On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:39:37 EST, Phyllis and Jim
wrote:

Our canas stay outside all winter and do fine the next year. We get
some days in the teens, but generally have above freezing themps.

Jim

But are we talking tropical cannas in the pond or in the ground? Tropical
cannas in the pond, imo, should be brought in else they may rot over
winter. Here in Zone 7, it is a gamble that they may come back if left in
the ground.

Currently mine still haven't been knocked back enough to warrant coming in,
still waiting. ~ jan

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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

~ jan wrote:


But are we talking tropical cannas in the pond or in the ground? Tropical
cannas in the pond, imo, should be brought in else they may rot over
winter. Here in Zone 7, it is a gamble that they may come back if left in
the ground.

These are tropical cannas and they are in the pond. Like yours mine have
not died back yet.

Gill


Currently mine still haven't been knocked back enough to warrant coming in,
still waiting. ~ jan

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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

32oF

On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 10:53:22 EST, Galen Hekhuis wrote:
Zero over in Mobile? Celsius or Fahrenheit?

the water celery is highly resistant too. I have not had a lot of luck with getting
water cress to root. Maybe I will try some in water in a container to get it going
first. thanks. Ingrid

On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:07:32 EST, ~ jan wrote:
You know..... you might want to try water cress in your winter veggie
filter, it is very hardy down to freezing. In your warmed pond I bet it
would grow well.

wrote:

the water celery is highly resistant too. I have not had a lot of luck with
getting
water cress to root. Maybe I will try some in water in a container to get it
going
first. thanks. Ingrid

On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:07:32 EST, ~ jan wrote:
You know..... you might want to try water cress in your winter veggie
filter, it is very hardy down to freezing. In your warmed pond I bet it
would grow well.


I believe watercress is a 'day length' plant. Less sunshine and it dies
back.


San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Koi, Goldfish, and RES named Colombo.

I just Googled watercress. It likes wet feet and shade. Our summar
die back appears to be from the sun.

Jim

On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 16:30:05 EST, San Diego Joe wrote:

I believe watercress is a 'day length' plant. Less sunshine and it dies
back.
San Diego Joe

Someone must not informed mine of that, not only is it doing well, it is
where it gets no direct sun after mid-Oct. The stuff at the water's edge
does stay greener than the runners that moved more inland. I'll have to
watch it as winter processes.

Rain here and more rain.... well.... actually what many of you would call
drizzle, enough I can't get my last mowing done. s ~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

Everyone must be sleeping with their fishes. ;-)

Apparently there was a heron on my roof this morning, neighbor informed me.
Course everything is zipped up tight here now. Put the smaller pump in so
am now on total slow flow.

Did pretty much the last of the leaves today and cut the cannas down and
stowed them in the garage.

One thing I found out, debugging the taro does work as I didn't do it this
year and boy did the aphids thrive once brought in. To treat I got some
light weight clear plastic sheeting and a hanging no-pest-strip. Covered
the plants and hung the strip. They started dying within hours, dropping
into the water. I'm hoping leaving it on for 2 weeks will do in the ones
that are hatching and will hatch. Anyone have advice on that? Like could
the chemical being killing the eggs? I did read they don't make eggs
immediately after hatching, so I shouldn't have to worry about new eggs
from new hatchings as fast as this killed the adults.

Come Feb. if & when I see anything on the cannas I will probably do this
same thing, rather than treating the plants directly and worrying about
anything entering the ponds after the fact. I've never had a problem
probably due to the long time between treating and putting them in the
pond.... but no use taking chances. Next year I'll probably do this type
debugging while they're still on the patio. ~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

I like your no-pest-strip approach to the aphids.

Jim

On Nov 8, 4:30 pm, San Diego Joe wrote:
wrote:
the water celery is highly resistant too. I have not had a lot of lu
ck with
getting
water cress to root. Maybe I will try some in water in a container t
o get it
going
first. thanks. Ingrid

On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:07:32 EST, ~ jan wrote:
You know..... you might want to try water cress in your winter veggie
filter, it is very hardy down to freezing. In your warmed pond I bet i
t
would grow well.

I believe watercress is a 'day length' plant. Less sunshine and it dies
back.

San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Koi, Goldfish, and RES named Colombo.

All the plants in my pond are dormant now - all but the watercress.
It is looking beautiful! We've had frost and temps in the low
thirties but nothing lower so far. We even had a snow storm, that was
really unusual. Most of the leaves have fallen - just a few
struggling to hold on. That is rare for us the Japanese maple seems
to hold on forever, but not this year.
The watercress always seems to be the first plant in the Spring and
dies back in the heat here in Summer and then returns again in the
Fall. It works well to begin and end the water filtering for me.
Bonnie
NJ

"~ jan" wrote in message
...
Everyone must be sleeping with their fishes. ;-)
[snip]

Getting ready to move from TX to AL. Woods not far from new home, and
current house owner says wildlife is common, I suspect the kind that
likes to fish. The stock tank will go on the new home's back deck
(which I'm pretty sure is strong enough to hold 150 gal.) with a
well-anchored chicken wire cover! Where I live now there's not that
kind of problem, so I've been spoiled.

Gail
(currently) near San Antonio TX

it is lousy cold here this morning. it spat snow yesterday and there are bare traces
here and there. the pond is tucked in and 52 with the heater in. still havent tried
out the solar panel out at the dacha. sigh. Ingrid

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:06:02 EST, Bonnie NJ wrote:

All the plants in my pond are dormant now - all but the watercress.
Bonnie

Here too. My floating mesh baskets of it are nice and green, same with the
big one in the pre-filter. My sister gave me some water mint and I put it
in the basket of one, hoping it will survive the winter there. I had a
little sprig in my fountain birdbath for months and I guess the squirrels
finally decided to remove or eat it. :-( ~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:14:55 EST, "Gail Futoran"
wrote:

Getting ready to move from TX to AL. Woods not far from new home, and
current house owner says wildlife is common, I suspect the kind that
likes to fish. The stock tank will go on the new home's back deck
(which I'm pretty sure is strong enough to hold 150 gal.) with a
well-anchored chicken wire cover! Where I live now there's not that
kind of problem, so I've been spoiled.
Gail
(currently) near San Antonio TX

I managed not to move and got wildlife education this summer. Good idea on
the chicken wire, just make sure it is high enough above the water surface
or there may still be fishing going on.

Informed son that I'm ready for the hot wire to go around the waterfall
hill, now that the plants have died back they're digging in there again.
~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us