"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
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Gareee© wrote:

Doug Brown" wrote in message
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This really isn't that tough, and google should be your friend.

True, but as you just said, you got TONS of hits.. and after trying
about
8 different ways to attach fitting to the rubbermaid, I don;t want to
screw it up, and I don't want to deal with leaks and tearing the whole
thing apart a week from now.

It's not like there's a "build your own pond filter" website, with
specs,
part numbers and order info.

There isn't? Too bad, I know there used to be some (OK, perhaps not so
far
as "order info" but with specific part availability).

Building A Bio-Logical Filter for your Pond
http://www.skippysstuff.com/biofiltr.htm

Gareee© wrote:
Bulkhead fittings

www.aquaticeco.com ~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

"Derek Broughton" wrote:

Gareee© wrote:

Doug Brown" wrote in message
...
This really isn't that tough, and google should be your friend.

True, but as you just said, you got TONS of hits.. and after trying about
8 different ways to attach fitting to the rubbermaid, I don;t want to
screw it up, and I don't want to deal with leaks and tearing the whole
thing apart a week from now.

It's not like there's a "build your own pond filter" website, with specs,
part numbers and order info.

There isn't? Too bad, I know there used to be some (OK, perhaps not so far
as "order info" but with specific part availability).

Funny. Try googling "build your own pond filter"


San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Koi, Goldfish, and RES named Colombo.

San Diego Joe wrote:

"Derek Broughton" wrote:

Gareee© wrote:

Doug Brown" wrote in message
...
This really isn't that tough, and google should be your friend.

True, but as you just said, you got TONS of hits.. and after trying
about 8 different ways to attach fitting to the rubbermaid, I don;t want
to screw it up, and I don't want to deal with leaks and tearing the
whole thing apart a week from now.

It's not like there's a "build your own pond filter" website, with
specs, part numbers and order info.

There isn't? Too bad, I know there used to be some (OK, perhaps not so
far as "order info" but with specific part availability).

Funny. Try googling "build your own pond filter"

I'm not sure what your point is. I don't see anything there that actually
gives the sort of detail Gareee wants. I really do recall having seen some
that did.
--
derek
- Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated
moderators.

"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
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San Diego Joe wrote:

"Derek Broughton" wrote:

Gareee© wrote:

Doug Brown" wrote in message
...
This really isn't that tough, and google should be your friend.

True, but as you just said, you got TONS of hits.. and after trying
about 8 different ways to attach fitting to the rubbermaid, I don;t
want
to screw it up, and I don't want to deal with leaks and tearing the
whole thing apart a week from now.

It's not like there's a "build your own pond filter" website, with
specs, part numbers and order info.

There isn't? Too bad, I know there used to be some (OK, perhaps not so
far as "order info" but with specific part availability).

Funny. Try googling "build your own pond filter"

I'm not sure what your point is. I don't see anything there that actually
gives the sort of detail Gareee wants. I really do recall having seen
some
that did.

It's funny you mention that,. Derek.. the whole point of getting the group
back was to have a resource for us to share information, but when someone
has an honest problem, and asks for issues, were were a number of "google it
yourself" replies.

When I build my smaller filter last year, not once was a bulkhead mentioned
in any reply, and I think I made 15 trips to either a lowe's walmart or home
depot getting parts to assemble. I've already spent probably 4 hours in
store this year on the new one, and a full day on assembly, trying to get it
right with a larger filter this go around.

I'm still not 100% sure the toilet flages using the wax gaskets will work
over time, but no one offered a solution to adding them to a rubbermaid at
all, so I just kind of made it up as I went along. I stil might have to
actually make gaskets of some kind, and add a home made rigid gasket for the
inner connectors on the rubbermaid.

And while many people live "in the big city" where a lot of options for
parts are available, many of us do NOT, and have few shopping options. I
personally have a Lowe's and walmart nearby, a Home Depot 30 minutes highway
away, and a few scattered farm supply stores, that look like they are still
mired in the 70's. My only other resource is shopping on the web, but if you
get the wrong parts, it's weeks before that can be turned around and
rectified, plus then you have to add shipping costs.

