Topping off the pond
 

The water level in the bottom tier of the pond has dropped some with
the heat down here in the Southeast. I want to put some more in but
not sure of the best way. Can I put the hose in the pond and pour the
water conditioner in all at the same time or do I need to put the
water and conditioner in something separate (a trash can?), let it sit
for a little while and then pour it into the pond?

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We just use a hose and put de-clor. in at the same time. We top off about
once or twice a week depending on temps. Plus we may have a bit of a leak
somewhere. Anyway, we have koi and goldfish, with topping off a couple times
a week with the hose and de-clor. has not affected the water quality or the
fish. Pond is clear, fish are happy, pond is full :)

"Me" wrote in message
ups.com...
The water level in the bottom tier of the pond has dropped some with
the heat down here in the Southeast. I want to put some more in but
not sure of the best way. Can I put the hose in the pond and pour the
water conditioner in all at the same time or do I need to put the
water and conditioner in something separate (a trash can?), let it sit
for a little while and then pour it into the pond?

Topping off the pond
 

We just use a hose and put de-clor. in at the same time. We top off about
once or twice a week depending on temps. Plus we may have a bit of a leak
somewhere. Anyway, we have koi and goldfish, with topping off a couple times
a week with the hose and de-clor. has not affected the water quality or the
fish. Pond is clear, fish are happy, pond is full :)

"Me" wrote in message
ups.com...
The water level in the bottom tier of the pond has dropped some with
the heat down here in the Southeast. I want to put some more in but
not sure of the best way. Can I put the hose in the pond and pour the
water conditioner in all at the same time or do I need to put the
water and conditioner in something separate (a trash can?), let it sit
for a little while and then pour it into the pond?

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In article . com,
Me wrote:

The water level in the bottom tier of the pond has dropped some with
the heat down here in the Southeast. I want to put some more in but
not sure of the best way. Can I put the hose in the pond and pour the
water conditioner in all at the same time or do I need to put the
water and conditioner in something separate (a trash can?), let it sit
for a little while and then pour it into the pond?

My 800+ gal pond acccidently got drained to almost 1 ft of water a
couple weeks ago. Stuck the hose in and filled it, and added a few 5
gallon buckets of mixed de-chlor and tap water every so often during the
filling. Fish are fine, and seemed more lively after the water change.
My level drops a few inched every 2-3 weeks to where I just stick the
hose in to fill it back up. I don't even de-chlor it then.

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On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 08:41:18 CST, Me wrote:

The water level in the bottom tier of the pond has dropped some with
the heat down here in the Southeast. I want to put some more in but
not sure of the best way. Can I put the hose in the pond and pour the
water conditioner in all at the same time or do I need to put the
water and conditioner in something separate (a trash can?), let it sit
for a little while and then pour it into the pond?

IMO, Best way, is use a carbon filter on the hose end and use chlorine test
to make sure you haven't used up the carbon's capacity.

Next best way, imo, is add the dechlor and let the pond circulate that
around then trickle or spray in the water down the waterfall if you have
one (my method). ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

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This is a good place to add that I hope everyone is not just topping off,
but is taking some of the water out and putting fresh in, about 10%
once/week minimum. ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

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"Me" wrote in message
ups.com...
The water level in the bottom tier of the pond has dropped some with
the heat down here in the Southeast. I want to put some more in but
not sure of the best way. Can I put the hose in the pond and pour the
water conditioner in all at the same time or do I need to put the
water and conditioner in something separate (a trash can?), let it sit
for a little while and then pour it into the pond?
=================================
I add water with a greenhouse or nursery type sprayhead. It makes a course
spray. This helps degass the water on it's way to the water surface.
Unless I'm adding more than around 25% I don't bother with dechloring the
water. We don't have much in our tap water.
--

RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

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"Reel McKoi" wrote:


"Me" wrote in message
ups.com...
The water level in the bottom tier of the pond has dropped some with
the heat down here in the Southeast. I want to put some more in but
not sure of the best way. Can I put the hose in the pond and pour the
water conditioner in all at the same time or do I need to put the
water and conditioner in something separate (a trash can?), let it sit
for a little while and then pour it into the pond?
=================================
I add water with a greenhouse or nursery type sprayhead. It makes a course
spray. This helps degass the water on it's way to the water surface.
Unless I'm adding more than around 25% I don't bother with dechloring the
water. We don't have much in our tap water.

