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I am posting on behalf to the moderation team for rec.ponds.moderated
to invite all rpm posters to help fund the moderation software for the
group.

It costs $360 per year to rent the ReadyStump software that is used
to
moderate posts to RPM. The 2007 cost was covered by donations and it
is time to collect money to cover 2008.


All RPM posters and visitors are invited to contribute toward the
cost
of moderation. You can make donations in two ways:


1. by PayPal at the following location:
http://rpm.chipin.com/moderation-sof...pondsmoderated
This address will also show you the progress.

2. by sending a check to Dr. Jim Hurley, 5422 Clinton Blvd, Jackson,
MS 39209. Make a note on the bottom corner that it is for RPM
software.


We will keep you posted on progress toward our goal of $360.


Thank you.


Jim Hurley
for the RPM Moderation Team

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"Phyllis and Jim" wrote in message
ups.com...
I am posting on behalf to the moderation team for rec.ponds.moderated
to invite all rpm posters to help fund the moderation software for the
group.

It costs $360 per year to rent the ReadyStump software that is used
to
moderate posts to RPM. The 2007 cost was covered by donations and it
is time to collect money to cover 2008.


All RPM posters and visitors are invited to contribute toward the
cost
of moderation. You can make donations in two ways:


1. by PayPal at the following location:
http://rpm.chipin.com/moderation-sof...pondsmoderated
This address will also show you the progress.

2. by sending a check to Dr. Jim Hurley, 5422 Clinton Blvd, Jackson,
MS 39209. Make a note on the bottom corner that it is for RPM
software.


We will keep you posted on progress toward our goal of $360.


Thank you.


Jim Hurley
for the RPM Moderation Team

why?

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"jthread" wrote:
"Phyllis and Jim" wrote in message
[ . . . ]
All RPM posters and visitors are invited to contribute toward the
cost of moderation. You can make donations in two ways:

1. by PayPal at the following location:
http://rpm.chipin.com/moderation-sof...pondsmoderated
This address will also show you the progress.

2. by sending a check to Dr. Jim Hurley, 5422 Clinton Blvd, Jackson,
MS 39209. Make a note on the bottom corner that it is for RPM
software.
[ . . . ]

why?


Who should pay? Those who volunteer to do the moderation or those who
benefir from their efforts?

Although I've become primarily a lurker, I greatly appreciate the SPAM and
flame absence here. I don't follow every thread, but enjoy the ones I do,
and when I think I have something of value to add, I do. When I've asked a
question, I've gotten worthwhile answers or suggestions. I'm also keenly
aware that my encouragement played some small part in getting this group
started.

It's an INVITATION to contribute! Those who can't, or don't wish to, aren't
going to get blackballed. I can't afford to donate much, these days, but
I've mailed a nominal check to Jim. I thank the moderators for performing
yeoman duty to the betterment of ponding worldwide.

The soapbox is now empty. Next!

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I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
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Old 04-11-2007, 04:35 AM posted to rec.ponds.moderated
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Default Update: Paying for the moderation software for RPM - $90 donated

We have reached $90 toward the $360 we need for the moderation
software for 2008. Thanks to the donors. Whether or not you can help
out with the costs, ENJOY RPM!

Jim Hurley
Administrative moderator

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jthread wrote:
"Phyllis and Jim" wrote in message
ups.com...

I am posting on behalf to the moderation team for rec.ponds.moderated
to invite all rpm posters to help fund the moderation software for the
group.

It costs $360 per year to rent the ReadyStump software that is used
to
moderate posts to RPM. The 2007 cost was covered by donations and it
is time to collect money to cover 2008.


All RPM posters and visitors are invited to contribute toward the
cost
of moderation. You can make donations in two ways:


1. by PayPal at the following location:
http://rpm.chipin.com/moderation-sof...pondsmoderated
This address will also show you the progress.

2. by sending a check to Dr. Jim Hurley, 5422 Clinton Blvd, Jackson,
MS 39209. Make a note on the bottom corner that it is for RPM
software.


We will keep you posted on progress toward our goal of $360.


Thank you.


Jim Hurley
for the RPM Moderation Team


why?

rec.ponds.moderated runs on a hosted machine using software that costs
money - the annual cost of this is $360 - this money doesn't appear by
magic it needs to be funded. On set up the bulk of this money was
provided by the sponsor of this group and some of the moderators but it
is unfair to expect people who are giving their time to moderate this
group to also shoulder the financial burden of funding the group, which
is to the benefit of all wishing to discuss ponds and related
subjects.....contributions, however small, will help to keep this group
going mainly because every little helps.....it doesn't matter if the
donation is a few cents or mega dollars or nothing at all.....but if we
want the group to continue then some members do need to help out with
the financing of it......

Gill
Speaking for herself and not the RPM moderation team



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Gill Passman wrote:
jthread wrote:
"Phyllis and Jim" wrote in message
[ . . . ]
All RPM posters and visitors are invited to contribute toward the
cost of moderation. You can make donations in two ways:

1. by PayPal at the following location:
http://rpm.chipin.com/moderation-sof...pondsmoderated
This address will also show you the progress.

2. by sending a check to Dr. Jim Hurley, 5422 Clinton Blvd, Jackson,
MS 39209. Make a note on the bottom corner that it is for RPM
software.
[ . . . ]


And if, on the day of reckoning, we're still short, I'll pony up with a few
bucks more, and I'm sure I won't be alone.

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I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

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Default Update: Paying for the moderation software for RPM - $100 donated

We are now at $100 of the $360 needed for our moderation software.

You can check progress or donate at:
http://rpm.chipin.com/moderation-sof...pondsmoderated

Thanks to all who have donated thus far.

