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I am not particularly afraid of snakes, but I'm not an extreme snake
lover either, and I don't keep any snakey pets. Sure, I know some of them can hurt you, but by far most of them are quite harmless. I can positively identify the relatively few venomous snakes that live in this part of northern Florida. Anyway, this wasn't one of them. It was 3-4 ft long, and it was in the water. About the only thing that was dangerous would be a cottonmouth, and it was too sleek for that. A cottonmouth big enough to be that long would be rather fat also. Besides, as I got closer the head was all wrong and the snake was uniformly black except for it's white chin and throat and brown lips which made it most likely a southern black racer, but not being any sort of snake expert, this is only a guess. I stopped to watch it, but it seemed to want to play a game of who could stay still the longest, and it won when I got bored and went inside. Later that afternoon I was fussing around the pond again, and saw the snake again. It had made it about a quarter of the way around the pond (25-30 feet), but was still pretty intent on remaining mostly motionless, a game I didn't find too exciting. This morning to my surprise it was still there, head above water by the edge of the pond. Now I'm not especially worried about snakes, and I don't have any fish. There are some pretty big tadpoles, and some large swimming beetles I've seen, but it has got to be pretty slim pickings for a snake that size. The question is, if it hangs around, what do y'all suggest I name it? -- Galen Hekhuis Illiterate? Write for FREE help |
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Hiss. (After the snake in Disney's Robin Hood cartoon.) k :-) (whose only interaction with a snake was when I threw a laundry basket at one) |
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Galen Hekhuis wrote:
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:08:02 CST, Galen Hekhuis
wrote: it has got to be pretty slim pickings for a snake that size. The question is, if it hangs around, what do y'all suggest I name it? You might have small animals, like mice and voles that come to the pond to drink. Slurp for the snake. I'd suggest you call it Sssssusssssan. -- r.bc: vixen Minnow goddess, Speaker to squirrels, willow watcher. Almost entirely harmless. Really. http://www.visi.com/~cyli |
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 02:55:07 CST, Cyli wrote:
You might have small animals, like mice and voles that come to the pond to drink. Slurp for the snake. That might indeed be it, the snake usually sits in a few inches of water, facing the shore. Sort of like a crocodile waiting for a wildebeest to take a drink in Africa, but on a much smaller scale. I'd suggest you call it Sssssusssssan. I probably ought to name it some gender less name. As soon as I named it Sssssusssssan it would probably turn out to be a Ssssssam. -- Galen Hekhuis "Mistakes were made" |
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Galen Hekhuis wrote:
The question is, if it hangs around, what do y'all suggest I name it? Around our house, all snakes are named "Bob". Seriously. :-) I'm not sure where it came from, my that's what my wife and daughters have decided. Everything from the speckled kingsnake, the 7.5' rat snake, the 2 eastern coachwhips, and the 2 copperheads (plus about 8 other species). -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Chris Barnes AOL IM: CNBarnes (also MSN IM) Yahoo IM: chrisnbarnes |
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Good grief! Your wife and daughters are tougher
than I. If I saw a snake like those I'd probably call it, "EEEEEEK!!!" |
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On Apr 17, 3:08 pm, Galen Hekhuis wrote:
snip The question is, if it hangs around, what do y'all suggest I name it? If it just floats around maybe you could call it "Ssssssstick". Randy |
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kthirtya wrote:
Good grief! Your wife and daughters are tougher than I. If I saw a snake like those I'd probably call it, "EEEEEEK!!!" hahahaha - true story follows Texas A&M (where I went to school and now work) has this annual project the students do every March called "The Big Event". Basically it involves the students - close to 5,000 of them, doing volunteer projects for folks who live in the community. It usually involves things like painting, landscaping, clearing brush, etc. 2 years ago, just as we were preparing to begin building our dream house, we had a group of them come out and clear the underbrush from a wooded area near the house. The Big Event organizers sent us an entire unit from a company of the Corps of Cadets. For those of you who are not familiar with Texas A&M, the Corps of Cadets is our version of ROTC - but here, the Corps are more than just a small group... Texas A&M puts more kids into the military every year than all universities except for the Naval and Army academies. I mention this so you get a picture of the guys that showed up at our house that morning - 20 young men, all in great physical shape, all with military discipline. Naturally this meant my 3 teen-aged daughters had to stick around to "help" :-) Actually, they were alot of help - being country girls, they aren't shy about getting dirty and doing the hard stuff - but I digress... Now for a description of the area we were going to clear out - this is basically a creek bottom that hadn't been touched in ~30 years. Lots of LARGE oak trees with an almost impenetrable thicket of stickers, Yaupon trees, and poison ivy. Basically the job was to leave all the large trees and clear out everything else. 3 hours later, this group of kids had an area cleared ~40 yards wide x 80 yards