I've seen this mentioned before. Doesn't seem like spraying water in the air
would have any effect on the chlorine level of the water once it hit the
pond. Can you expand this further?

Also, to the original poster, you should find out if your municipality uses
chloramine instead of just chlorine in your tap water. The chlorine will
dissipate fairly soon. The chloramine will not and it needs to be treated.
See this for more than you'll ever want to know about the subject:

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...ture/index.php


San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Koi, Goldfish, and RES named Colombo.

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This is the way I add water to our pond for topping off - "aerating" the
water helps dissipate the chlorine, Not Chloramine - if your municipal water
has chloramine, you need a de-chlor
Gale :~)

I've seen this mentioned before. Doesn't seem like spraying water in the
air
would have any effect on the chlorine level of the water once it hit the
pond. Can you expand this further?

Also, to the original poster, you should find out if your municipality
uses
chloramine instead of just chlorine in your tap water. The chlorine will
dissipate fairly soon. The chloramine will not and it needs to be treated.
See this for more than you'll ever want to know about the subject:

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...ture/index.php


San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Koi, Goldfish, and RES named Colombo.

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San Diego Joe wrote:

"Reel McKoi" wrote:

I add water with a greenhouse or nursery type sprayhead. It makes a
course
spray. This helps degass the water on it's way to the water surface.
Unless I'm adding more than around 25% I don't bother with dechloring the
water. We don't have much in our tap water.

I've seen this mentioned before. Doesn't seem like spraying water in the
air would have any effect on the chlorine level of the water once it hit
the pond. Can you expand this further?

"Once" it hits the pond, it won't make much difference. If chlorine is used,
though, rather than chloramine, you can get rid of a great deal of it by
increasing the surface area of the added water by spraying.

Also, to the original poster, you should find out if your municipality
uses chloramine instead of just chlorine in your tap water.

That would be the key.

The chlorine
will dissipate fairly soon. The chloramine will not and it needs to be
treated.

I'm less than convinced (and references to reef aquarium literature don't
help). A pond is a massive (compared to an aquarium) biological process
and between UV from sunlight and bacterial action, I don't think chloramine
bonds hold up very long.

Any amount of chlorine (and ammonia - the "amine" part of chloramine) is
hard on your fish, but small (I'd say less than 5%) amounts get processed
pretty well by the pond.
--
derek
- Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated
moderators.

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"San Diego Joe" wrote in message
...
"Reel McKoi" wrote:
I add water with a greenhouse or nursery type sprayhead. It makes a
course
spray. This helps degass the water on it's way to the water surface.
Unless I'm adding more than around 25% I don't bother with dechloring the
water. We don't have much in our tap water.
==========
I've seen this mentioned before. Doesn't seem like spraying water in the
air
would have any effect on the chlorine level of the water once it hit the
pond. Can you expand this further?

The chlorine, a gas, escapes from the streams of water BEFORE the water hits
the ponds surface. Probably not all of it but most of it, as it does work.
I was also told or read it picks up oxygen on it's way through the air.


Also, to the original poster, you should find out if your municipality
uses
chloramine instead of just chlorine in your tap water.

Yep! That can be a problem that needs a chemical cure.


The chlorine will
dissipate fairly soon. The chloramine will not and it needs to be treated.
See this for more than you'll ever want to know about the subject:

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...ture/index.php

--

RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

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In article ,
~ jan wrote:

This is a good place to add that I hope everyone is not just topping off,
but is taking some of the water out and putting fresh in, about 10%
once/week minimum. ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

10% is quite a bit for once a week! I've never done this in many years
of having a pond. Maybe every couple months. Water has always been
manageable.

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On Jul 6, 8:41 am, Me wrote:
The water level in the bottom tier of the pond has dropped some with
the heat down here in the Southeast. I want to put some more in but
not sure of the best way. Can I put the hose in the pond and pour the
water conditioner in all at the same time or do I need to put the
water and conditioner in something separate (a trash can?), let it sit
for a little while and then pour it into the pond?

I have a 35 gallon container near the pond! I fill that up with water
and add the dechlor,deammoniator - Denver water has ammonia in it! I
let it age, then I siphon it in as needed!

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On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 20:50:56 CST, Kurt wrote:

10% is quite a bit for once a week! I've never done this in many years
of having a pond. Maybe every couple months. Water has always been
manageable.

