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I think I saw my koi and goldfish spawning this morning. A lot of tail
flipping near the surface. The last few mornings the pond has been covered
with white foam and looks almost oily. Would that be from the spawning?
Water feels and smells ok, so I don't think it is anything unnatural.
Carolyn


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I think I saw my koi and goldfish spawning this morning. A lot of tail
flipping near the surface. The last few mornings the pond has been covered
with white foam and looks almost oily. Would that be from the spawning?
Water feels and smells ok, so I don't think it is anything unnatural.
Carolyn

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It sure sounds like they spawned. Our koi spawned about a week ago and the
goldfish a few weeks before the koi.
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On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 10:19:52 EDT, "Henry & Carolyn"
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I think I saw my koi and goldfish spawning this morning. A lot of tail
flipping near the surface. The last few mornings the pond has been covered
with white foam and looks almost oily. Would that be from the spawning?
Water feels and smells ok, so I don't think it is anything unnatural.
Carolyn

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within the week, 20% if longer. ~ jan
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Splashing and white foam are pretty good indications. Have you enough
cover that any will make it? Parents munch eggs and eat fry.

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How many days do they keep going at it? I'm afraid they are gonna kill
themselves from exhaustion!!

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"Henry & Carolyn" wrote in message
netkent...
I think I saw my koi and goldfish spawning this morning. A lot of tail
flipping near the surface. The last few mornings the pond has been covered
with white foam and looks almost oily. Would that be from the spawning?
Water feels and smells ok, so I don't think it is anything unnatural.
Carolyn

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It sure sounds like they spawned. Our koi spawned about a week ago and the
goldfish a few weeks before the koi.
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rec.ponder since late 1996.
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Two things trigger spawning, increasing temperature in the pond and fresh water.
Ingrid

On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:18:15 EDT, "Henry & Carolyn" wrote:
How many days do they keep going at it? I'm afraid they are gonna kill
themselves from exhaustion!!


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How many days do they keep going at it? I'm afraid they are gonna kill
themselves from exhaustion!!

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Mine often spawn the entire day, tearing up plants and knocking off scales.
Sometimes I even see cuts on their heads. They will start at sunup and stop
right before sundown. By then the pond is a mess of foam and froth and has a
distinct "fishy" aroma. That's gone in 24 hours. Soon I see baby koi by the
hundreds.
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We did do a partial water change by emptying our rain barrels. Plus we have
had rain lately. There isn't a whole lot of cover for the babies because we
just redid the pond this spring. The pond is filled with rocks so I am
thinking there will be crevices for them to hide. Can't wait to see what we
get!

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I think I saw my koi and goldfish spawning this morning. A lot of tail
flipping near the surface. The last few mornings the pond has been covered
with white foam and looks almost oily. Would that be from the spawning?
Water feels and smells ok, so I don't think it is anything unnatural.
Carolyn

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within the week, 20% if longer. ~ jan
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While on the subject of spawning -
I have a small pond that has only one goldfish in it (as well as a bunch of
mosquito fish). This poor little guy (he is probably 2.5") is frantically
trying to swim up the output hose of my water pump. The reason he is the
only one in the pond is last year he chased the other 2 out of the pond to
their demise. None of my other fish do this. So do I put this guy in the
big pond with the much larger fish and hope they keep him in line, do I add
other fish to the smaller pond or do I just wait for the guy to wear himself
out and hopefully not do too much damage to himself before then?
Donna

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"Henry & Carolyn" wrote in message
netkent...
I think I saw my koi and goldfish spawning this morning. A lot of tail
flipping near the surface. The last few mornings the pond has been covered
with white foam and looks almost oily. Would that be from the spawning?
Water feels and smells ok, so I don't think it is anything unnatural.
Carolyn

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It sure sounds like they spawned. Our koi spawned about a week ago and the
goldfish a few weeks before the koi.
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rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 16:34:53 EDT, "D Kat" wrote:

While on the subject of spawning -
I have a small pond that has only one goldfish in it (as well as a bunch of
mosquito fish). This poor little guy (he is probably 2.5") is frantically
trying to swim up the output hose of my water pump. The reason he is the
only one in the pond is last year he chased the other 2 out of the pond to
their demise. None of my other fish do this. So do I put this guy in the
big pond with the much larger fish and hope they keep him in line, do I add
other fish to the smaller pond or do I just wait for the guy to wear himself
out and hopefully not do too much damage to himself before then?
Donna