long. They were armed only with axes and clippers. Impressive. We were almost done when one of the bigger of these military-sized boys drops his ax and BOLTS out of the woods. Just as he hits the open pasture, I hear him yelling "SNAAAAAKE". At this, my middle daughter (16 at the time) runs TO where this kid had just vacated and starts moving the brush out of the way saying "where? Where?" Eventually a long, slender, all black snake bolts and heads to one of the bigger oak trees. This tree happens to have a large hollow at the bottom where a hive of honey bees have taken up residence (the bees didn't seem to mind the snake one bit). Being in a "safe place", the snake now relaxed and allowed us to get a really good look. Some of the corps guys who didn't run off: "what kind is it? Is it a cotton mouth?" Me: "No, it's way to skinny to be a cotton mouth" ...looking closer... "I'm not sure what kind it is, but it's not poisonous - the head is not angular and the eyes are round, not slitted". Daughter #2: "Ah man." Corps guy who ran off: "SHE'S UPSET THAT IT'S *NOT* POISONOUS???!!!" We later identified the snake as an Eastern Coachwhip. The next fall we found 2 copperheads on the property (the only poisonous ones we've found). Amy (dd#2) was upset that I wouldn't let her keep either for a pet. What can I say - she's her father's daughter! *VBG* -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Chris Barnes AOL IM: CNBarnes (also MSN IM) Yahoo IM: chrisnbarnes |
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"Galen Hekhuis" wrote in message
... I am not particularly afraid of snakes, but I'm not an extreme snake lover either, and I don't keep any snakey pets. Sure, I know some of them can hurt you, but by far most of them are quite harmless. I can positively identify the relatively few venomous snakes that live in this part of northern Florida. Anyway, this wasn't one of them. It was 3-4 ft long, and it was in the water. About the only thing that was dangerous would be a cottonmouth, and it was too sleek for that. A cottonmouth big enough to be that long would be rather fat also. Besides, as I got closer the head was all wrong and the snake was uniformly black except for it's white chin and throat and brown lips which made it most likely a southern black racer, but not being any sort of snake expert, this is only a guess. I stopped to watch it, but it seemed to want to play a game of who could stay still the longest, and it won when I got bored and went inside. Later that afternoon I was fussing around the pond again, and saw the snake again. It had made it about a quarter of the way around the pond (25-30 feet), but was still pretty intent on remaining mostly motionless, a game I didn't find too exciting. This morning to my surprise it was still there, head above water by the edge of the pond. Now I'm not especially worried about snakes, and I don't have any fish. There are some pretty big tadpoles, and some large swimming beetles I've seen, but it has got to be pretty slim pickings for a snake that size. The question is, if it hangs around, what do y'all suggest I name it? -- Galen Hekhuis Illiterate? Write for FREE help You could name it Kurt. (movie ref). I'm not a snake expert, either, and I'm ashamed to admit I once killed a harmless rat snake (well, harmless to humans) before I could ID it. I've since saved quite a few rat snakes so maybe my karma has equalized... (but the Barn Swallows would disagree). Anyway, google is our friend. There are a few good sites for snake IDing that I've accessed previously. Based on your description, it looks like you are close on the ID: http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/natsci/herp...onstrictor.htm The really helpful guide starts he http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/herpetology...nakekey.htm#31 I've used it to ID Texas snakes. Gail near San Antonio TX |
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randyinaloha wrote:
On Apr 17, 3:08 pm, Galen Hekhuis wrote: snip The question is, if it hangs around, what do y'all suggest I name it? If it just floats around maybe you could call it "Ssssssstick". Randy How about "Hissing Sid" - if a boy it is Sidney, if a girl it is Sidone....(pronounced Sid own ee) Gill |
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In article
, "Gail Futoran" wrote: "Galen Hekhuis" wrote in message ... I am not particularly afraid of snakes, but I'm not an extreme snake lover either, and I don't keep any snakey pets. Sure, I know some of them can hurt you, but by far most of them are quite harmless. I can positively identify the relatively few venomous snakes that live in this part of northern Florida. Anyway, this wasn't one of them. It was 3-4 ft long, and it was in the water. About the only thing that was dangerous would be a cottonmouth, and it was too sleek for that. A cottonmouth big enough to be that long would be rather fat also. Besides, as I got closer the head was all wrong and the snake was uniformly black except for it's white chin and throat and brown lips which made it most likely a southern black racer, but not being any sort of snake expert, this is only a guess. I stopped to watch it, but it seemed to want to play a game of who could stay still the longest, and it won when I got bored and went inside. Later that afternoon I was fussing around the pond again, and saw the snake again. It had made it about a quarter of the way around the pond (25-30 feet), but was still pretty intent on remaining mostly motionless, a game I didn't find too exciting. This morning to my surprise it was still there, head above water by the edge of the pond. Now I'm not especially worried about snakes, and I don't have any fish. There are some pretty big tadpoles, and some large swimming beetles I've seen, but it has got to be pretty slim pickings for a snake that size. The question is, if it hangs around, what do y'all suggest I name it? -- Galen Hekhuis Illiterate? Write for FREE help You could name it Kurt. (movie ref). Oh thank you... -- To reply by email, remove the word "space" |