And I use to only do a 20-25% change once a month, but the experts (keep in
mind these are strict koi pond people) say for best results, flow thru.
Next best, once/week. I think with a garden pond we have a lot more
leeway... and if your tests are good, and your water is clear, if it isn't
broke... applies. ;-) ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

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Kurt wrote:

In article ,
~ jan wrote:

This is a good place to add that I hope everyone is not just topping off,
but is taking some of the water out and putting fresh in, about 10%
once/week minimum. ~ jan

10% is quite a bit for once a week! I've never done this in many years
of having a pond. Maybe every couple months. Water has always been
manageable.

Sure it's a lot, but it would make for a healthier pond. I'd disagree
with "minimum", though. Most ponders don't manage to change that much, and
most ponders don't have serious problems. I suspect that it depends
greatly on evaporation (Jan lives in the desert), and fish load.
--
derek
- Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated
moderators.

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"Reel McKoi" wrote
Also, to the original poster, you should find out if your municipality
uses chloramine instead of just chlorine in your tap water.

The chlorine will
dissipate fairly soon. The chloramine will not and it needs to be
treated.
See this for more than you'll ever want to know about the subject:

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...ture/index.php



Municipal water systems are required by the EPA in the USA to disclose the
chemicals used in their water treatment processes must publish this
information each year for its customers.

For instance, here in New Orleans, the Sewerage and Water Board publishes a
booklet annually that describes what they do (see
http://www.swbno.org/waterpurification.html and
http://www.swbno.org/wq2006rptinframe.html ). Here's an exerpt:

"The raw river water is treated with chemicals called "coagulants" which
cause the small particles in the water to come together to form larger
particles which are then allowed to settle out of the water. Rapid sand
filtration is used to remove even smaller particles. During the process
chloramine is added to disinfect the water. Lime is added to provide
corrosion control and to increase the pH of the water to stabilize the
disinfectant. Fluoride is added to prevent tooth decay."

The coagulants used are polyelectrolites and ferric sulfate, both of which
are almost entirely removed during the initial coagulation (flocculation)
processing. Lime is added to increase the pH level of the water and to
stabilize the disinfectant. Later, free chlorine and anhydrous ammonia are
added to produce the disinfectant chloramine (technically that's soldium
hypochlorite NH2Cl)). Sodium hexametaphosphate is added to keep the lime in
solution. The flouride added is fluorosilicic acid.

This process is not unlike that used in many cities. The separate addition
of the chlorine and ammonia to produce chloramine is typical and effective
because chlorine is dangerous to transport and chloramine is more stable as
the water is distributed. However, as "Reel McKoi" says, it has to be
treated with commercial chemicals (generally sodium thiosulfate) before
introduction into the pond.

For some interesting info on chloramines and fish culture, see
http://www.skepticalaquarist.com/doc...chlorine.shtml ).


Michael
New Orleans, Louisiana USA
================================================== ==============

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On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 08:25:14 CST, Derek Broughton
wrote:

Sure it's a lot, but it would make for a healthier pond. I'd disagree
with "minimum", though. Most ponders don't manage to change that much, and
most ponders don't have serious problems. I suspect that it depends
greatly on evaporation (Jan lives in the desert), and fish load.

I wasn't suggesting adding evaporation as part of the change out. Nor was I
talking regionally. I rarely give suggestions based on my location or my
situation. I was talking from the viewpoint of the KHA program and what is
currently considered best for koi, especially in a koi only pond.

IMO, even in a planted pond, if one is doing a lot of moving plants around,
in/out, dividing, adding new, etc. it is still good to remove 10-20%/week
just to get rid of some of the organics in the water given off by the
planting media. ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

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~ jan wrote:

On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 08:25:14 CST, Derek Broughton
wrote:

Sure it's a lot, but it would make for a healthier pond. I'd disagree
with "minimum", though. Most ponders don't manage to change that much,
and
most ponders don't have serious problems. I suspect that it depends
greatly on evaporation (Jan lives in the desert), and fish load.

I wasn't suggesting adding evaporation as part of the change out.

Neither was I. Salination increases as evaporation increases, and so
removal of old water becomes more important.

I was talking from the viewpoint of the KHA program and what is
currently considered best for koi, especially in a koi only pond.