I was a bit dismayed by the negative replies to me assembly issues, but held
my tounge.

--
Gareee
(Gary Tabar Jr.)

Gareee© wrote:

I was a bit dismayed by the negative replies to me assembly issues, but
held my tounge.

Seriously, I think much of it wasn't intended to be negative (I admit to
having missed at least half the thread, though) but was more in the sense
of not realizing that what was obvious to many responders wasn't obvious to
you. I know when I initially responded about glues, I was completely
unaware you were trying to put a fitting through the Rubbermaid and thought
you were trying to fix a hole.

It would be a wonderful thing if anybody _does_ know of any build-your-own
filter sites with real part numbers if they'd post links. Even when the
original builder is in a different country, if you have actual part numbers
you can find out exactly what they are on the web, then you can find local
suppliers that sell similar items. It eliminates a lot of guess work.
--
derek
- Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated
moderators.

"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
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Gareee© wrote:

I was a bit dismayed by the negative replies to me assembly issues, but
held my tounge.

Seriously, I think much of it wasn't intended to be negative (I admit to
having missed at least half the thread, though)

There were many great replies, both for experiences with adhesives as well
as sources of info for bulkhead fittings.

but was more in the sense
of not realizing that what was obvious to many responders wasn't obvious
to
you. I know when I initially responded about glues, I was completely
unaware you were trying to put a fitting through the Rubbermaid and
thought
you were trying to fix a hole.

It would be a wonderful thing if anybody _does_ know of any build-your-own
filter sites with real part numbers if they'd post links.

Again, there were several great sites posted, both with DIY info, and
commercial parts ordering sites, but both you and Garee apparently missed
all of them.

Even when the
original builder is in a different country, if you have actual part
numbers
you can find out exactly what they are on the web, then you can find local
suppliers that sell similar items. It eliminates a lot of guess work.

"cat daddy" wrote in message
...

There were many great replies, both for experiences with adhesives as well
as sources of info for bulkhead fittings.

Yes, and from the replies, I never got any confirmation abotu any adhesive
really working on rubbermaid containers

Again, there were several great sites posted, both with DIY info, and
commercial parts ordering sites, but both you and Garee apparently missed
all of them.

No, I did see them, and visited them,.. and they were posted about 2 weeks
after the original thread was started.

--
Gareee
(Gary Tabar Jr.)

Garee wrote:
It's not like there's a "build your own pond filter" website, with specs,
part numbers and order info.

I went through similar issues last year building the smaller filter, and not
once was adding a bulkhead even mentioned.

Actually, if you'd looked at mine, which is always at the bottom of my sig.
I show the filter, the parts, where purchased, cost (at the time), and part
numbers. Granted some of the info is old, but it will still get you there.
Bulkheads are part of the list.

Unfortunately it is somewhat different than what you are building. I'm
sorry, I assumed (oops) that you'd seen my website at one time or another.

I should know better. Especially after yesterday when a lady stopped by the
booth I was manning asking about pond builder/fixers who actually showed up
to work. Turned out after talking with her for a bit, she had a leak and
hadn't even tried the method of turning off the water fall to see if it was
there. She was already to rip it out, order a new liner, and hire someone
to do. She'd already had someone out who didn't measurements and didn't get
back to her.... and he didn't even make sure that's where the problem was.

Click on Demon Pond Filter to see picture and the parts list. Click on "My
Filter" to see it in ground. ~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

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"Gareee©" wrote:

"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
...
San Diego Joe wrote:

"Derek Broughton" wrote:

Gareee© wrote:

Doug Brown" wrote in message
...
This really isn't that tough, and google should be your friend.

True, but as you just said, you got TONS of hits.. and after trying
about 8 different ways to attach fitting to the rubbermaid, I don;t
want
to screw it up, and I don't want to deal with leaks and tearing the
whole thing apart a week from now.

It's not like there's a "build your own pond filter" website, with
specs, part numbers and order info.

