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Ideas need for a DIY waterfall wier
I've pretty much decided to go with retaining blocks for my new waterfall.
I've considered a few designs, but think I'll use a wishing well design with a cascade out the side. But this presents three problems, one, I need a weir about 15" wide, 9" deep and about 4" high, two I need to contain the water in the well and three I need to attach the weir to the container. I was originally considering a round Whiskey barrel container, but the diameter is a bit small for my size. Plan B would be to cut off a 55 gallon drum, which is slightly big, but could probably be concealed. Plan C would just be to throw some liner in the well and use the top row of stones to hold it in place. But I don't know if a single row of stones would hold the liner? Each stone weighs about 20 pounds and there would be about 20 stones. So any ideas for a weir that I could attach to liner or a half barrel? I really have no good ideas for this one. .. |
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Ideas need for a DIY waterfall wier
"Bill Stock" wrote in message -Free... I've pretty much decided to go with retaining blocks for my new waterfall. I've considered a few designs, but think I'll use a wishing well design with a cascade out the side. But this presents three problems, one, I need a weir about 15" wide, 9" deep and about 4" high, two I need to contain the water in the well and three I need to attach the weir to the container. I was originally considering a round Whiskey barrel container, but the diameter is a bit small for my size. Plan B would be to cut off a 55 gallon drum, which is slightly big, but could probably be concealed. Plan C would just be to throw some liner in the well and use the top row of stones to hold it in place. But I don't know if a single row of stones would hold the liner? Each stone weighs about 20 pounds and there would be about 20 stones. So any ideas for a weir that I could attach to liner or a half barrel? I really have no good ideas for this one. Talking to myself again, but I had an idea for this in bed last night. I was thinking I could use a plastic garbage can sliced in half (or whatever gives me four inches) with most of the bottom cut out. I would then glue and bolt the bottom (with a small rim left) to my EPDM liner with a plastic washer the same shape as the rim of the pail.. It might take a bit of hunting to find a pail the right size, but at least I've got an idea. The other problem is that this may be too soft to support the water, but most of the weight should be carried by the retaining stones. Any insights or warnings on tis idea? |
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Think I might finally be over the hump...
Sorry I've been away so much.. just a busy assed year here.
I posted plan on an upper pondlet 2 years ago, and looks like that projec ts is almost done right. We had used crap liner 2 years to test things. Tore all that out this yea r, cleared the downflow stream of the smooth pebbles. I used a preformed kidney pond from lowe's for the upper pondlet/veggie filter, and we were lucky enough to spot water lettuce and hyacynth a mon th or so ago. Both have flourished well in a small krylon painted kids deco pond we also have. Our pickerl are just growing like weeds, and we had to repot all of them because they severly outgrew their planters. We've also got lizard's tong ue, and both purple and yello iris as well, also growing like weeds. I also h ad to split out water lillies into 10 plants or so as well this year. We're weekly seeing a floating mass on top of the pond, looks like someon e threw a handful or horse poop in th epond.. is that dead algae clumps? if so, then we've finally gotten enough surface coverae to combat the algae. I've got the pump in the main pond pumpin up to the kidney pondlet/veggie filter, and put all the water lettuce and hyacynth in the pondlet.. most of it's surface it covered now. In just a day, it's roots have gone from bare, to being debris covered, s o the plant filtration is working. We got some collapse on the edges of the kidney pond where the ground was n't packed enough below it, and we needed it at a angle to make sure we had enough downflow, but we didn't want a big gap at the upper edge of it without water, so we used great stuff, built up the edges and then painte d it semi gloss black to match the kidney pond itself, and it actually look s great. One side it already populated with strawberry plants that are grow ing like weeds, and the rest I watered down slightly, and then put a few whee l barrows of mulch on top of. It doesn't appear that we have any water loss from the pondlet, stream an d small water fall down into the main pond, but I'll wait a week or so befo re calling it a success. So are those floating clumps dead algae? I see them appear weekly, and ju st fish them out with the net. And yeah our pond is still way overstocked, but if things appear to be go ing well, I'm not messing with what appears to be working. -- Gareee© |
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Ideas need for a DIY waterfall wier
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:47:32 EDT, "Bill Stock" wrote:
I've pretty much decided to go with retaining blocks for my new waterfall. I've considered a few designs, but think I'll use a wishing well design with a cascade out the side. But this presents three problems, one, I need a weir about 15" wide, 9" deep and about 4" high, two I need to contain the water in the well and three I need to attach the weir to the container. This is pricey, but maybe you could find something like it to fit? http://www.thatpetplace.com/pet/prod/203182/product.web Cheaper ideas that might work: http://www.aqua-mart.com/atwaga.html Also, if the wishing well is wood, could you staple the liner on, or run it over the edge and cap it with wood rather than stone? I was originally considering a round Whiskey barrel container Now I have seen these bigger than whiskey barrel size at Lowe's/Home Depot type places with weirs. I think I'd like weirs that come built in due to leakage. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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Think I might finally be over the hump...