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"Galen Hekhuis" wrote in message
... I am not particularly afraid of snakes, but I'm not an extreme snake lover either, and I don't keep any snakey pets. Sure, I know some of them can hurt you, but by far most of them are quite harmless. I can positively identify the relatively few venomous snakes that live in this part of northern Florida. Anyway, this wasn't one of them. It was 3-4 ft long, and it was in the water. About the only thing that was dangerous would be a cottonmouth, and it was too sleek for that. A cottonmouth big enough to be that long would be rather fat also. Besides, as I got closer the head was all wrong and the snake was uniformly black except for it's white chin and throat and brown lips which made it most likely a southern black racer, but not being any sort of snake expert, this is only a guess. I stopped to watch it, but it seemed to want to play a game of who could stay still the longest, and it won when I got bored and went inside. Later that afternoon I was fussing around the pond again, and saw the snake again. It had made it about a quarter of the way around the pond (25-30 feet), but was still pretty intent on remaining mostly motionless, a game I didn't find too exciting. This morning to my surprise it was still there, head above water by the edge of the pond. Now I'm not especially worried about snakes, and I don't have any fish. There are some pretty big tadpoles, and some large swimming beetles I've seen, but it has got to be pretty slim pickings for a snake that size. The question is, if it hangs around, what do y'all suggest I name it? -- Galen Hekhuis Illiterate? Write for FREE help Name? No arms? No legs? In the water? BOB! |
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:58:48 CST, Chris Barnes wrote:
The next fall we found 2 copperheads on the property (the only poisonous ones we've found). Amy (dd#2) was upset that I wouldn't let her keep either for a pet. What can I say - she's her father's daughter! *VBG* I can relate to that, only I never brought home anything poisonous... but middle son brought me home a baby rattler in a peanut butter jar when he was 8. I was NOT amused. That snake spent the evening in the frig. and then took a ride in a cooler with an ice pack and was set free in a desert area about 40 miles away. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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"Cyli" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:08:02 CST, Galen Hekhuis wrote: it has got to be pretty slim pickings for a snake that size. The question is, if it hangs around, what do y'all suggest I name it? You might have small animals, like mice and voles that come to the pond to drink. Slurp for the snake. I'd suggest you call it Sssssusssssan. -- r.bc: vixen Minnow goddess, Speaker to squirrels, willow watcher. Almost entirely harmless. Really. http://www.visi.com/~cyli I like that. Better than SsssorcereSSSS: animal hypnotist. Hi Cyli!!! Fancy meeting you here! kat ^.^ in Rhinelander |
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"Kurt" wrote in message
... In article , "Gail Futoran" wrote: "Galen Hekhuis" wrote in message ... I am not particularly afraid of snakes, but I'm not an extreme snake lover either, and I don't keep any snakey pets. Sure, I know some of them can hurt you, but by far most of them are quite harmless. I can positively identify the relatively few venomous snakes that live in this part of northern Florida. Anyway, this wasn't one of them. It was 3-4 ft long, and it was in the water. About the only thing that was dangerous would be a cottonmouth, and it was too sleek for that. A cottonmouth big enough to be that long would be rather fat also. Besides, as I got closer the head was all wrong and the snake was uniformly black except for it's white chin and throat and brown lips which made it most likely a southern black racer, but not being any sort of snake expert, this is only a guess. I stopped to watch it, but it seemed to want to play a game of who could stay still the longest, and it won when I got bored and went inside. Later that afternoon I was fussing around the pond again, and saw the snake again. It had made it about a quarter of the way around the pond (25-30 feet), but was still pretty intent on remaining mostly motionless, a game I didn't find too exciting. This morning to my surprise it was still there, head above water by the edge of the pond. Now I'm not especially worried about snakes, and I don't have any fish. There are some pretty big tadpoles, and some large swimming beetles I've seen, but it has got to be pretty slim pickings for a snake that size. The question is, if it hangs around, what do y'all suggest I name it? -- Galen Hekhuis Illiterate? Write for FREE help You could name it Kurt. (movie ref). Oh thank you... Kurt Russell, actor. Played the character Snake in the 1981 movie "Escape from New York" and the 1996 movie "Escape from LA". Don't take my word for it, here are links: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082340/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116225/ Russell might well have appeared in another movie as Snake but those are the only two I'm familiar with. I do see snakes in my in-ground pond occasionally, but they don't seem to bother the goldfish, or at least not the larger ones. I don't mind if they cull the fry. Gail Futoran |
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Rhinelander? Home of the Hodag?
