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Can someone tell me if i'll be ok building a raised pond out of railway sleepers, i'm wanting the pond to be 10' x 7' x3'5". anyone got any suggestions on this, i'll be keeping just a few goldish in the pond nothing fancy.
PLEASE ADVISE.

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Can someone tell me if i'll be ok building a raised pond out of railway
sleepers, i'm wanting the pond to be 10' x 7' x3'5". anyone got any
suggestions on this, i'll be keeping just a few goldish in the pond
nothing fancy.
PLEASE ADVISE.


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You're doing what I wished I'd done (size wise)
However, I was told by my other half to scale it down a bit.

You'll be OK with the sleepers providing you use angle brackets at the
corners, brackets along the length and some large nails.

The sleepers must also be lined with heavy poly.
If you want you can have a look at our sleeper effort
www.katzsisters.com
I wish I'd used the full length of the sleepers tho' :-)

Peter


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"puddleduck" wrote in message
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Can someone tell me if i'll be ok building a raised pond out of railway
sleepers, i'm wanting the pond to be 10' x 7' x3'5". anyone got any
suggestions on this, i'll be keeping just a few goldish in the pond
nothing fancy.
PLEASE ADVISE.


Hi Puddle Duck

I've built a similar pond to your design, although making it 10 foot long
will be more awkward because sleepers are 8' long, so yours will need them
cut a lot (having done this by hand I recommend hiring a chain saw for this
purpose!!

there's pictures of my pond at
http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lostin1999/album

mine is however 8' X 5' X 4 foot deep (in the middle) with a 12-18 inch
planting shelf (18 " at ends 12" along sides)16" deep.. it was only built
a couple of months ago...

you will need to drill holes and put shafts down through the sleepers to
stop slippage due to water weight... are you putting the sleepers flat or
vertical? (flats easier but makes for a smaller pond and wider edge...

hope the pictures help inspire you

Lost


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"puddleduck" wrote in message
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Can someone tell me if i'll be ok building a raised pond out of railway
sleepers, i'm wanting the pond to be 10' x 7' x3'5". anyone got any
suggestions on this, i'll be keeping just a few goldish in the pond
nothing fancy.
PLEASE ADVISE.


Hi Puddle Duck

I've built a similar pond to your design, although making it 10 foot long
will be more awkward because sleepers are 8' long, so yours will need them
cut a lot (having done this by hand I recommend hiring a chain saw for this
purpose!!

there's pictures of my pond at
http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lostin1999/album

mine is however 8' X 5' X 4 foot deep (in the middle) with a 12-18 inch
planting shelf (18 " at ends 12" along sides)16" deep.. it was only built
a couple of months ago...

you will need to drill holes and put shafts down through the sleepers to
stop slippage due to water weight... are you putting the sleepers flat or
vertical? (flats easier but makes for a smaller pond and wider edge...

hope the pictures help inspire you

Lost


Thanks for replying to my msg the photos on both reply's helped a great deal, just one thing do i have to dig in the first sleeper or can i just put staight on to the muck. i'm thinking now of having 3' above ground and dig a 1' hole in the middle to make it a 4' deep pond. Also can i use reclaimed sleepers or have they to be new one's.
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Lostin1999 wrote:
*"puddleduck" wrote in
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Can someone tell me if i'll be ok building a raised pond out of

railway
sleepers, i'm wanting the pond to be 10' x 7' x3'5". anyone got

any
suggestions on this, i'll be keeping just a few goldish in the

pond
nothing fancy.
PLEASE ADVISE.


Hi Puddle Duck

I've built a similar pond to your design, although making it 10 foot
long
will be more awkward because sleepers are 8' long, so yours will need
them
cut a lot (having done this by hand I recommend hiring a chain saw
for this
purpose!!

there's pictures of my pond at
http://tinyurl.com/67dqc

mine is however 8' X 5' X 4 foot deep (in the middle) with a 12-18
inch
planting shelf (18 " at ends 12" along sides)16" deep.. it was only
built
a couple of months ago...

you will need to drill holes and put shafts down through the sleepers
to
stop slippage due to water weight... are you putting the sleepers
flat or
vertical? (flats easier but makes for a smaller pond and wider
edge...

hope the pictures help inspire you

Lost *



Thanks for replying to my msg the photos on both reply's helped a
great deal, just one thing do i have to dig in the first sleeper or
can i just put staight on to the muck. i'm thinking now of having 3'
above ground and dig a 1' hole in the middle to make it a 4' deep pond.
Also can i use reclaimed sleepers or have they to be new one's.

