Liner showing problem on large boulders
I am currently building a pond (still digging). I have large boulders that
go 2 ft below water and come 4 ft out of the water. Theyre about 10 ton or so. I would like to have the liner below the water line and glue it or silicone it to the large boulders making it waterproof. I really dont want to show the liner above the water and stacking stones on the liner and boulder would be very difficult since it's almost vertical. Has anyone come across this dilemma?? I see many pond pictures on the internet with similar setups but they dont tell how the liner is hidden. |
Liner showing problem on large boulders
IF you can get a perfect seal of the liner to the boulder then you should be
able to have the liner anywhere below the boulder that you can fit it. The problem is getting the perfect seal.... I take it you don't have the equipment to put the boulders in on top of the liner...... DK "John Arruda" wrote in message news:mjkVa.26246$o54.10038@lakeread05... I am currently building a pond (still digging). I have large boulders that go 2 ft below water and come 4 ft out of the water. Theyre about 10 ton or so. I would like to have the liner below the water line and glue it or silicone it to the large boulders making it waterproof. I really dont want to show the liner above the water and stacking stones on the liner and boulder would be very difficult since it's almost vertical. Has anyone come across this dilemma?? I see many pond pictures on the internet with similar setups but they dont tell how the liner is hidden. |
Liner showing problem on large boulders
It would be very tough since the boulder is almost vertical.
"dkat" wrote in message .net... IF you can get a perfect seal of the liner to the boulder then you should be able to have the liner anywhere below the boulder that you can fit it. The problem is getting the perfect seal.... I take it you don't have the equipment to put the boulders in on top of the liner...... DK "John Arruda" wrote in message news:mjkVa.26246$o54.10038@lakeread05... I am currently building a pond (still digging). I have large boulders that go 2 ft below water and come 4 ft out of the water. Theyre about 10 ton or so. I would like to have the liner below the water line and glue it or silicone it to the large boulders making it waterproof. I really dont want to show the liner above the water and stacking stones on the liner and boulder would be very difficult since it's almost vertical. Has anyone come across this dilemma?? I see many pond pictures on the internet with similar setups but they dont tell how the liner is hidden. |
Liner showing problem on large boulders
Another thought.... You can make ponds by using clay as your "liner". I do
not know how large your pond is going to be (sounds large if it is going to have the boulders of this sized not overwhelm it..) or how costly this would be ... http://www.eman-rese.ca/partners/ado...ck/part27.html Clay Ponds If your soil particle size is small (sandy, silty soils) with a clay content of at least 10% then soil compaction is the easiest way of sealing the bottom of your pond. Alternatively, soils with a clay content of more than 20% can be imported for compaction. Alternatively, bentonite clay can be purchased. Although clay lined ponds are the most natural looking, clay is not the best choice of impermeable barriers for backyard ponds. The clay itself is very heavy and can leak if not installed correctly. Bentonite clay is applied at the rate of 1 to 3 pounds per square foot, tilled in, and then rolled to compact the particles. Use a sprinkler to wet the bentonite before compacting. Bentonite swells when wet but if complete drying occurs bentonite shrinks and may compromise the seal. Add water immediately, otherwise the clay will dry out and crack. If you empty the pool it must not be allowed to dry out. A mixture of sand and earth is placed on top to protect the water-resistant clay liner from mechanical damage. Geotextile clay liner is a product that sandwiches bentonite clay between two layers of felt. The felt is sewn so that the clay cannot move and collect anywhere along the width or length of the roll. Geotextile clay liners are generally used for large farm ponds, and are expensive. Consult your bentonite supplier for alternative methods of application (including adding bags of clay directly to the pond to achieve a water barrier as the clay particles settle out on the pond bottom). "John Arruda" wrote in message news:_aDVa.27391$o54.23709@lakeread05... It would be very tough since the boulder is almost vertical. "dkat" wrote in message .net... IF you can get a perfect seal of the liner to the boulder then you should be able to have the liner anywhere below the boulder that you can fit it. The problem is getting the perfect seal.... I take it you don't have the equipment to put the boulders in on top of the liner...... DK "John Arruda" wrote in message news:mjkVa.26246$o54.10038@lakeread05... I am currently building a pond (still digging). I have large boulders that go 2 ft below water and come 4 ft out of the water. Theyre about 10 ton or so. I would like to have the liner below the water line and glue it or silicone it to the large boulders making it waterproof. I really dont want to show the liner above the water and stacking stones on the liner and boulder would be very difficult since it's almost vertical. Has anyone come across this dilemma?? I see many pond pictures on the internet with similar setups but they dont tell how the liner is hidden. |
Liner showing problem on large boulders
"John Arruda" wrote:
Hello John JA I am currently building a pond (still digging). I have large JA boulders that go 2 ft below water and come 4 ft out of the JA water. Theyre about 10 ton or so. I would like to have the JA liner below the water line and glue it or silicone it to the JA large boulders making it waterproof. I really dont want to JA show the liner above the water and stacking stones on the JA liner and boulder would be very difficult since it's almost JA vertical. Has anyone come across this dilemma?? I see many JA pond pictures on the internet with similar setups but they JA dont tell how the liner is hidden. Ick. I'm pretty sure that your bond will be very hard to do. Maybe, just maybe, hot tar painted around the granite in a 10" or so strip would allow you to adhere the butyl to, but any movement in the liner (and they do move) is going to push that joint very hard. Other such effects, I think, are done by fitting the boulder after it's been lined, or using clay puddling which will make a fairly good seal as it expands. Concrete is a bugger to seal to stones effectively, though it can be done; but not well enough to trust completely. (Use PVA in the mix, pva on the granite, two coats of pva once concrete has set, and then brush all over with cement slurry (also with pva). I've done this and it works, but only in small ponds.) -- Simon Avery, Dartmoor, UK Ý http://www.digdilem.org/ |
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