roger

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Old 14-12-2004, 05:01 PM
 
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Phred wrote:

There don't seem to be similar commercial products from the _Cassia_
that I noticed, though the page I previously mentioned
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Cassia_fistula.html
lists a lot of applications under "Folk Medicine".


There's also senna:

sen-na n. 1. Any of various plants of the genus Cassia, having compound
leaves and usually yellow flowers. 2. The dried leaves of C. angustifolia
or C. acutifolia, used medicinally as a cathartic.[NLat. Ar. sana']

According to some elderly (and not so elderly) friends, it was a common
ingredient in the "spring tonics" inflicted upon them by their well-meaning
mothers. Senna "pods" are used as well.

Although most Cassia spp are tropical, C. marilandica ranges well up into the
temperate zone in the eastern US, and is or was used for the same purpose,
although it's mostly grown as an ornamental now.

Btw, use of purgatives is a Bad Idea. Your guts get lazy and you end up
needing higher and higher doses. If a diet high in fiber (whole grain and
vegetables -- brown rice is especially effective) and plenty of water
doesn't work, you need to see a doctor. And it isn't necessary to defecate
every day to be healthy.


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Old 14-12-2004, 05:02 PM
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Old 14-12-2004, 05:21 PM
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In article ,
Phred wrote:

There don't seem to be similar commercial products from the _Cassia_
that I noticed, though the page I previously mentioned
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Cassia_fistula.html
lists a lot of applications under "Folk Medicine".


There's also senna:


My first thought on seeing 'cascara' was "Castoria", the laxative we loved
as kids because it tasted like rootbeer. Googling "Castoria" revealed that
it was in fact senna rather than cassia that was the active ingredient.
Haven't seen it in years so I was surprised to see that Fletcher's Castoria
is still on the market.

Gabby


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Old 14-12-2004, 05:25 PM
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Old 14-12-2004, 08:11 PM
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In article , wrote:
Senna "pods" are used as well.


Indeed. They used to be popular in Britain, too.

There's now a commercial preparation called Senokot based on them.

Roger

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Old 15-12-2004, 03:16 AM
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Cereus's posts work for me!


"Phred" wrote in message
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In article , Goomba38

wrote:
grooler wrote:
prune juice works pretty good for constipation but it's too sweet and
upsets my stomach and makes me feel kinda nauseous.

is there something natural that's just as effective and not sweet or
not as sweet?


Apple Juice. Not apple sauce because it contains
the peel (which contains pectin, a major ingredient
in Pepto Bismol) but the juice works well for some.


This thread reminded me of a time during my primary school days when
one of the younger blokes decided the sticky black pulp around the
seeds of what we called "cascara bean" [actually _Cassia fistula_, the
Golden Shower tree] was edible. (Maybe some irresponsible older boy
told him it was.)

Anyway, he ate a fair bit of the goop from a bean during "little
lunch", and spent most of the rest of the day sitting on the loo!

The name "purging cassia" is probably pretty appropriate! :-)
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Cassia_fistula.html

Cheers, Phred.

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Peter Jacksoff uses prune juice to stir up the fecal matter he has passing
for a brain.


"Peter Jason" wrote in message
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Cereus's posts work for me!


"Phred" wrote in message
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In article , Goomba38

wrote:
grooler wrote:
prune juice works pretty good for constipation but it's too sweet and
upsets my stomach and makes me feel kinda nauseous.

is there something natural that's just as effective and not sweet or
not as sweet?

Apple Juice. Not apple sauce because it contains
the peel (which contains pectin, a major ingredient
in Pepto Bismol) but the juice works well for some.


This thread reminded me of a time during my primary school days when
one of the younger blokes decided the sticky black pulp around the
seeds of what we called "cascara bean" [actually _Cassia fistula_, the
Golden Shower tree] was edible. (Maybe some irresponsible older boy
told him it was.)

Anyway, he ate a fair bit of the goop from a bean during "little
lunch", and spent most of the rest of the day sitting on the loo!