Hiya

Mine are "reclaimed" however its cheaper (or for me it would have been) to
use new ones.. I feel the reclaimed ones with the treatment they have had
will last a lot longer...

however getting neat "joins" isn't so easy.. (however on the outside that
creates a "rustic look") so on the inside I used expanding foam to fill up
holes and such so the liner was less likely to get pierced..

the only thing I would do differently if I was building mine now would be it
would have been square.. but that's because the extra size wouldn't have
changed any of the cost etc..

I've found a bonus to a raised pond is any children don't seem as likely too
fall in (although I never have unsupervised children in my garden (even my
own))

Lost




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i've decided to go with a 8'x8'x4'deep pond now will the sleepers be strong enough if i just put them on the ground then dig a hole 2'x2' deep in the middle then put my liner in or am i best digging in the first sleeper(i'm gonna be using new sleepers).
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Old 22-07-2004, 07:23 PM
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"puddleduck" wrote in message
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i've decided to go with a 8'x8'x4'deep pond now will the sleepers be
strong enough if i just put them on the ground then dig a hole 2'x2'
deep in the middle then put my liner in or am i best digging in the
first sleeper(i'm gonna be using new sleepers).


id only dig in to get level footings.. no more.. but i would brace the
sleapers with vertical rods (drill the sleapers and insert steel rods
through the sleapers) and steel bars.. (steel bars bent into an L shape on
the corners) also "brick stackŁ them (as in alternate the cornrs on each
layer...)

HTH

Lost


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Old 22-07-2004, 08:04 PM
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"puddleduck" wrote in message
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i've decided to go with a 8'x8'x4'deep pond now will the sleepers be
strong enough if i just put them on the ground then dig a hole 2'x2'
deep in the middle then put my liner in or am i best digging in the
first sleeper(i'm gonna be using new sleepers).

id only dig in to get level footings.. no more.. but i would brace the
sleapers with vertical rods (drill the sleapers and insert steel rods
through the sleapers) and steel bars.. (steel bars bent into an L shape on
the corners) also "brick stackŁ them (as in alternate the cornrs on each
layer...)

HTH

Lost


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"puddleduck" wrote in message
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Can someone tell me if i'll be ok building a raised pond out of railway
sleepers, i'm wanting the pond to be 10' x 7' x3'5". anyone got any
suggestions on this, i'll be keeping just a few goldish in the pond
nothing fancy.
PLEASE ADVISE.


Hi Puddle Duck

I've built a similar pond to your design, although making it 10 foot long
will be more awkward because sleepers are 8' long, so yours will need them
cut a lot (having done this by hand I recommend hiring a chain saw for this
purpose!!

there's pictures of my pond at
http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lostin1999/album

mine is however 8' X 5' X 4 foot deep (in the middle) with a 12-18 inch
planting shelf (18 " at ends 12" along sides)16" deep.. it was only built
a couple of months ago...

you will need to drill holes and put shafts down through the sleepers to
stop slippage due to water weight... are you putting the sleepers flat or
vertical? (flats easier but makes for a smaller pond and wider edge...

hope the pictures help inspire you

Lost


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here are some pictures of my raise pond - worked fine
"Lostin1999" wrote in message
...

"puddleduck" wrote in message
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Lostin1999 wrote:
*"puddleduck" wrote in
message
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Can someone tell me if i'll be ok building a raised pond out of
railway
sleepers, i'm wanting the pond to be 10' x 7' x3'5". anyone got
any
suggestions on this, i'll be keeping just a few goldish in the
pond
nothing fancy.
PLEASE ADVISE.


Hi Puddle Duck

I've built a similar pond to your design, although making it 10 foot
long
will be more awkward because sleepers are 8' long, so yours will need
them
cut a lot (having done this by hand I recommend hiring a chain saw
for this
purpose!!

there's pictures of my pond at
http://tinyurl.com/67dqc

mine is however 8' X 5' X 4 foot deep (in the middle) with a 12-18
inch
planting shelf (18 " at ends 12" along sides)16" deep.. it was only
built
a couple of months ago...

you will need to drill holes and put shafts down through the sleepers
to
stop slippage due to water weight... are you putting the sleepers
flat or
vertical? (flats easier but makes for a smaller pond and wider
edge...

hope the pictures help inspire you

Lost *




Thanks for replying to my msg the photos on both reply's helped a
great deal, just one thing do i have to dig in the first sleeper or
can i just put staight on to the muck. i'm thinking now of having 3'
above ground and dig a 1' hole in the middle to make it a 4' deep pond.
Also can i use reclaimed sleepers or have they to be new one's.

