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Koi Food - what are you feeding your koi?
Greetings all!
I have fed my koi everything from Wardley's (when I first started my pond) to so called "custom blended" new england breeders special koi food. Now that I have re dug my pond (I think this is my 3rd dig - the 1st, a 2nd in 2006 and now my 3rd where I 'fix everything that was not exactly right and adding bottom drains) and am just about ready to refill it and put the koi back. However, I have some food that is 1 year old that has been stored in the basement and I have been reading that food more than 6 months old is useless. I am considering feeding my koi, many which are more than 12 inches long now, a 'better, higher quality' food such as (hype time - good marketing too!) Saki Hikari Koi food.or that like. What are many of you out there feeding your koi? I am convinced that food quality is important yet, I don't want to just set my few remaining dollars (after I buy gasoline for my car!) on fire with overly expensive food for my koi. I look forward to your insights and suggestions. Have a great weekend! W. Dale |
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Koi Food - what are you feeding your koi?
Hey, that's my question! ;-)
Look back to the thread started on 3/16/08, titled "What are You Feeding? Where are you Buying" Me. I'm currently serving Sho Koi. JB "W Dale" wrote in message ... Greetings all! I have fed my koi everything from Wardley's (when I first started my pond) to so called "custom blended" new england breeders special koi food. Now that I have re dug my pond (I think this is my 3rd dig - the 1st, a 2nd in 2006 and now my 3rd where I 'fix everything that was not exactly right and adding bottom drains) and am just about ready to refill it and put the koi back. However, I have some food that is 1 year old that has been stored in the basement and I have been reading that food more than 6 months old is useless. I am considering feeding my koi, many which are more than 12 inches long now, a 'better, higher quality' food such as (hype time - good marketing too!) Saki Hikari Koi food.or that like. What are many of you out there feeding your koi? I am convinced that food quality is important yet, I don't want to just set my few remaining dollars (after I buy gasoline for my car!) on fire with overly expensive food for my koi. I look forward to your insights and suggestions. Have a great weekend! W. Dale |
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Koi Food - what are you feeding your koi?
Though it may not be as good for them, Phyllis and I have used catfish
food for more than a decade. I gather it is growth oriented. Our koi and goldies seem to be thriving on it (and the bluegills in our acre pond). It is so cheap at $12/50 pound bag that we cannot see feeding other food to our $3.95 koi. Others will have more formal advice for you. Jim |
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Koi Food - what are you feeding your koi?
"W Dale" wrote in message ... What are many of you out there feeding your koi? I am convinced that food quality is important yet, I don't want to just set my few remaining dollars (after I buy gasoline for my car!) on fire with overly expensive food for my koi. =========================== My koi are thriving and breeding like rabbits on inexpensive trout and catfish chow with treats of kitten chow, bread, earthworms and a high meat canned dog food. They're not obese as some people fear they become on cheaper foods. Fish get obese when overfed. -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
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Koi Food - what are you feeding your koi?
"Phyllis and Jim" wrote in message ... Though it may not be as good for them, Phyllis and I have used catfish food for more than a decade. I gather it is growth oriented. Our koi and goldies seem to be thriving on it (and the bluegills in our acre pond). It is so cheap at $12/50 pound bag that we cannot see feeding other food to our $3.95 koi. Others will have more formal advice for you. Jim ====================== Mine have been thriving on catfish and trout food the same amount of time. I can't justify paying the outrageous prices they charge for koi food. -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
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Koi Food - what are you feeding your koi?