I know, and I'm sure it _is_ best, but there really aren't that many people
who make the effort.
--
derek
- Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated
moderators.

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On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 13:25:19 CST, Derek Broughton
wrote:

I know, and I'm sure it _is_ best, but there really aren't that many people
who make the effort.

That's why I keep encouraging them to do so. ;-)

Our club has been heavy on the encouragement, and not just from me, but the
other KHA more so. Neither of us has had any pond problem calls from
members. Either they're following our suggestions, or don't want to hear
the lecture again thus aren't reporting problems. I don't know. ~ jan ;-)
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

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organics dechlor chlorinated water. has anyone just tried running
city water thru peat moss? Ingrid

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On Jul 9, 11:22 pm, wrote:
organics dechlor chlorinated water. has anyone just tried running
city water thru peat moss? Ingrid

I don't know! Since it is actually Chloramine in city water you want
to deal with! I don't know what peat moss would do!

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wrote:

organics dechlor chlorinated water. has anyone just tried running
city water thru peat moss? Ingrid

The problem with chlorine and organics is that the combination produces
trihalomethanes (THM) - which are pretty bad for people. Does anybody know
what they do to fish? (Apparently somebody does - the EPA has a report
about the effects on Striped Bass at
http://oaspub.epa.gov/eims/eimsapi.d...ail?deid=40377 but I don't want
to spend $17.50 to get it only to find it doesn't mean anything to me - I
wasn't even sure about the term "Hepatocyte").

In drinking water systems, the aim is to filter practically all the organics
out of the water before treating with chlorine, to keep the THM levels
within EPA limits. If the THMs are a problem with fish, you really don't
want to use an organic filter to remove chlorine. [damn, I met an expert
in this sort of stuff two weeks ago - but did I know then I needed to get
his email address?]
--
derek
- Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated
moderators.

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In article .com,
chatnoir wrote:

On Jul 9, 11:22 pm, wrote:
organics dechlor chlorinated water. has anyone just tried running
city water thru peat moss? Ingrid

I don't know! Since it is actually Chloramine in city water you want
to deal with! I don't know what peat moss would do!

Yes, I think most cities are using chloramine instead of chlorine these
days.

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On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:28:08 CST, Derek Broughton
wrote:

The problem with chlorine and organics is that the combination produces
trihalomethanes (THM) - which are pretty bad for people. Does anybody know
what they do to fish? (Apparently somebody does - the EPA has a report
about the effects on Striped Bass at
http://oaspub.epa.gov/eims/eimsapi.d...ail?deid=40377 but I don't want
to spend $17.50 to get it only to find it doesn't mean anything to me - I
wasn't even sure about the term "Hepatocyte").

In drinking water systems, the aim is to filter practically all the organics
out of the water before treating with chlorine, to keep the THM levels
within EPA limits. If the THMs are a problem with fish, you really don't
want to use an organic filter to remove chlorine. [damn, I met an expert
in this sort of stuff two weeks ago - but did I know then I needed to get
his email address?]

Hmmm, sounds like dechlor all the time might be wise when using tap water?
Usually for a top off we usually say don't worry, but the chlorine is
surely reacting to the organics in a pond system, thus creating this THM?
~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

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Me wrote:
The water level in the bottom tier of the pond has dropped some with
the heat down here in the Southeast. I want to put some more in but
not sure of the best way. Can I put the hose in the pond and pour the
water conditioner in all at the same time or do I need to put the
water and conditioner in something separate (a trash can?), let it sit
for a little while and then pour it into the pond?
My pond is only 650 gals. I have an 80 litre plastic container into which I
put dechlor, then spray water in. Then trickle feed from tap into pond.
--
ßôyþëtë
London, UK

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~ jan wrote:


Hmmm, sounds like dechlor all the time might be wise when using tap water?
Usually for a top off we usually say don't worry, but the chlorine is
surely reacting to the organics in a pond system, thus creating this THM?

Could be, but I don't have a clue how harmful THMs might be to fish, and how
much would be created from any given amount of chlorinated water. THMs
seem to be the latest trend in drinking water supply scares, but even for
people they're talking about long-term toxicity, not short term.
--
derek
- Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated
moderators.