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:50:59 EDT, Gareee©
wrote: Sorry I've been away so much.. just a busy assed year here. I posted plan on an upper pondlet 2 years ago, and looks like that proje c ts is almost done right. We had used crap liner 2 years to test things. Tore all that out this ye a r, cleared the downflow stream of the smooth pebbles. I used a preformed kidney pond from lowe's for the upper pondlet/veggie filter, and we were lucky enough to spot water lettuce and hyacynth a mo n th or so ago. Both have flourished well in a small krylon painted kids deco pond we also have. Our pickerl are just growing like weeds, and we had to repot all of them because they severly outgrew their planters. We've also got lizard's ton g ue, and both purple and yello iris as well, also growing like weeds. I also h ad to split out water lillies into 10 plants or so as well this year. We're weekly seeing a floating mass on top of the pond, looks like someo n e threw a handful or horse poop in th epond.. is that dead algae clumps? i f so, then we've finally gotten enough surface coverae to combat the algae. I've got the pump in the main pond pumpin up to the kidney pondlet/veggi e filter, and put all the water lettuce and hyacynth in the pondlet.. most of it's surface it covered now. In just a day, it's roots have gone from bare, to being debris covered, s o the plant filtration is working. We got some collapse on the edges of the kidney pond where the ground wa s n't packed enough below it, and we needed it at a angle to make sure we had enough downflow, but we didn't want a big gap at the upper edge of it without water, so we used great stuff, built up the edges and then paint e d it semi gloss black to match the kidney pond itself, and it actually loo k s great. One side it already populated with strawberry plants that are gro w ing like weeds, and the rest I watered down slightly, and then put a few whe e l barrows of mulch on top of. It doesn't appear that we have any water loss from the pondlet, stream a n d small water fall down into the main pond, but I'll wait a week or so bef o re calling it a success. So are those floating clumps dead algae? I see them appear weekly, and j u st fish them out with the net. And yeah our pond is still way overstocked, but if things appear to be g o ing well, I'm not messing with what appears to be working. ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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Think I might finally be over the hump...
Ok, I think there was supposed to be a reply in there somewhere?
