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drsolo 28-03-2007 12:49 AM

sitting out by the pond
 
well we had a couple 80o days up here in the frozen tundra, now we are back
to the 50's. but I got to sit by the pond at night, watch the fish side lit
by the light and slowly lazily swim by. the pond was pea soup green and I
put the bucket filter in and it cleared up pretty fast, 2 days. First day I
used polyester batting, had to pull that out and dump it as it was loaded,
next day I put in netting, stiffer filter material and I can tell the stuff
is in there I am going to have to drag it in to rinse it off. I am still
waiting on the 100' of 3/4 tubing to try to make a cold water filter. the
ammonia level is there. I think "they" are spawning cause I have seen some
of that "salmon up the waterfall" nonsense and "shimmy release the eggs"
replicated in the area where the water from the pump is pouring down into
the pond. They are begging for food so I been giving them the daphnia and
krill. they go nuts. everyone looks good and swimming well, the pH seems to
be below 7. will need a water change soon I guess. the plastic is off the
pond, the heater is off so the temp may drop from the 68oF it was. it was a
nice while it lasted. I really do have to get a greenhouse up over this so
I can extend my season with the pond. Ingrid


Nick Cramer 28-03-2007 01:26 AM

sitting out by the pond
 
"drsolo" wrote:
well we had a couple 80o days up here in the frozen tundra, now we are
back to the 50's. but I got to sit by the pond at night, watch the fish
side lit by the light and slowly lazily swim by. [ . . . ]


Sitting by the pond, watching the fish, in the evening with a good cigar
and a nice brandy is great. I miss my fish, but still enjoy sitting outside
in the evening with a a good friend, a good cigar and a nice brandy. Those
late departed fish will contribute to some wonderful guavas this year.
sigh

--
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Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! !
~Semper Fi~


~ jan[_2_] 28-03-2007 07:05 AM

sitting out by the pond
 
This weekend, I started up the big pump and opened the 2nd chamber on the
filter. The water fall is going, but both the stream and upper pond are
still screened to catch the stuff falling from the big maple (that is soon
to be removed, but not soon enough). The lower pond, w/skimmer, the screen
is off. Fish look good, water looks good, though I should do some water
checks this weekend. Motion sprinkler & baby monitor turned on. Water temp
was 52F has fallen to 49.8, so not bad after one 32F night. Hopefully temps
will stay up, suppose to be more seasonable the rest of the week. ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State


Phyllis and Jim 28-03-2007 07:09 AM

sitting out by the pond
 
Hi Nick! Nice to have you here.

Jim


Nick Cramer 28-03-2007 11:43 AM

sitting out by the pond
 
"Phyllis and Jim" wrote:
Hi Nick! Nice to have you here.


Thanks Jim. It's kinda sad for me, with my fish having died. I dunno what
to do to keep my pond from turning into a mosquito farm..

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!

Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! !
~Semper Fi~


Henry & Carolyn 28-03-2007 02:38 PM

sitting out by the pond
 
What exactly is a "bucket" filter? Do you just put a bucket with filter
material in the pond, or is there a pump attached to it?

"drsolo" wrote in message
.com...
put the bucket filter in and it cleared up pretty fast, 2 days. First day
I
used polyester batting, had to pull that out and dump it as it was loaded,
next day I put in netting, stiffer filter material and I can tell the
stuff
is in there I am going to have to drag it in to rinse it off. I am still
waiting on the 100' of 3/4 tubing to try to make a cold water filter.



Phyllis and Jim 28-03-2007 03:47 PM

sitting out by the pond
 
Nick,

I forgot what happened to your fish.

Any chance of putting mosquito fish in? That is what we did in our
farm pond...to prevent mosquitos until we get our bluegills in.

Jim


Sitting by the pond, watching the fish, in the evening with a good cigar
and a nice brandy is great. I miss my fish, but still enjoy sitting outside
in the evening with a a good friend, a good cigar and a nice brandy. Those
late departed fish will contribute to some wonderful guavas this year.
sigh



Reel McKoi 28-03-2007 04:22 PM

sitting out by the pond
 

"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
...
"Phyllis and Jim" wrote:
Hi Nick! Nice to have you here.


Thanks Jim. It's kinda sad for me, with my fish having died. I dunno what
to do to keep my pond from turning into a mosquito farm..