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On Jul 10, 2:32 pm, ~ jan wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:28:08 CST, Derek Broughton
wrote:

The problem with chlorine and organics is that the combination produces
trihalomethanes (THM) - which are pretty bad for people. Does anybody know
what they do to fish? (Apparently somebody does - the EPA has a report
about the effects on Striped Bass at
http://oaspub.epa.gov/eims/eimsapi.d...?deid=40377but I don't want
to spend $17.50 to get it only to find it doesn't mean anything to me - I
wasn't even sure about the term "Hepatocyte").

In drinking water systems, the aim is to filter practically all the organics
out of the water before treating with chlorine, to keep the THM levels
within EPA limits. If the THMs are a problem with fish, you really don't
want to use an organic filter to remove chlorine. [damn, I met an expert
in this sort of stuff two weeks ago - but did I know then I needed to get
his email address?]

Hmmm, sounds like dechlor all the time might be wise when using tap water?
Usually for a top off we usually say don't worry, but the chlorine is
surely reacting to the organics in a pond system, thus creating this THM?
~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds:www.jjspond.us

What about this?:

http://tinyurl.com/2bn7a5

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"chatnoir" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jul 10, 2:32 pm, ~ jan wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:28:08 CST, Derek Broughton
wrote:

The problem with chlorine and organics is that the combination produces
trihalomethanes (THM) - which are pretty bad for people. Does anybody
know
what they do to fish? (Apparently somebody does - the EPA has a report
about the effects on Striped Bass at
http://oaspub.epa.gov/eims/eimsapi.d...?deid=40377but I don't want
to spend $17.50 to get it only to find it doesn't mean anything to me -
I
wasn't even sure about the term "Hepatocyte").

In drinking water systems, the aim is to filter practically all the
organics
out of the water before treating with chlorine, to keep the THM levels
within EPA limits. If the THMs are a problem with fish, you really
don't
want to use an organic filter to remove chlorine. [damn, I met an
expert
in this sort of stuff two weeks ago - but did I know then I needed to
get
his email address?]

Hmmm, sounds like dechlor all the time might be wise when using tap
water?
Usually for a top off we usually say don't worry, but the chlorine is
surely reacting to the organics in a pond system, thus creating this THM?
~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds:www.jjspond.us

What about this?:

http://tinyurl.com/2bn7a5

That type of filter should be listed for a certain number of gallons, rather
than a minimum time. It is a charcoal filter and when it is full, it is
full. The use for an aquarium for a year would be different than for a
10000 gallon pond. I have seen koi killed using a carbon filter that ran
out of steam. If you are going to use one of these, it would be a good idea
to have a chlorine test kit for a swimming pool to check the charcoal filter
to be sure that it is still working.

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What about this?:

http://tinyurl.com/2bn7a5

That type of filter should be listed for a certain number of gallons, rather
than a minimum time. It is a charcoal filter and when it is full, it is
full. The use for an aquarium for a year would be different than for a
10000 gallon pond. I have seen koi killed using a carbon filter that ran
out of steam. If you are going to use one of these, it would be a good idea
to have a chlorine test kit for a swimming pool to check the charcoal filter
to be sure that it is still working. RTB

The other KHA in our club has done amazing stuff with carbon filtration. He
purchased 2 whole house carbon filters with a spigot in between, he runs
them in parallel. He tests from the spigot periodically, but not a pool
tester, not really sensitive enough we found. If it registers, he pulls the
filter from the 2nd and puts it in the 1st and a new one goes in the 2nd.
That way he's always covered. This works really well for a large pond.

For the rest of us, the item chatnoir listed, is probably do able, but
again, one would have to test it, probably each time until they figured out
just how many gallons it can do. People have made these from supplies at
hardware stores cheaper, I believe. Seems one could run a couple of these
cylinder units similar to what my co-KHA did with the whole house units. By
using a quick disconnect to test the 1st cylinder periodically.

Wow, after typing that, it seems like a lot of work... I think I'll stick
with dechlor as long as my water supply sticks to chlorine. ;-) ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

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well here in Milwaukee the questionability of the drinking water is
always a damn fine reason to drink beer.......................

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:35:19 CST, Derek Broughton
Could be, but I don't have a clue how harmful THMs might be to fish, and how
much would be created from any given amount of chlorinated water. THMs
seem to be the latest trend in drinking water supply scares, but even for
people they're talking about long-term toxicity, not short term.

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On Jul 12, 10:57 am, wrote:
well here in Milwaukee the questionability of the drinking water is
always a damn fine reason to drink beer.......................