"kat ^.^" wrote in message ... in Rhinelander |
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Klatch wrote:
Name? *No arms? *No legs? *In the water? *BOB! Damn. I just posted that. You beat me... -- derek - Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated moderators. |
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Galen Hekhuis wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 02:55:07 CST, Cyli wrote: I'd suggest you call it Sssssusssssan. I probably ought to name it some gender less name. As soon as I named it Sssssusssssan it would probably turn out to be a Ssssssam. Ssssssam is pretty well genderless these days. -- derek - Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated moderators. |
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Chris Barnes wrote:
Galen Hekhuis wrote: The question is, if it hangs around, what do y'all suggest I name it? Around our house, all snakes are named "Bob". As in "what do you call a reptile with no arms and no legs in a pond?" -- derek - Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated moderators. |
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In article
, "Gail Futoran" wrote: "Kurt" wrote in message ... In article , "Gail Futoran" wrote: "Galen Hekhuis" wrote in message ... I am not particularly afraid of snakes, but I'm not an extreme snake lover either, and I don't keep any snakey pets. Sure, I know some of them can hurt you, but by far most of them are quite harmless. I can positively identify the relatively few venomous snakes that live in this part of northern Florida. Anyway, this wasn't one of them. It was 3-4 ft long, and it was in the water. About the only thing that was dangerous would be a cottonmouth, and it was too sleek for that. A cottonmouth big enough to be that long would be rather fat also. Besides, as I got closer the head was all wrong and the snake was uniformly black except for it's white chin and throat and brown lips which made it most likely a southern black racer, but not being any sort of snake expert, this is only a guess. I stopped to watch it, but it seemed to want to play a game of who could stay still the longest, and it won when I got bored and went inside. Later that afternoon I was fussing around the pond again, and saw the snake again. It had made it about a quarter of the way around the pond (25-30 feet), but was still pretty intent on remaining mostly motionless, a game I didn't find too exciting. This morning to my surprise it was still there, head above water by the edge of the pond. Now I'm not especially worried about snakes, and I don't have any fish. There are some pretty big tadpoles, and some large swimming beetles I've seen, but it has got to be pretty slim pickings for a snake that size. The question is, if it hangs around, what do y'all suggest I name it? -- Galen Hekhuis Illiterate? Write for FREE help You could name it Kurt. (movie ref). Oh thank you... Kurt Russell, actor. Played the character Snake in the 1981 movie "Escape from New York" and the 1996 movie "Escape from LA". Don't take my word for it, here are links: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082340/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116225/ Russell might well have appeared in another movie as Snake but those are the only two I'm familiar with. I do see snakes in my in-ground pond occasionally, but they don't seem to bother the goldfish, or at least not the larger ones. I don't mind if they cull the fry. Gail Futoran I'd prefer a snake names after me. -- To reply by email, remove the word "space" |
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Derek Broughton wrote:
Chris Barnes wrote: Galen Hekhuis wrote: The question is, if it hangs around, what do y'all suggest I name it? Around our house, all snakes are named "Bob". As in "what do you call a reptile with no arms and no legs in a pond?" I admit that is pretty funny - but it never occurred to us. All of the snakes we've found thus far have been "land dwellers" (with a couple that like to live in trees). -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Chris Barnes AOL IM: CNBarnes (also MSN IM) Yahoo IM: chrisnbarnes |
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On Apr 19, 11:27 am, "drsolo" wrote:
Rhinelander? Home of the Hodag? "kat ^.^" wrote in message ... in Rhinelander That very town. You know the hodag? Tell me more. kat ^.^ in Rhinelander |
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On Apr 19, 11:27 am, "drsolo" wrote:
Rhinelander? Home of the Hodag? "kat ^.^" wrote in message ... in Rhinelander (tried this earlier, don't see it, and OE is acting out) yup, that's the one. You speak Hodag? kat ^.^ in Rhinelander |
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:14:33 CST, "kat ^.^"