==============================
A few dozen inexpensive rosy reds or goldfish should take care of that
problem.
--

RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
ISP: Hughes.net
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö


Reel McKoi 28-03-2007 04:36 PM

sitting out by the pond
 

"Henry & Carolyn" wrote in message
...
What exactly is a "bucket" filter? Do you just put a bucket with filter
material in the pond, or is there a pump attached to it?

======================
Our bucket filters are made in a few minutes. I wrap plastic window screen
around the pump and set in on the bottom of the bucket. Then it's covered
with assorted filtering material held down by a few rocks. The whole thing
is set down into the water. Unfortunately with the spring algae they need
rinsing every few days. The water is pumped up into large biological
filters with more filtering material. They seldom need cleaning.
--

RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
ISP: Hughes.net
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö


Kurt[_2_] 28-03-2007 06:55 PM

sitting out by the pond
 
In article ,
"Reel McKoi" wrote:

"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
...
"Phyllis and Jim" wrote:
Hi Nick! Nice to have you here.


Thanks Jim. It's kinda sad for me, with my fish having died. I dunno what
to do to keep my pond from turning into a mosquito farm..

==============================
A few dozen inexpensive rosy reds or goldfish should take care of that
problem.


My experience is that goldfish don't want to eat mosquito larvae if
there is anything else to eat. Don't know what area you live in but our
county provides free mosquitofish for anyone who asks.

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Gill Passman 28-03-2007 07:10 PM

sitting out by the pond
 
Nick Cramer wrote:


Sitting by the pond, watching the fish, in the evening with a good cigar
and a nice brandy is great. I miss my fish, but still enjoy sitting outside
in the evening with a a good friend, a good cigar and a nice brandy. Those
late departed fish will contribute to some wonderful guavas this year.
sigh

Sounds idyllic to me....I can't wait until we get the pond under
construction - listening to the water feature thingy isn't quite the
same although it's what I've had to make do with for quite a few years
since filling in the old pond once the little one started
toddling....think I'd skip the cigar personally tho ;-)

Have you made any progress on the clean up yet? Hopefully you will be
able to get some more fishy buddies again soon....

Gill


drsolo 28-03-2007 07:28 PM

sitting out by the pond
 
a 5 gallon bucket with the pump (hose goes out to the veggie filter
normally, now it just points back into the pond) in the bottom and various
filter material pushed down on top and then the handle has a rope that I
loop over a screw on the side of the pond so I can haul it out. Ingrid


"Henry & Carolyn" wrote in message
...
What exactly is a "bucket" filter? Do you just put a bucket with filter
material in the pond, or is there a pump attached to it?



Reel McKoi 28-03-2007 07:56 PM

sitting out by the pond
 

"Kurt" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Reel McKoi" wrote:

"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
...
"Phyllis and Jim" wrote:
Hi Nick! Nice to have you here.

Thanks Jim. It's kinda sad for me, with my fish having died. I dunno
what
to do to keep my pond from turning into a mosquito farm..

==============================
A few dozen inexpensive rosy reds or goldfish should take care of that
problem.


My experience is that goldfish don't want to eat mosquito larvae if
there is anything else to eat. Don't know what area you live in but our
county provides free mosquitofish for anyone who asks.

=================================
I'm in middle TN. My experience is that anything with either goldfish or
rosy reds has been free of mosquito larvae. :-) YMMV.
--

RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
ISP: Hughes.net
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö


Nick Cramer 28-03-2007 11:29 PM

sitting out by the pond
 
"Phyllis and Jim" wrote:
Nick,

I forgot what happened to your fish.

Any chance of putting mosquito fish in? That is what we did in our
farm pond...to prevent mosquitos until we get our bluegills in.

[ . . . ]

Mosquito fish are cheap enough, but the one year I had them, they didn't
make it through the winter (North Hollywood CA). I think I'd have to drain
the pond to get rid of any remaining termite extermination spray first.
Thanks.

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!

Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! !
~Semper Fi~


Nick Cramer 28-03-2007 11:36 PM

sitting out by the pond
 
Gill Passman wrote:
Nick Cramer wrote:
[ . . . ]
Have you made any progress on the clean up yet? Hopefully you will be
able to get some more fishy buddies again soon....


Well, at least I've started thinking about it. ;-/

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!

Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! !
~Semper Fi~


Lar 29-03-2007 03:21 AM

sitting out by the pond
 
Reel McKoi wrote:

"Kurt" wrote in message
...