There isn't? Too bad, I know there used to be some (OK, perhaps not so
far as "order info" but with specific part availability).

Funny. Try googling "build your own pond filter"

I'm not sure what your point is. I don't see anything there that actually
gives the sort of detail Gareee wants. I really do recall having seen
some
that did.

It's funny you mention that,. Derek.. the whole point of getting the group
back was to have a resource for us to share information, but when someone
has an honest problem, and asks for issues, were were a number of "google it
yourself" replies.

Only that when people were inquiring about very general things, a good
place to start is with Google.
I found myself going to Google for a few of the topics brought up here,
and was able to learn even more.

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"Kurt" wrote in message
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Only that when people were inquiring about very general things, a good
place to start is with Google.
I found myself going to Google for a few of the topics brought up here,
and was able to learn even more.

I use google here all the time,. but the best pond tips I've gotten are ALL
from the old newsgroup. Plus it makes no sense to try various web tips, when
people here have already tried them, and found issues with them.

Otherwise why even bother to have the newsgroup? The whole point it to share
tips, tricks, successes and failures so we all have better healthier ponds.


--
Gareee
(Gary Tabar Jr.)

In article ,
"Gareee©" wrote:

"Kurt" wrote in message
...

Only that when people were inquiring about very general things, a good
place to start is with Google.
I found myself going to Google for a few of the topics brought up here,
and was able to learn even more.

I use google here all the time,. but the best pond tips I've gotten are ALL
from the old newsgroup. Plus it makes no sense to try various web tips, when
people here have already tried them, and found issues with them.

Otherwise why even bother to have the newsgroup? The whole point it to share
tips, tricks, successes and failures so we all have better healthier ponds.

Of course, but in the instance where someone might be looking where to
find a particular product, a Google search would have solved the query
pretty quick.
The Gorilla Glue thread, for example is a perfect example of what you
are talking about - Personal experience on its effectiveness.

For example: The topic of using a shop vac to clean my pond was worth
it's weight in gold to me.
Would have taken a while to find that solution in Google.

The group rocks. (or flows)

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"Gareee©" wrote in message
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"cat daddy" wrote in message
...

There were many great replies, both for experiences with adhesives as
well
as sources of info for bulkhead fittings.

Yes, and from the replies, I never got any confirmation abotu any adhesive
really working on rubbermaid containers

And, valuable information to pass along in the future. Nothing easily
available will bond most Rubbermaid plastics. Specifically to the wheels on
their lawn carts, Only 3M™ Scotch-Weld™ Structural Plastic Adhesive DP-8005
will do, and it's not available to the consumer.
http://www.plasticsmag.com/ta.asp?aid=3080
So, you're back to bulkhead fittings and you should have enough info to
build your own from parts at Lowes, order any of the choices online, from
say the store in jan's link, or discover that the wax ring experiment works
or doesn't work.

Again, there were several great sites posted, both with DIY info, and
commercial parts ordering sites, but both you and Garee apparently
missed
all of them.

No, I did see them, and visited them,.. and they were posted about 2 weeks
after the original thread was started.

There was no indication of that from your posts, and Derek kept saying
that no links were being posted, when they were. The failed adhesives
discussion delayed getting to the heart of your problem. Good luck,
anyway....

cat daddy wrote:

Again, there were several great sites posted, both with DIY info, and
commercial parts ordering sites, but both you and Garee apparently missed
all of them.

Acgtually, no. I just went back through the whole thread. There were lots
of good references, once it was stated that he needed a bulkhead fitting,
for where to find bulkhead fittings, but I still don't see anything like a
web site detailing parts required for a home built filter. It would still
be nice to have.
--
derek
- Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated
moderators.

cat daddy wrote:

There was no indication of that from your posts, and Derek kept saying
that no links were being posted, when they were.

No, I didn't say anything like that. Garee pointed out that he hasn't seen
any websites that list part numbers for building a filter. I said I've
seen some, but I have no current links, and would really like to find such
links. Nothing in this thread has changed that.
--
derek
- Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated
moderators.