But do the fish swim well in the beer?



On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:35:19 CST, Derek Broughton

Could be, but I don't have a clue how harmful THMs might be to fish, and how
much would be created from any given amount of chlorinated water. THMs
seem to be the latest trend in drinking water supply scares, but even for
people they're talking about long-term toxicity, not short term.

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I just add city water with a sprinkler. I have done this for 20 years with no adverse affects. The less chemicals the better. Take care.

"Goldlexus" wrote in message news:7dtji.16$CJ4.10@trndny08...
We just use a hose and put de-clor. in at the same time. We top off about
once or twice a week depending on temps. Plus we may have a bit of a leak
somewhere. Anyway, we have koi and goldfish, with topping off a couple times
a week with the hose and de-clor. has not affected the water quality or the
fish. Pond is clear, fish are happy, pond is full :)

"Me" wrote in message
ups.com...
The water level in the bottom tier of the pond has dropped some with
the heat down here in the Southeast. I want to put some more in but
not sure of the best way. Can I put the hose in the pond and pour the
water conditioner in all at the same time or do I need to put the
water and conditioner in something separate (a trash can?), let it sit
for a little while and then pour it into the pond?

Topping off the pond
 

We just use a hose and put de-clor. in at the same time. We top off about
once or twice a week depending on temps.

"Me" wrote in message

The water level in the bottom tier of the pond has dropped some with
the heat down here in the Southeast. I want to put some more in but
not sure of the best way.

I have a 1/2" "water leveler" that slowly, but automatically, puts in
city water to compensate for evaporation which is truly significant
(4-5" drop in water level/day) here in VERY hot sunny AZ. When I
finally convert the pool into a pond, how do I figure out how much to
de-clor and when? I certainly don't want to wait for symptoms from my
fish. Will slowly adding the city water to the large stabilized 18000
gal pond be an insignificant addition?

BTW, our city water is so hard and full of 'stuff" that it is just short
of toxic. The Lime-Away gets used a lot to clean off the scum. And I
developed kidney stones.

Chip

Topping off the pond
 

"Chip" wrote in message ...

I have a 1/2" "water leveler" that slowly, but automatically, puts in city
water to compensate for evaporation which is truly significant (4-5" drop
in water level/day) here in VERY hot sunny AZ. When I finally convert the
pool into a pond, how do I figure out how much to de-clor and when? I
certainly don't want to wait for symptoms from my fish. Will slowly adding
the city water to the large stabilized 18000 gal pond be an insignificant
addition?

Chip

If you are adding that much water per day, then you need to find a way to
dechlor the water. The best way would be a carbon filter. It would be
advisable to have two carbon filters in series and test the water
periodically between the first and second to see when the filter has been
spent. There are chemical metering pumps that would allow you to introduce
a very small quantity of dechlor to the water as the flow is going to the
pond.

Topping off the pond
 

"Chip" wrote:


We just use a hose and put de-clor. in at the same time. We top off about
once or twice a week depending on temps.

"Me" wrote in message

The water level in the bottom tier of the pond has dropped some with
the heat down here in the Southeast. I want to put some more in but
not sure of the best way.

I have a 1/2" "water leveler" that slowly, but automatically, puts in
city water to compensate for evaporation which is truly significant
(4-5" drop in water level/day) here in VERY hot sunny AZ. When I
finally convert the pool into a pond, how do I figure out how much to
de-clor and when? I certainly don't want to wait for symptoms from my
fish. Will slowly adding the city water to the large stabilized 18000
gal pond be an insignificant addition?

BTW, our city water is so hard and full of 'stuff" that it is just short
of toxic. The Lime-Away gets used a lot to clean off the scum. And I
developed kidney stones.

Chip


I've attached a meter to my hose end and figure the volume from that. When
you know the gallons you just add that much dechlor.

I disconnected my "auto fill" last year. It broke and I didn't realize it.
Fortunately, I have a large pond and the filler wasn't spraying water, just
a steady drip. Now I always do it by hand.


San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Koi, Goldfish, and RES named Colombo.

My 800+ gal pond acccidently got drained to almost 1 ft of water a couple weeks ago. Stuck the hose in and filled it, and added a few 5 gallon buckets of mixed de-chlor and tap water every so often during the filling. Fish are fine, and seemed more lively after the water change.