"~ jan" wrote in message ... On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:50:59 EDT, Gareee© wrote: Sorry I've been away so much.. just a busy assed year here. I posted plan on an upper pondlet 2 years ago, and looks like that proje c ts is almost done right. We had used crap liner 2 years to test things. Tore all that out this ye a r, cleared the downflow stream of the smooth pebbles. I used a preformed kidney pond from lowe's for the upper pondlet/veggie filter, and we were lucky enough to spot water lettuce and hyacynth a mo n th or so ago. Both have flourished well in a small krylon painted kids deco pond we also have. Our pickerl are just growing like weeds, and we had to repot all of them because they severly outgrew their planters. We've also got lizard's ton g ue, and both purple and yello iris as well, also growing like weeds. I also h ad to split out water lillies into 10 plants or so as well this year. We're weekly seeing a floating mass on top of the pond, looks like someo n e threw a handful or horse poop in th epond.. is that dead algae clumps? i f so, then we've finally gotten enough surface coverae to combat the algae. I've got the pump in the main pond pumpin up to the kidney pondlet/veggi e filter, and put all the water lettuce and hyacynth in the pondlet.. most of it's surface it covered now. In just a day, it's roots have gone from bare, to being debris covered, s o the plant filtration is working. We got some collapse on the edges of the kidney pond where the ground wa s n't packed enough below it, and we needed it at a angle to make sure we had enough downflow, but we didn't want a big gap at the upper edge of it without water, so we used great stuff, built up the edges and then paint e d it semi gloss black to match the kidney pond itself, and it actually loo k s great. One side it already populated with strawberry plants that are gro w ing like weeds, and the rest I watered down slightly, and then put a few whe e l barrows of mulch on top of. It doesn't appear that we have any water loss from the pondlet, stream a n d small water fall down into the main pond, but I'll wait a week or so bef o re calling it a success. So are those floating clumps dead algae? I see them appear weekly, and j u st fish them out with the net. And yeah our pond is still way overstocked, but if things appear to be g o ing well, I'm not messing with what appears to be working. ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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Think I might finally be over the hump...
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:36:43 EDT, Gareee©
wrote: Ok, I think there was supposed to be a reply in there somewhere? Sorry about that, now I know what happens when I hit the Back key when I think I'm typing and I'm not. At least, I assume that's what caused it to reply and send.... something odd happens, that's all I remember. ;-) Otherwise I really didn't have anything to say, but I'm glad the great stuff worked. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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Think I might finally be over the hump...
"~ jan" wrote in message
... On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:36:43 EDT, Gareee© wrote: Ok, I think there was supposed to be a reply in there somewhere? Sorry about that, now I know what happens when I hit the Back key when I think I'm typing and I'm not. At least, I assume that's what caused it to reply and send.... something odd happens, that's all I remember. ;-) Otherwise I really didn't have anything to say, but I'm glad the great stuff worked. ~ jan Thanks.. no one ever DID reply though.. was that floating gunk dead algae ? We had a small leak from the preformed pondlet, but sorted that easily without too much work. I'm relocating a gargoyle fountain over to the pondlet today, and because we've had very cool evenings the last two days (49 last night) the fish have been VERY frisky! Hard to tell if the floating debris in the main pond is all relocating itself to the pondlet veggie filter, or is the veggie filter isn't large enough.. the pond is 13x13x2-3 feet, and the veggie filter prefomred pond is 100-200 gallons I thnk. The water lettuce and WH on it are growing like mad, lots of baby water lettuce, and you can see the roots are all covere d in trapped water debis now. and our main pond iris, lillies, pickerel, and lizard's tongue are going like gangbusters! |
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Think I might finally be over the hump...
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:41:50 EDT, Gareee©
wrote: Thanks.. no one ever DID reply though.. was that floating gunk dead alga e? Sounds like it to me, but I've never see it like that in a pond where it is in big clumps resembling a horse nugget. I have seen it in lake that got a lot of farm run off. Things are growing well here... Just planted a big row of impatiens aroun d my weeping cherry. I am trying one in the floating island again hoping it will survive this time. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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OT: newsgroup problem
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:22:04 EDT, ~ jan wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:41:50 EDT, Gareee© wrote: Thanks.. no one ever DID reply though.. was that floating gunk dead alg a e? Sounds like it to me, but I've never see it like that in a pond where it is in big clumps resembling a horse nugget. I have seen it in lake that got a lot of farm run off. Things are growing well here... Just planted a big row of impatiens arou n d my weeping cherry. I am trying one in the floating island again hoping i t will survive this time. ~ jan Anyone tell me why my word wrap isn't working properly anymore? ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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