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Superkitt 23-03-2003 07:44 PM

Pond Ice - Fish could have died
 
I have posted before about a pond that I have built that was a little
deeper then 36inches, no fish, I wanted to try and dry run over the summer
and winter without fish to see how things would go.

Well, I'm moving and now I have to take the pond apart and fill in back in.

But here is the problem, the pond ice went right to the bottom, all 36+
inches.

I'm not sure even 4ft would have solved the problem and that would have
been the desired depth of my area (Toronto, Ontario, Canada)

I will be building another pond at the new house, a little bigger, maybe
300 Gal, this was a small 150Gal, but I'm not sure I want to go 4ft deep,
so if I put a couple fish in the pond, I will have to remove them come
winter.

What can I put them in, if I were to put them in the garage, the water
would get below 50F, but would not freeze I'm sure.

What kind and how large of a container would I need for the 2 koi I
currently have which are in my indoor fish tank at 6.5inches, I would have
to say come next winter they will be atleast 12 inches, too large for my
current fish tank.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Joel


Priscilla McCullough 23-03-2003 08:44 PM

Pond Ice - Fish could have died
 
For any small fish I would put them in a little kids pool. You know those
hard plastic round pools you can buy at Walmart for kids. If your koi aren't
to big they might do alright in one for now, but they do grow fast.
I know one girl had to move 3 koi's of her's and she looked around and got a
big bathtub from a dump, cleanned it good and put hers in there for a month
until she got a new pond dug at her new house.
Priss
"Superkitt" wrote in message
.104...
I have posted before about a pond that I have built that was a little
deeper then 36inches, no fish, I wanted to try and dry run over the summer
and winter without fish to see how things would go.

Well, I'm moving and now I have to take the pond apart and fill in back

in.

But here is the problem, the pond ice went right to the bottom, all 36+
inches.

I'm not sure even 4ft would have solved the problem and that would have
been the desired depth of my area (Toronto, Ontario, Canada)

I will be building another pond at the new house, a little bigger, maybe
300 Gal, this was a small 150Gal, but I'm not sure I want to go 4ft deep,
so if I put a couple fish in the pond, I will have to remove them come
winter.

What can I put them in, if I were to put them in the garage, the water
would get below 50F, but would not freeze I'm sure.

What kind and how large of a container would I need for the 2 koi I
currently have which are in my indoor fish tank at 6.5inches, I would have
to say come next winter they will be atleast 12 inches, too large for my
current fish tank.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Joel




Don Falconer 30-03-2003 04:56 AM

Pond Ice - Fish could have died
 
Priscilla,

I'm in Whitby. Have about a 250 gal x 26" deep pond. I installed an aquarium
air pump in the fall with hose fixed to bubble (no airstone) at about 8"deep
near one end of the pond. It kept an opening all winter - I could hear the
air bubbling through water even during our severe cold spells. I don't know
how thick the ice got but I assume no deeper than 8" at the end with the
bubbler as there was water there. Totally thawed now and all looks normal.
Anxious to see if my two koi come out of "hibernation" - my first winter
too.
Don


"Priscilla McCullough" wrote in message
...
For any small fish I would put them in a little kids pool. You know those
hard plastic round pools you can buy at Walmart for kids. If your koi

aren't
to big they might do alright in one for now, but they do grow fast.
I know one girl had to move 3 koi's of her's and she looked around and got

a
big bathtub from a dump, cleanned it good and put hers in there for a

month
until she got a new pond dug at her new house.
Priss
"Superkitt" wrote in message
.104...
I have posted before about a pond that I have built that was a little
deeper then 36inches, no fish, I wanted to try and dry run over the

summer
and winter without fish to see how things would go.

Well, I'm moving and now I have to take the pond apart and fill in back

in.

But here is the problem, the pond ice went right to the bottom, all 36+
inches.

I'm not sure even 4ft would have solved the problem and that would have
been the desired depth of my area (Toronto, Ontario, Canada)

I will be building another pond at the new house, a little bigger, maybe
300 Gal, this was a small 150Gal, but I'm not sure I want to go 4ft

deep,
so if I put a couple fish in the pond, I will have to remove them come
winter.

What can I put them in, if I were to put them in the garage, the water
would get below 50F, but would not freeze I'm sure.

What kind and how large of a container would I need for the 2 koi I
currently have which are in my indoor fish tank at 6.5inches, I would

have
to say come next winter they will be atleast 12 inches, too large for my
current fish tank.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Joel






Sharon 02-04-2003 09:32 PM

Pond Ice - Fish could have died
 
Don
I too am in Whitby. My pond is about 40" deep and this winter even
with a floating heater and air stones my pond managed to form ice on
the surface during those nasty cold spells, sometimes it was frozen
over for days at a time, but alas all is melted now and seems like all
my fish survived, now I will have to wait to see how the frogs did
when they dig themselves out of the plants.

Sharon







On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 03:47:17 GMT, "Don Falconer"
wrote:

Priscilla,

I'm in Whitby. Have about a 250 gal x 26" deep pond. I installed an aquarium
air pump in the fall with hose fixed to bubble (no airstone) at about 8"deep
near one end of the pond. It kept an opening all winter - I could hear the
air bubbling through water even during our severe cold spells. I don't know
how thick the ice got but I assume no deeper than 8" at the end with the
bubbler as there was water there. Totally thawed now and all looks normal.
Anxious to see if my two koi come out of "hibernation" - my first winter
too.
Don


"Priscilla McCullough" wrote in message
...
For any small fish I would put them in a little kids pool. You know those
hard plastic round pools you can buy at Walmart for kids. If your koi

aren't
to big they might do alright in one for now, but they do grow fast.
I know one girl had to move 3 koi's of her's and she looked around and got

a
big bathtub from a dump, cleanned it good and put hers in there for a

month
until she got a new pond dug at her new house.
Priss
"Superkitt" wrote in message
.104...
I have posted before about a pond that I have built that was a little
deeper then 36inches, no fish, I wanted to try and dry run over the

summer
and winter without fish to see how things would go.

Well, I'm moving and now I have to take the pond apart and fill in back

in.

But here is the problem, the pond ice went right to the bottom, all 36+
inches.

I'm not sure even 4ft would have solved the problem and that would have
been the desired depth of my area (Toronto, Ontario, Canada)

I will be building another pond at the new house, a little bigger, maybe
300 Gal, this was a small 150Gal, but I'm not sure I want to go 4ft

deep,
so if I put a couple fish in the pond, I will have to remove them come
winter.

What can I put them in, if I were to put them in the garage, the water
would get below 50F, but would not freeze I'm sure.

What kind and how large of a container would I need for the 2 koi I
currently have which are in my indoor fish tank at 6.5inches, I would

have
to say come next winter they will be atleast 12 inches, too large for my
current fish tank.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Joel







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