In article ,
"Reel McKoi" wrote:

"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
...
"Phyllis and Jim" wrote:
Hi Nick! Nice to have you here.

Thanks Jim. It's kinda sad for me, with my fish having died. I
dunno what
to do to keep my pond from turning into a mosquito farm..
==============================
A few dozen inexpensive rosy reds or goldfish should take care of that
problem.



My experience is that goldfish don't want to eat mosquito larvae if
there is anything else to eat. Don't know what area you live in but our
county provides free mosquitofish for anyone who asks.


=================================
I'm in middle TN. My experience is that anything with either goldfish
or rosy reds has been free of mosquito larvae. :-) YMMV.


I was always amazed with my little 300g pond has 650 g/h pump, number of
gold fish and different type of "aquarium" fish and their various fry
along with the invertebrate type predators and would still see the
occasional adult mosquito emerge from pupation. Definitely not problem
numbers, just the occasional to complete the aqua micro environment out
there.

Lar


Kurt[_2_] 29-03-2007 04:46 AM

sitting out by the pond
 
In article ,
Nick Cramer wrote:

"Phyllis and Jim" wrote:
Nick,

I forgot what happened to your fish.

Any chance of putting mosquito fish in? That is what we did in our
farm pond...to prevent mosquitos until we get our bluegills in.

[ . . . ]

Mosquito fish are cheap enough, but the one year I had them, they didn't
make it through the winter (North Hollywood CA). I think I'd have to drain
the pond to get rid of any remaining termite extermination spray first.
Thanks.


I had a a lot of them in my pond in Van Nuys (right near you). They did
well. Our winters never get that cold. They also need some vegetation
that the fry can hide in. Vector Control will give them to you for free.
You just take a big bucket to their office in Pacoima (I think).

--
To reply by email, remove the word "space"


~ jan[_2_] 29-03-2007 05:01 AM

sitting out by the pond
 
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:38:30 CST, "Henry & Carolyn"
wrote:

What exactly is a "bucket" filter? Do you just put a bucket with filter
material in the pond, or is there a pump attached to it?


As RM explained. Only Solo mentioned using polyester batting in hers so she
could just toss it when it clogged up.

I have used DIY bucket filters using open cell foam cut to fit the bucket
with a hole thru it for the tubing/pipe. One can also do a trickle filter
by putting the pump in the pond/Q-tank and running the hose up to a bucket
off to the side or over the pond (so the water flows back in from the
bottom). The bottom must be very slotted, so the water doesn't build up in
the bucket but actually flows straight thru. Media for this can be anything
from lava rock to special ceramic pieces. Supposedly trickle filters mature
faster than submerged ones with the added plus of getting rid of nitrates.
They are not for removing solids.

I personally have never used one, and with plants in the pond (or filter)
nitrates are not a problem either. ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State


Phyllis and Jim 29-03-2007 05:02 AM

sitting out by the pond
 
Ingrid and RM, A bucket filter is a new idea to me. Jim has never
done a temporary filter like that. I will tell him about that.

Phyllis

On Mar 28, 12:28 pm, "drsolo" wrote:
a 5 gallon bucket with the pump (hose goes out to the veggie filter
normally, now it just points back into the pond) in the bottom and various
filter material pushed down on top and then the handle has a rope that I
loop over a screw on the side of the pond so I can haul it out. Ingrid

"Henry & Carolyn" wrote in ...



What exactly is a "bucket" filter? Do you just put a bucket with filter
material in the pond, or is there a pump attached to it?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -



Phyllis and Jim 29-03-2007 05:02 AM

sitting out by the pond
 
Hey Nick (Southern greeting)

I am interested in the passing of your mosquito fish. We get ice on
the pond and the mosquito fish make it through winter after winter.
Different kind? Maybe?

Jim

Mosquito fish are cheap enough, but the one year I had them, they didn't
make it through the winter (North Hollywood CA). I think I'd have to drain
the pond to get rid of any remaining termite extermination spray first.
Thanks.



Nick Cramer 29-03-2007 07:05 AM

sitting out by the pond
 
"Phyllis and Jim" wrote:
Hey Nick (Southern greeting)

I am interested in the passing of your mosquito fish. We get ice on
the pond and the mosquito fish make it through winter after winter.
Different kind? Maybe?