wrote: I like that. Better than SsssorcereSSSS: animal hypnotist. Hi Cyli!!! Fancy meeting you here! kat ^.^ in Rhinelander I saw all the fuss and the creation over in news.groups and decided to drop in. This is pretty much as I remember it before the gruesome twosome sucked people into their black hole of trolldom. I get around a lot of odd places and groups. Some interest in ponds because my (recently moved) neighbor had a tiny plastic pond on her deck for a couple of years and because there's a drainage and holding pond of about 1 / 2 to 1 acre out my back window. I suspect the neighbor got rid of her excess fish each fall by putting them in the drainage pond, because about two or three years ago it began to be carpeted in goldfish. -- r.bc: vixen Minnow goddess, Speaker to squirrels, willow watcher. Almost entirely harmless. Really. http://www.visi.com/~cyli |
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Nice to have you drop by. We too are enjoying the group being about
as it was before the conflicts. Your drainage pond sounds quite something. Can the goldies be washed down stream? It would be sad to have them launched to compete with the natives. Jim |
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I spent my summers camping up in the land of the Hodag, never learned to
speak tho. Ingrid wrote in message ups.com... (tried this earlier, don't see it, and OE is acting out) yup, that's the one. You speak Hodag? kat ^.^ in Rhinelander |
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"Phyllis and Jim" wrote in message ups.com... Nice to have you drop by. We too are enjoying the group being about as it was before the conflicts. Your drainage pond sounds quite something. Can the goldies be washed down stream? It would be sad to have them launched to compete with the natives. Jim Not only sad, but in most jurisdictions it is illegal to release non-native species into the wild. |
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"Cyli" wrote in message ... On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:14:33 CST, "kat ^.^" wrote: I like that. Better than SsssorcereSSSS: animal hypnotist. Hi Cyli!!! Fancy meeting you here! kat ^.^ in Rhinelander I saw all the fuss and the creation over in news.groups and decided to drop in. This is pretty much as I remember it before the gruesome twosome sucked people into their black hole of trolldom. I get around a lot of odd places and groups. Some interest in ponds because my (recently moved) neighbor had a tiny plastic pond on her deck for a couple of years and because there's a drainage and holding pond of about 1 / 2 to 1 acre out my back window. I suspect the neighbor got rid of her excess fish each fall by putting them in the drainage pond, because about two or three years ago it began to be carpeted in goldfish. -- r.bc: vixen Minnow goddess, Speaker to squirrels, willow watcher. Almost entirely harmless. Really. http://www.visi.com/~cyli Like Phyllis and Jim say, I hope they don't escape. That's why I haven't put goldfish or the like in our pond (maybe 1/3 acre, dug out of the swamp). Even though there's little chance they'd get into the creek, it's not worth the gamble. Bet it's cool, though, watching all the little goldies. The ice is officially off of our pond now--hurrah! -- kat ^.^ Welcome to Malaria Gardens Mosquito rides Now Open for the Season Please hold tightly to small children and pets |
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"Galen Hekhuis" wrote in message ... On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:22:40 CST, wrote: On Apr 19, 11:27 am, "drsolo" wrote: Rhinelander? Home of the Hodag? "kat ^.^" wrote in message ... in Rhinelander That very town. You know the hodag? Tell me more. kat ^.^ in Rhinelander Well it doesn't look like I'll be naming snakes anytime soon, the southern black racer that was in the pond has apparently left for greener (or wetter, or something) pastures. It may have been some sort of irreconcilable personality conflict, I don't know. In any event, the snake is gone. The hodag is a critter that I didn't expect to find mentioned here. I am most familiar with the "cave hodag" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hodag). I've been caving pretty much all over the US, but mostly in the Virginia-West Virginia areas. In that area the well-known but seldom seen hodag has several subterranean chambers named in honor of it. I wasn't aware of any above ground relatives. -- Galen Hekhuis We'll cross that bridge when it rears its ugly head The ORIGINAL hodag was discovered by a fellow named Gene Shepard in the woods of Rhinelander. Wiki has a nice starter story, and here is more history: http://www.hodagpress.com/about.htm. Lately there have been more hodag sightings (see http://www.hodagsightings.com/) as they come out of hibernation. Watch you white bulldogs! They consider them a tasty treat. -- kat ^.^ Welcome to Malaria Gardens Mosquito rides Now Open for the Season Please hold tightly to small children and pets |
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Hope you enjoyed your stays here!
