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Our temperatures are finally cooling off in the
day from high 80s to mid 70s promised this
week.

So what fall pond work have you got planned,
or should be planning, or are actively avoiding?

DH has scouting stuff this weekend and next
then he is at the mercy of the Honey~Do list.

Remove much of the raccoon damage to the iris.
Remove rocks that are in the little frog bog that
were attempting to block the fish from entering
that didn't work.

k :-)
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Yep, many of our trees have already lost leaves, and many are turning as
well. I pulled the parrot's feather out, since the fish had unrooted it, and
put it in the aquarium in the house.. I had done that earlier, and we even
up with two baby salamanders!

With any luck, it'll winter ok in the aquarium.

The Pickerel went nuts this year.. I want to split both of them, since
they've gottem huge, and will do that once they start to show signs of
cooler temperature effects.


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Where are you at, Nome? Trees turning already?


Nope, Western NC in the mountains at 3,000 feet. Typically the mean
temperatures drop 5 degrees for every 1000 feet altitude gain. We had two
late freezes 2 weeks apart this spring, and then drought for the next 4
months. That's been VERY hard on all the plants here. We lost our japanese
maple, a evergreen tree (one of our christmas trees), and our dogwood. The
stream running through our property is TOTALLY dried up, and the creek
ajoining our property (usually 3-5 feet wide by a foot or so deep) is just
about gone as well.

For those reasons, leaves are just browning and falling off trees here..and
have been for the last 2-3 weeks. Normally in summer we can't see our
neighbors houses at all, and in winter, without th eleaves, can see then
clear as day. We noticed the last week in August we could already see one of
ther homes. Upside of course, is we literally only cut our grass and yard 3
total times this year! (and actually I'm in the process of doing the 3rd
cutting this week.) besause of full sun an dnow cloudy rainy days, algea has
been at an all time high, and the filter I built sprang a leak, so the pond
has been roughing it the last 4 or 5 weeks.

Oh.. our high today was 64 I think, the possible low tonight (and most of
the upcoming week) is 45 already!


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Michael,

We're wityh you. Here in Jackson, the crepe myrtle are dropping
leaves. Everything else is doing fine. The lilies are pushing fewer
leaves and will begin to have smaller ones once we have s serious dip
in temp. The hyacinth, however, are holding fine.

Jim

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Gareee:

Where are you at, Nome? Trees turning already?
We just had a cool front move in. The high temps are expected to come down
to the high 80s°F (low 30s°C) with low 70s°F at night. No trees turning
here.

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Only 55° here today, 45° now. Winter is on the way.

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Gareee:

Where are you at, Nome? Trees turning already?


Nope, Western NC in the mountains at 3,000 feet. Typically the mean
temperatures drop 5 degrees for every 1000 feet altitude gain. We had two
late freezes 2 weeks apart this spring, and then drought for the next 4
months. That's been VERY hard on all the plants here. We lost our
japanese maple, a evergreen tree (one of our christmas trees), and our
dogwood. The stream running through our property is TOTALLY dried up, and
the creek ajoining our property (usually 3-5 feet wide by a foot or so
deep) is just about gone as well.

For those reasons, leaves are just browning and falling off trees
here..and have been for the last 2-3 weeks. Normally in summer we can't
see our neighbors houses at all, and in winter, without th eleaves, can
see then clear as day. We noticed the last week in August we could
already see one of ther homes. Upside of course, is we literally only cut
our grass and yard 3 total times this year! (and actually I'm in the
process of doing the 3rd cutting this week.) besause of full sun an dnow
cloudy rainy days, algea has been at an all time high, and the filter I
built sprang a leak, so the pond has been roughing it the last 4 or 5
weeks.

Oh.. our high today was 64 I think, the possible low tonight (and most of
the upcoming week) is 45 already!


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The same thing is happening here in Louisville. I have a water maple in my
front yard that partially overhangs my house. With about 118 days over 90
degrees this summer, about 20 days of that over 100, the heat rising off
the roof combined with the drought conditions we experienced apparently
cooked the side of the tree closest to the house. All of the leaves on
that side of the tree have been falling of for the last five days. I'm
debating how bad the damage is, because it may have to come down. The oak
tree in the back yard appears to be fine.

George

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On Sep 15, 12:07 pm, k wrote:
Our temperatures are finally cooling off in the
day from high 80s to mid 70s promised this
week.

So what fall pond work have you got planned,
or should be planning, or are actively avoiding?

DH has scouting stuff this weekend and next
then he is at the mercy of the Honey~Do list.

Remove much of the raccoon damage to the iris.
Remove rocks that are in the little frog bog that
were attempting to block the fish from entering
that didn't work.

k :-)http://tinyurl.com/6bguh~ new pond keeper infohttp://tinyurl.com/yp64db~ slide show of pond


Yeah getting nice here too. I think it will only be 96 today. no more
100+ temps

Chris

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On Sep 15, 12:07 pm, k wrote:
Our temperatures are finally cooling off in the
day from high 80s to mid 70s promised this
week.