Whether you donate or not, ENJOY RPM.

Jim

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Default Moderation software for RPM - $210 donated

We are at $210 of the $360 we need. Thanks to all the contributors!

Jim

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On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:56:01 CST, Phyllis and Jim
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We are at $210 of the $360 we need. Thanks to all the contributors!

Jim


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We are at $230 of the $360 we need. Thanks to all the contributors!

Jim



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Phyllis and Jim wrote:
I am posting on behalf to the moderation team for rec.ponds.moderated
to invite all rpm posters to help fund the moderation software for the
group.

It costs $360 per year to rent the ReadyStump software that is used
to
moderate posts to RPM. The 2007 cost was covered by donations and it
is time to collect money to cover 2008.



Good googly moogly! :-0

This is just advice (but keep in mind, it's advice from someone who
moderates 2 other Usenet groups; rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs):
Find another software program!

People have been moderating newsgroups since the inception of Usenet,
and doing so with free tools. Now maybe, if I were really, REALLY
convinced that a particular tools was really good, I might see paying a
ONE TIME FEE for a program. But even that ONE TIME FEE would be less
than what this program is costing.


PS: I use a Listserv (tm - www.lsoft.com) email list as my moderation
tool. Besides being free (since the software is already hosted here at
my school), it allows non-usenet folks to participate by creating an
email mirror.

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On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:25:04 CST, Chris Barnes
wrote:

Phyllis and Jim wrote:
I am posting on behalf to the moderation team for rec.ponds.moderated
to invite all rpm posters to help fund the moderation software for the
group.

It costs $360 per year to rent the ReadyStump software that is used
to
moderate posts to RPM. The 2007 cost was covered by donations and it
is time to collect money to cover 2008.



Good googly moogly! :-0

This is just advice (but keep in mind, it's advice from someone who
moderates 2 other Usenet groups; rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs):
Find another software program!

People have been moderating newsgroups since the inception of Usenet,
and doing so with free tools. Now maybe, if I were really, REALLY
convinced that a particular tools was really good, I might see paying a
ONE TIME FEE for a program. But even that ONE TIME FEE would be less
than what this program is costing.


PS: I use a Listserv (tm - www.lsoft.com) email list as my moderation
tool. Besides being free (since the software is already hosted here at
my school), it allows non-usenet folks to participate by creating an
email mirror.


I realize moderation has been going on for some time, and that the
ideal solution would be to do the whole thing without paying a cent.
There are few programs out there that are suitable for a bunch of
folks moderating a newsgroup. The fact that there are several
moderators precludes using a system set up for only one. ISP
constraints and "lag time," or the time between when a post is made
and when in actually appears after moderation tend to work against any
email type scheme. These and some other constraints have pretty much
forced us to go with a web-based program for moderation. That
requires a "front end" to the program which can deal with most of the
spam and other stuff that a moderated group is subject to, the
moderation tool available to moderators, and an "aft end" to the
program which packages the approved posts into a format handled by
various servers for newsgroups. Furthermore, someone has to be
responsible for keeping the host machine(s) running, be technically
able to troubleshoot problems, and be able to handle the (sometimes
unfounded) complaints of its users. We have been able to find only
one (1) package that meets these requirements, and it is not free. If
you (or anyone) knows of a cheaper program, or perhaps a free program
and someone willing to host it, please write us about it. My email
address is at the bottom of this message, a post about the program to
rec.ponds.moderated will just as surely reach us, or email addresses
of other moderators are published here. I, for one, think it would be
a great idea, we just haven't been able to find one.


I speak only for myself, but I'll bet most (if not all) the other
moderators would indeed be very interested.
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Galen Hekhuis wrote:
PS: I use a Listserv (tm - www.lsoft.com) email list as my moderation
tool. Besides being free (since the software is already hosted here at
my school), it allows non-usenet folks to participate by creating an
email mirror.


I realize moderation has been going on for some time, and that the
ideal solution would be to do the whole thing without paying a cent.
There are few programs out there that are suitable for a bunch of
folks moderating a newsgroup. The fact that there are several
moderators precludes using a system set up for only one. ISP
constraints and "lag time," or the time between when a post is made
and when in actually appears after moderation tend to work against any
email type scheme.


Listserv has a web interface. I use it daily for the admin/moderator tasks.


PS: We have had multiple moderators on rec.hunting since 1992 (when I
took over) using Listserv.


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"Galen Hekhuis" wrote in message
...

(brevity snips)

My email
address is at the bottom of this message, a post about the program to
rec.ponds.moderated will just as surely reach us, or email addresses
of other moderators are published here. I, for one, think it would be
a great idea, we just haven't been able to find one.

===========================
You can ask about free moderation software on alt.comp.freeware.
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rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:52:01 CST, Chris Barnes
wrote:

Galen Hekhuis wrote:
PS: I use a Listserv (tm - www.lsoft.com) email list as my moderation
tool. Besides being free (since the software is already hosted here at
my school), it allows non-usenet folks to participate by creating an
email mirror.


I realize moderation has been going on for some time, and that the
ideal solution would be to do the whole thing without paying a cent.
There are few programs out there that are suitable for a bunch of
folks moderating a newsgroup. The fact that there are several
moderators precludes using a system set up for only one. ISP
constraints and "lag time," or the time between when a post is made
and when in actually appears after moderation tend to work against any
email type scheme.


Listserv has a web interface. I use it daily for the admin/moderator tasks.


PS: We have had multiple moderators on rec.hunting since 1992 (when I
took over) using Listserv.


Shucks, your server considers me to be a "spam source" if I email, so
this gets posted.

Far out! Who should I contact?
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