Or... you could put a couple of bigger fish in with him?
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On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 16:34:53 EDT, "D Kat" wrote:

While on the subject of spawning -
I have a small pond that has only one goldfish in it (as well as a bunch
of
mosquito fish). This poor little guy (he is probably 2.5") is frantically
trying to swim up the output hose of my water pump. The reason he is the
only one in the pond is last year he chased the other 2 out of the pond to
their demise. None of my other fish do this. So do I put this guy in the
big pond with the much larger fish and hope they keep him in line, do I
add
other fish to the smaller pond or do I just wait for the guy to wear
himself
out and hopefully not do too much damage to himself before then?
Donna


Or... you could put a couple of bigger fish in with him?
~ jan
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Ponds: www.jjspond.us


The pond only measures 4'X6'X2.5' and is in full sun with the plants not
offering much shade at all yet. The pond with the large fish is probably 3
times that surface area and in full shade. Do you think a large fish would
cope with that transfer? I'm about as fish ignorant as they come. Donna


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The pond only measures 4'X6'X2.5' and is in full sun with the plants not
offering much shade at all yet.


What is the water temperature? He may be looking for cooler more oxygen
rich water.

The pond with the large fish is probably 3
times that surface area and in full shade. Do you think a large fish
would cope with that transfer? I'm about as fish ignorant as they come.
Donna


There are thousands of pages of information on pond fish on the Internet.
:-) I would move him to the shady pond.
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"D Kat" wrote in message
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The pond only measures 4'X6'X2.5' and is in full sun with the plants not
offering much shade at all yet.


What is the water temperature? He may be looking for cooler more oxygen
rich water.

The pond with the large fish is probably 3
times that surface area and in full shade. Do you think a large fish
would cope with that transfer? I'm about as fish ignorant as they come.
Donna


There are thousands of pages of information on pond fish on the Internet.
:-) I would move him to the shady pond.


Unfortunately I can't find the time to read those thousands of pages of
information - and it has to have something to stick to when you are taking
it in. When I'm not programming, potting, making glazes, gardening,
cleaning a house (which is an adventure with son home for a month), etc. I'm
reading through here and clayart to pick up the bits that will stick. One
of the reasons this room is so great is that you get condensed info, that is
to the point.

I don't 'raise' fish. I threw in some feeder fish over a decade ago to keep
the mosquitoes down. They are still with me. Right now I am dependent on
what you all throw at me. What I know about ponds I have picked up in here.
My first filter was the store bought variety and it was awful. Every week
the water flow would drop to a drip and I would be hosing it clean. I
learned from here NOT to rinse it out with hose water but to use pond water.
That improved things once the critters got growing but it still was a lot of
work. I then learned in here about lava rock in a bucket with your pump.
That is what I have been using ever since and while I don't have crystal
clear water all of the time my plants and fish are quite happy with what I
have. The raccoons used to regularly tear up my pond and kill my fish. I
learned from here that if you take the sides of your pond straight down they
can't get in to make messes and will leave things alone. I haven't had
raccoon problems since reshaping my ponds with this design. When I retire
and if I can afford someone to dig me a hole of a size big enough to have
koi then I will push myself into learning about fish and I will still be
woefully ignorant compared to most of those who know about fish here.

Now that I have spent way to much time rambling I must get back to work
(spent all morning getting the house back to livable, took care of cats and
dog, now must face debugging programming code... I would so rather be
reading about fish or throwing some pots). Donna


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Donna, the larger goldfish will handle it just fine going from a shady pond
to the sunny smaller one. Just float it in a bag if the temp is more than 5
degrees difference... in fact, since it is going from cold to warm, you
would probably be okay with a 10 degree difference. ~ jan
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thank you - i will do it early in morn when there is less temp diff - sorry
bout typing - hand in cast. will enjoy seeing larger fish putting junior in
place... donna
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Donna, the larger goldfish will handle it just fine going from a shady
pond
to the sunny smaller one. Just float it in a bag if the temp is more than
5
degrees difference... in fact, since it is going from cold to warm, you
would probably be okay with a 10 degree difference. ~ jan
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