kat ^.^ "drsolo" wrote in message . com... I spent my summers camping up in the land of the Hodag, never learned to speak tho. Ingrid wrote in message ups.com... (tried this earlier, don't see it, and OE is acting out) yup, that's the one. You speak Hodag? kat ^.^ in Rhinelander |
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I suspect the neighbor got rid of her excess fish each fall by putting them in the
drainage pond, because about two or three years ago it began to be carpeted in goldfish. It is amazing that all the US hasn't done what Maine has and outlawed the common goldfish because of this. At the Demo.Pond we often get the offerings of the fish dumpers. People dump cats & dogs, so I'm not surprised they dump fish. There was once an article in our paper showing one of the treatment plants holding tanks full of those that had been flushed down the toilets, swimming merrily. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:16:04 CST, "Klatch"
wrote: "Phyllis and Jim" wrote in message oups.com... Nice to have you drop by. We too are enjoying the group being about as it was before the conflicts. Your drainage pond sounds quite something. Can the goldies be washed down stream? It would be sad to have them launched to compete with the natives. Jim Not only sad, but in most jurisdictions it is illegal to release non-native species into the wild. Or to move native species from one environment into another where they haven't previously existed. Nonetheless, people do both all too often. Fishermen call them 'bucket biologists' in a sneering tone of voice if the species interferes with the target species of the fishermen. -- r.bc: vixen Minnow goddess, Speaker to squirrels, willow watcher. Almost entirely harmless. Really. http://www.visi.com/~cyli |
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:00:37 CST, "kat ^.^"
wrote: "Cyli" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:14:33 CST, "kat ^.^" wrote: I like that. Better than SsssorcereSSSS: animal hypnotist. Hi Cyli!!! Fancy meeting you here! kat ^.^ in Rhinelander I saw all the fuss and the creation over in news.groups and decided to drop in. This is pretty much as I remember it before the gruesome twosome sucked people into their black hole of trolldom. I get around a lot of odd places and groups. Some interest in ponds because my (recently moved) neighbor had a tiny plastic pond on her deck for a couple of years and because there's a drainage and holding pond of about 1 / 2 to 1 acre out my back window. I suspect the neighbor got rid of her excess fish each fall by putting them in the drainage pond, because about two or three years ago it began to be carpeted in goldfish. -- r.bc: vixen Minnow goddess, Speaker to squirrels, willow watcher. Almost entirely harmless. Really. http://www.visi.com/~cyli Like Phyllis and Jim say, I hope they don't escape. That's why I haven't put goldfish or the like in our pond (maybe 1/3 acre, dug out of the swamp). Even though there's little chance they'd get into the creek, it's not worth the gamble. Bet it's cool, though, watching all the little goldies. The ice is officially off of our pond now--hurrah! They probably will go downstream. The pond feeds into a system that feeds into a local lake. Which is all explained on a sign at the street corner by the edge of the pond. Whoever put them in there either didn't understand or didn't care. There is at least one very obvious filter at the outgoing end, but.... The lake it will go to doesn't have an outlet, just sinks into ground water with overflow going through a culvert to a swamp across the road which has no place to drain and sinks into ground water as far as I can tell. And it's got algae all over one end, because people will keep fertilizing their lawns and were allowed to keep them up to the very water's edge until very recently. Luckily the small lake has a lot of hungry small mouth bass and some walleyes. Might even have a pike or two in there. -- r.bc: vixen Minnow goddess, Speaker to squirrels, willow watcher. Almost entirely harmless. Really. http://www.visi.com/~cyli |
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Oh yes, fond fond memories. Ingrid
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Cyli wrote:
Or to move native species from one environment into another where they haven't previously existed. Nonetheless, people do both all too often. Fishermen call them 'bucket biologists' in a sneering tone of voice if the species interferes with the target species of the fishermen. Of course, most of those intentional introductions are done by fishermen. Around here it's because they'd rather fish for Bass than our native species. -- derek - Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated moderators. |
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