So what fall pond work have you got planned,
or should be planning, or are actively avoiding?

DH has scouting stuff this weekend and next
then he is at the mercy of the Honey~Do list.

Remove much of the raccoon damage to the iris.
Remove rocks that are in the little frog bog that
were attempting to block the fish from entering
that didn't work.

k :-)http://tinyurl.com/6bguh~ new pond keeper
infohttp://tinyurl.com/yp64db~ slide show of pond


Yeah getting nice here too. I think it will only be 96 today. no more
100+ temps

Chris


I gather you're somewhere in the South West? How do the fish survive with
such warm weather, is the pond in the shade?



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Yeah getting nice here too. I think it will only be 96 today. no more
100+ temps

Chris


I gather you're somewhere in the South West? How do the fish survive with
such warm weather, is the pond in the shade?


Yes, my memory isn't the best, when giving weather/environmental conditions
one needs to remind us where one is reporting from. ;-)

Here in South Central WA, same place as kathy, the weather is finally NICE!
The maple we girdled two summers ago has just about lost all it's leaves.
My DH got off easy, since most got mowed, or fell in the pond area (on the
net) where I had to clean them up. Any in the flowerbeds will become mulch
or wait till spring for clean up.

Currently fall chores are not upon me yet, but soon enough I'll be moving
plants inside and such, but not till next month. So I'm just maintaining.

I did do a major harvest of my mini Roma tomatoes today. Must have taken 10
lbs off one plant.... thankfully only have one plant! I am moving some
hardy pond plants, I had in decorative holeless pots on the patio, to the
lily pond to winter over. ~ jan
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I didn't want to hijack the Fall thread so started a new one when....

On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 GareeeŠ wrote:

Nope, Western NC in the mountains at 3,000 feet. Typically the mean
temperatures drop 5 degrees for every 1000 feet altitude gain. We had two
late freezes 2 weeks apart this spring, and then drought for the next 4
months. That's been VERY hard on all the plants here. We lost our japanese
maple, a evergreen tree (one of our christmas trees), and our dogwood. The
stream running through our property is TOTALLY dried up, and the creek
ajoining our property (usually 3-5 feet wide by a foot or so deep) is just
about gone as well.


I just have to ask.... is water really expensive there?

Here nothing but sage, cactus and rocks would survive without us watering,
sometimes daily, not to mention deep watering trees with a soaker hose that
might run 12 hours.

Regardless of drought years (so far) most of us are able to keep our plants
alive and happy.

I do know it is different in areas where mother nature normally does the
watering. IE, I can remember Seattle (the wetside of WA) as a kid going
there about August and the grass of most homes would be brown. That was
normal for them... yet my grandparents, who lived quite a few years in
Yakima was never brown when we visited, because they used a hose and
sprinkler. ~ jan
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On Sep 15, 1:07 pm, k wrote:
Our temperatures are finally cooling off in the
day from high 80s to mid 70s promised this
week.

So what fall pond work have you got planned,
or should be planning, or are actively avoiding?

DH has scouting stuff this weekend and next
then he is at the mercy of the Honey~Do list.

Remove much of the raccoon damage to the iris.
Remove rocks that are in the little frog bog that
were attempting to block the fish from entering
that didn't work.

k :-)http://tinyurl.com/6bguh~ new pond keeper infohttp://tinyurl.com/yp64db~ slide show of pond



Well, all the real activity in my pond, algae I guess, ended around
the Middle of August! No more constant changing if clogged filters!
So, I can concentrate on Raising the level of the pond on the North
and East Side! The clam bed I have have has all the gravel thrown out
again! I will have to fill it again! Not sure who or what is
throwing out all the gravel in the bed all the time!

Will decide whether to bring the Hibiscus moscheutos

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/982/

In this year or just take it out of the pond and mulch it and let it
winter as I did last year! Repair the Bird netting and the fence!
Take out the Milk crate shelves and clean out under them! They must
be at an angle or just collect gunk! Order some more fat-head minnows
for mosquito control! I could be wrong and maybe the Bull frog did
decimate them! But that large bullet shaped fish that partols the
bottom is my best bet! I wonder who planted that fish there and what
it is! Some kind of a joke by one of my friends I guess!

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The same thing is happening here in Louisville. I have a water maple in
my front yard that partially overhangs my house. With about 118 days over
90 degrees this summer, about 20 days of that over 100, the heat rising
off the roof combined with the drought conditions we experienced
apparently cooked the side of the tree closest to the house. All of the
leaves on that side of the tree have been falling of for the last five
days. I'm debating how bad the damage is, because it may have to come
down. The oak tree in the back yard appears to be fine.

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We've had the same thing here in Middle TN. Months of drought and 100+ heat
have killed many trees on our property. They turned brown in mid August and
the leaves started to drop. We've also lost many shrubs. There was too much
to water so we had to let them go.
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Where are you at, Nome? Trees turning already?
We just had a cool front move in. The high temps are expected to come down
to the high 80s°F (low 30s°C) with low 70s°F at night. No trees turning
here.

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Only 55° here today, 45° now. Winter is on the way.


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