The name "purging cassia" is probably pretty appropriate! :-)
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Cassia_fistula.html

Cheers, Phred.

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LID





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Don't knock it; it's good to useful.



"Cereus-validus..." wrote in message
. com...
Peter Jacksoff uses prune juice to stir up the fecal matter he has passing
for a brain.


"Peter Jason" wrote in message
...
Cereus's posts work for me!


"Phred" wrote in message
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In article , Goomba38

wrote:
grooler wrote:
prune juice works pretty good for constipation but it's too sweet

and
upsets my stomach and makes me feel kinda nauseous.

is there something natural that's just as effective and not sweet or
not as sweet?

Apple Juice. Not apple sauce because it contains
the peel (which contains pectin, a major ingredient
in Pepto Bismol) but the juice works well for some.

This thread reminded me of a time during my primary school days when
one of the younger blokes decided the sticky black pulp around the
seeds of what we called "cascara bean" [actually _Cassia fistula_, the
Golden Shower tree] was edible. (Maybe some irresponsible older boy
told him it was.)

Anyway, he ate a fair bit of the goop from a bean during "little
lunch", and spent most of the rest of the day sitting on the loo!

The name "purging cassia" is probably pretty appropriate! :-)
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Cassia_fistula.html

Cheers, Phred.

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The only thing you would be useful as is a speed bump!!!

Or maybe a kangaroo scratching post or a wombat teething toy!!!


"Peter Jason" wrote in message
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Don't knock it; it's good to useful.



"Cereus-validus..." wrote in message
. com...
Peter Jacksoff uses prune juice to stir up the fecal matter he has
passing
for a brain.


"Peter Jason" wrote in message
...
Cereus's posts work for me!


"Phred" wrote in message
...
In article , Goomba38
wrote:
grooler wrote:
prune juice works pretty good for constipation but it's too sweet

and
upsets my stomach and makes me feel kinda nauseous.

is there something natural that's just as effective and not sweet
or
not as sweet?

Apple Juice. Not apple sauce because it contains
the peel (which contains pectin, a major ingredient
in Pepto Bismol) but the juice works well for some.

This thread reminded me of a time during my primary school days when
one of the younger blokes decided the sticky black pulp around the
seeds of what we called "cascara bean" [actually _Cassia fistula_, the
Golden Shower tree] was edible. (Maybe some irresponsible older boy
told him it was.)

Anyway, he ate a fair bit of the goop from a bean during "little
lunch", and spent most of the rest of the day sitting on the loo!

The name "purging cassia" is probably pretty appropriate! :-)
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Cassia_fistula.html

Cheers, Phred.

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I see Cereus as a cat-scratching post, or buried head first as a gate post.
Here puss puss!



"Cereus-validus..." wrote in message
...
The only thing you would be useful as is a speed bump!!!

Or maybe a kangaroo scratching post or a wombat teething toy!!!


"Peter Jason" wrote in message
...
Don't knock it; it's good to useful.



"Cereus-validus..." wrote in message
. com...
Peter Jacksoff uses prune juice to stir up the fecal matter he has
passing
for a brain.


"Peter Jason" wrote in message
...
Cereus's posts work for me!


"Phred" wrote in message
...
In article , Goomba38
wrote:
grooler wrote:
prune juice works pretty good for constipation but it's too sweet

and
upsets my stomach and makes me feel kinda nauseous.

is there something natural that's just as effective and not sweet
or
not as sweet?

Apple Juice. Not apple sauce because it contains
the peel (which contains pectin, a major ingredient
in Pepto Bismol) but the juice works well for some.

This thread reminded me of a time during my primary school days when
one of the younger blokes decided the sticky black pulp around the
seeds of what we called "cascara bean" [actually _Cassia fistula_,

the
Golden Shower tree] was edible. (Maybe some irresponsible older boy
told him it was.)

Anyway, he ate a fair bit of the goop from a bean during "little
lunch", and spent most of the rest of the day sitting on the loo!

The name "purging cassia" is probably pretty appropriate! :-)
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Cassia_fistula.html

Cheers, Phred.

--
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