Hiya

Mine are "reclaimed" however its cheaper (or for me it would have been)

to
use new ones.. I feel the reclaimed ones with the treatment they have had
will last a lot longer...

however getting neat "joins" isn't so easy.. (however on the outside that
creates a "rustic look") so on the inside I used expanding foam to fill up
holes and such so the liner was less likely to get pierced..

the only thing I would do differently if I was building mine now would be

it
would have been square.. but that's because the extra size wouldn't have
changed any of the cost etc..

I've found a bonus to a raised pond is any children don't seem as likely

too
fall in (although I never have unsupervised children in my garden (even my
own))

Lost








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That really came out nice. I think you have inspired me to do another pond!

"sg" wrote in message
...
here are some pictures of my raise pond - worked fine
"Lostin1999" wrote in message
...

"puddleduck" wrote in

message
news

Lostin1999 wrote:
*"puddleduck" wrote in
message
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Can someone tell me if i'll be ok building a raised pond out of
railway
sleepers, i'm wanting the pond to be 10' x 7' x3'5". anyone got
any
suggestions on this, i'll be keeping just a few goldish in the
pond
nothing fancy.
PLEASE ADVISE.


Hi Puddle Duck

I've built a similar pond to your design, although making it 10 foot
long
will be more awkward because sleepers are 8' long, so yours will

need
them
cut a lot (having done this by hand I recommend hiring a chain saw
for this
purpose!!

there's pictures of my pond at
http://tinyurl.com/67dqc

mine is however 8' X 5' X 4 foot deep (in the middle) with a 12-18
inch
planting shelf (18 " at ends 12" along sides)16" deep.. it was

only
built
a couple of months ago...

you will need to drill holes and put shafts down through the

sleepers
to
stop slippage due to water weight... are you putting the sleepers
flat or
vertical? (flats easier but makes for a smaller pond and wider
edge...

hope the pictures help inspire you

Lost *



Thanks for replying to my msg the photos on both reply's helped a
great deal, just one thing do i have to dig in the first sleeper or
can i just put staight on to the muck. i'm thinking now of having 3'
above ground and dig a 1' hole in the middle to make it a 4' deep

pond.
Also can i use reclaimed sleepers or have they to be new one's.

Hiya

Mine are "reclaimed" however its cheaper (or for me it would have been)

to
use new ones.. I feel the reclaimed ones with the treatment they have

had
will last a lot longer...

however getting neat "joins" isn't so easy.. (however on the outside

that
creates a "rustic look") so on the inside I used expanding foam to fill

up
holes and such so the liner was less likely to get pierced..

the only thing I would do differently if I was building mine now would

be
it
would have been square.. but that's because the extra size wouldn't

have
changed any of the cost etc..

I've found a bonus to a raised pond is any children don't seem as likely

too
fall in (although I never have unsupervised children in my garden (even

my
own))

Lost







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Hi,
May I intrude and add my suggestion.
\i have built a raised pond using rock faced gravel boards and concrete
posts cut down with angle grinder.
Two boards will give approximately 2' depth with 1 or 2 foot dug out of
ground, the top of the posts were a bit rough after cutting so cemented on
top a few concrete animals, which the youngsters love.
The depth is only limited to how high you can lift the concrete boards.
Best keep the pond to full length of gravel boards cause they are a pain to
cut down.
Regards
Grodon UK
"sg" wrote in message
...
here are some pictures of my raise pond - worked fine
"Lostin1999" wrote in message
...

"puddleduck" wrote in

message
news

Lostin1999 wrote:
*"puddleduck" wrote in
message
news
Can someone tell me if i'll be ok building a raised pond out of
railway
sleepers, i'm wanting the pond to be 10' x 7' x3'5". anyone got
any
suggestions on this, i'll be keeping just a few goldish in the
pond
nothing fancy.
PLEASE ADVISE.