On May 30, 6:39 pm, "JB" wrote:
Hey, that's my question! ;-) Look back to the thread started on 3/16/08, titled "What are You Feeding? Where are you Buying" Me. I'm currently serving Sho Koi. JB "W Dale" wrote in message ... Greetings all! I have fed my koi everything from Wardley's (when I first started my pond) to so called "custom blended" new england breeders special koi food. Now that I have re dug my pond (I think this is my 3rd dig - the 1st, a 2nd in 2006 and now my 3rd where I 'fix everything that was not exactly right and adding bottom drains) and am just about ready to refill it and put the koi back. However, I have some food that is 1 year old that has been stored in the basement and I have been reading that food more than 6 months old is useless. I am considering feeding my koi, many which are more than 12 inches long now, a 'better, higher quality' food such as (hype time - good marketing too!) Saki Hikari Koi food.or that like. What are many of you out there feeding your koi? I am convinced that food quality is important yet, I don't want to just set my few remaining dollars (after I buy gasoline for my car!) on fire with overly expensive food for my koi. I look forward to your insights and suggestions. Have a great weekend! W. Dale Hey JB! I see your thread now! I really did look for something but I guess I over looked it. So sorry! I had heard about the trout food and all and was wondering what commercial koi food people are using and recommending. I have use much less expensive food too, but would like to try something different this year. I have even remodeled my pond this season and thought I would see how the koi like the new digs and what effect the so called higher quality commercial koi food may have on them. Thanks ! W. Dale |
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Koi Food - what are you feeding your koi?
On Fri, 30 May 2008 12:25:56 EDT, W Dale wrote:
However, I have some food that is 1 year old that has been stored in the basement Toss it. Now if it had been kept in a (non-auto defrost) freezer it probably would have still been good. I am considering feeding my koi, many which are more than 12 inches long now, a 'better, higher quality' food such as (hype time - good marketing too!) Saki Hikari Koi food.or that like. Shokoi here also. I keep all my koi food frozen and only take out what I'll use in about a week. I buy from Western Pond Supplies as they have free shipping if you spend over $60. I also like to feed Manda Fu, but the shipping was ridiculously high for something as light as packing peanuts. So I passed on that this year. I also feed thawed frozen peas. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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Koi Food - what are you feeding your koi?
On Sat, 31 May 2008 18:12:37 EDT, W Dale wrote:
Hey JB! I see your thread now! I really did look for something but I guess I over looked it. So sorry! I had heard about the trout food and all and was wondering what commercial koi food people are using and recommending. W. Dale IMO, It isn't the commercial food people you want to listen to, but people who have spent bucco bucks on an education around what is best for fish. http://www.akca.org/kht/nutrit.pdf ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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Koi Food - what are you feeding your koi?
GF and koi need protein for building mass and oil for energy. They dont digest or
utilize carbohydrates. Koi have "short" digestive tracts so carbs will not get broken down fast enough anyway before the digesting mass is expelled into the water. In the water it will continue to be broken down by bacteria and produce wastes. There are big differences in land based nutrients and those in the water. land plants also need a lot of cellulose to "stand up" whereas water based plants dont need much cellulose. this makes land based plant material difficult to digest. The same is true of proteins. Plants have no muscle, so they have very low levels of proteins and those they have are enzymes. The oil in land plants can withstand a lot of heat and desiccation, whereas "water based" oils quickly go rancid at room temp. So fish starts going "bad" very fast. Of course, a natural diet is much better for any animal. What GF and Koi eat are the tiny critters that live on the algae and bacteria in the pond. The daphnia, the rotifers, the little worms and insect larvae. I feed my koi freeze dried krill. the pacifica 1kilo size. it lasts for months with my 22 koi. they only get 1/2 cup a day. http://www.brineshrimpdirect.com/sea...n73t87mi728mt6 However, I am considering feeding them finely chopped raw shrimp and fish instead/in addition. Ingrid On Fri, 30 May 2008 12:25:56 EDT, W Dale wrote: However, I have some food that is 1 year old that has been stored in the basement and I have been reading that food more than 6 months old is useless. What are many of you out there feeding your koi? |
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Koi Food - what are you feeding your koi?
On Jun 1, 11:12 am, ~ jan wrote:
On Sat, 31 May 2008 18:12:37 EDT, W Dale wrote: Hey JB! I see your thread now! I really did look for something but I guess I over looked it. So sorry! I had heard about the trout food and all and was wondering what commercial koi food people are using and recommending. W. Dale IMO, It isn't the commercial food people you want to listen to, but people who have spent bucco bucks on an education around what is best for fish.http://www.akca.org/kht/nutrit.pdf ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds:www.jjspond.us True! Great article on food and koi in general! Thanks for sharing! W. Dale |
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