Mosquito fish are cheap enough, but the one year I had them, they
didn't make it through the winter (North Hollywood CA). I think I'd
have to drain the pond to get rid of any remaining termite
extermination spray first. Thanks.


It was several years ago. I think I bought them at Petco.

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!

Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! !
~Semper Fi~


Nick Cramer 29-03-2007 07:06 AM

sitting out by the pond
 
Kurt wrote:
Nick Cramer wrote:
"Phyllis and Jim" wrote:
Nick,

I forgot what happened to your fish.

Any chance of putting mosquito fish in? That is what we did in our
farm pond...to prevent mosquitos until we get our bluegills in.

[ . . . ]
Mosquito fish are cheap enough, but the one year I had them, they
didn't make it through the winter (North Hollywood CA). I think I'd
have to drain the pond to get rid of any remaining termite
extermination spray first. Thanks.


I had a a lot of them in my pond in Van Nuys (right near you). They did
well. Our winters never get that cold. They also need some vegetation
that the fry can hide in. Vector Control will give them to you for free.
You just take a big bucket to their office in Pacoima (I think).


Thanks, Kurt. I'll check it out.

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!

Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! !
~Semper Fi~


drsolo 29-03-2007 04:29 PM

sitting out by the pond
 
I use polyester batting when I want to get rid of stuff fast. It is great
for catching clay and algae and other "fines" in the pond. It is almost
impossible to clean up so I get big chunks of this at the fabric store, cant
remember the name of the brand but it has no additives. I put this in and
overnight it pulled most of the algae out of the pond. my bucket filter
isnt a trickle filter because it is in the pond. Here is picture of very
small bucket filter for tank or stock tank.
http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/c...re.html#BUCKET
below that is set up for trickle filter.
gravel sets up very very fast as a trickle filter. It is the available
oxygen that does it. Ingrid

"~ jan" wrote in message
...
mentioned using polyester batting in hers so she could just toss it when it
clogged up.

Supposedly trickle filters mature faster than submerged ones with the added
plus of getting rid of nitrates.


drsolo 29-03-2007 04:30 PM

sitting out by the pond
 
Please, if you are going to respond to messages at the bottom, then cut
out/tighten/clean up what goes "before". It is a bit of scrolling to get to
the bottom. Ingrid


"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
...
Kurt wrote:
Nick Cramer wrote:
"Phyllis and Jim" wrote:
Nick,

I forgot what happened to your fish.

Any chance of putting mosquito fish in? That is what we did in our
farm pond...to prevent mosquitos until we get our bluegills in.
[ . . . ]
Mosquito fish are cheap enough, but the one year I had them, they
didn't make it through the winter (North Hollywood CA). I think I'd
have to drain the pond to get rid of any remaining termite
extermination spray first. Thanks.


I had a a lot of them in my pond in Van Nuys (right near you). They did
well. Our winters never get that cold. They also need some vegetation
that the fry can hide in. Vector Control will give them to you for free.
You just take a big bucket to their office in Pacoima (I think).


Thanks, Kurt. I'll check it out.

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!

Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! !

!
~Semper Fi~



BoyPete 02-04-2007 10:56 PM

sitting out by the pond
 
~ jan wrote:
This weekend, I started up the big pump and opened the 2nd chamber on
the filter. The water fall is going, but both the stream and upper
pond are still screened to catch the stuff falling from the big maple
(that is soon to be removed, but not soon enough). The lower pond,
w/skimmer, the screen is off. Fish look good, water looks good,
though I should do some water checks this weekend. Motion sprinkler &
baby monitor turned on. Water temp was 52F has fallen to 49.8, so not
bad after one 32F night. Hopefully temps will stay up, suppose to be
more seasonable the rest of the week. ~ jan ------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State


Can you explain Motion sprinkler and baby monitor please.
Also, from elsewhere in this thread, what is Polyester batting? A US
terminology ?
Ta :)
--
ßôyþëtë
London, UK


~ jan[_2_] 03-04-2007 01:11 AM

sitting out by the pond
 
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 15:56:02 CST, "BoyPete" wrote:

Can you explain Motion sprinkler


http://www.contech-inc.com/products/scarecrow/

and baby monitor please.


A baby monitor is a one way radio normally used to listen for a baby in the
crib, as to when it wakes up, etc. I put the transmitter outside and
receiver in my bedroom.

Also, from elsewhere in this thread, what is Polyester batting? A US
terminology ?


Polyester batting is used for quilt or pillow making. ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State



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