Hi Puddle Duck

I've built a similar pond to your design, although making it 10 foot
long
will be more awkward because sleepers are 8' long, so yours will

need
them
cut a lot (having done this by hand I recommend hiring a chain saw
for this
purpose!!

there's pictures of my pond at
http://tinyurl.com/67dqc

mine is however 8' X 5' X 4 foot deep (in the middle) with a 12-18
inch
planting shelf (18 " at ends 12" along sides)16" deep.. it was

only
built
a couple of months ago...

you will need to drill holes and put shafts down through the

sleepers
to
stop slippage due to water weight... are you putting the sleepers
flat or
vertical? (flats easier but makes for a smaller pond and wider
edge...

hope the pictures help inspire you

Lost *



Thanks for replying to my msg the photos on both reply's helped a
great deal, just one thing do i have to dig in the first sleeper or
can i just put staight on to the muck. i'm thinking now of having 3'
above ground and dig a 1' hole in the middle to make it a 4' deep

pond.
Also can i use reclaimed sleepers or have they to be new one's.

Hiya

Mine are "reclaimed" however its cheaper (or for me it would have been)

to
use new ones.. I feel the reclaimed ones with the treatment they have

had
will last a lot longer...

however getting neat "joins" isn't so easy.. (however on the outside

that
creates a "rustic look") so on the inside I used expanding foam to fill

up
holes and such so the liner was less likely to get pierced..

the only thing I would do differently if I was building mine now would

be
it
would have been square.. but that's because the extra size wouldn't

have
changed any of the cost etc..

I've found a bonus to a raised pond is any children don't seem as likely

too
fall in (although I never have unsupervised children in my garden (even

my
own))

Lost







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Hi,
May I intrude and add my suggestion.
\i have built a raised pond using rock faced gravel boards and concrete
posts cut down with angle grinder.
Two boards will give approximately 2' depth with 1 or 2 foot dug out of
ground, the top of the posts were a bit rough after cutting so cemented on
top a few concrete animals, which the youngsters love.
The depth is only limited to how high you can lift the concrete boards.
Best keep the pond to full length of gravel boards cause they are a pain to
cut down.
Regards
Grodon UK
"sg" wrote in message
...
here are some pictures of my raise pond - worked fine
"Lostin1999" wrote in message
...

"puddleduck" wrote in

message
news

Lostin1999 wrote:
*"puddleduck" wrote in
message
news
Can someone tell me if i'll be ok building a raised pond out of
railway
sleepers, i'm wanting the pond to be 10' x 7' x3'5". anyone got
any
suggestions on this, i'll be keeping just a few goldish in the
pond
nothing fancy.
PLEASE ADVISE.


Hi Puddle Duck

I've built a similar pond to your design, although making it 10 foot
long
will be more awkward because sleepers are 8' long, so yours will

need
them
cut a lot (having done this by hand I recommend hiring a chain saw
for this
purpose!!

there's pictures of my pond at
http://tinyurl.com/67dqc

mine is however 8' X 5' X 4 foot deep (in the middle) with a 12-18
inch
planting shelf (18 " at ends 12" along sides)16" deep.. it was

only
built
a couple of months ago...

you will need to drill holes and put shafts down through the

sleepers
to
stop slippage due to water weight... are you putting the sleepers
flat or
vertical? (flats easier but makes for a smaller pond and wider
edge...

hope the pictures help inspire you

Lost *



Thanks for replying to my msg the photos on both reply's helped a
great deal, just one thing do i have to dig in the first sleeper or
can i just put staight on to the muck. i'm thinking now of having 3'
above ground and dig a 1' hole in the middle to make it a 4' deep

pond.
Also can i use reclaimed sleepers or have they to be new one's.

Hiya

Mine are "reclaimed" however its cheaper (or for me it would have been)

to
use new ones.. I feel the reclaimed ones with the treatment they have

had
will last a lot longer...

however getting neat "joins" isn't so easy.. (however on the outside

that
creates a "rustic look") so on the inside I used expanding foam to fill

up
holes and such so the liner was less likely to get pierced..

the only thing I would do differently if I was building mine now would

be
it
would have been square.. but that's because the extra size wouldn't

have
changed any of the cost etc..

I've found a bonus to a raised pond is any children don't seem as likely

too
fall in (although I never have unsupervised children in my garden (even

my
own))

Lost









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