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Keeping duck out with electric fence?
Its the time of year again when a pair of mallard take up
residence on our pond. Looks very charming but they vandalise all the plants in baskets and eat all my frog and newt spawn. I am thinking about running a single strand of electric fence across the pond - they are certain to bump into it frequently - especially at night and this may deter them from visiting. But I dont want to find a dead duck in my pond. Anybody any experience of doing what I propose. The system I am interested in is described as " this unit will produce a pulsating, High Tension, low energy voltage of approx. 1000 Volts for up to 100 Metre spans. For electrically operated fences for smaller animals, poultry fences, pigs etc, or to keep foxes out". DAvy |
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Keeping duck out with electric fence?
Davy,
My condolences on the ducks. Lot's of discussion in the past on this subject. Here's a classic "duck" post: JB -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Ducks and Ponds Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 00:09:02 +1300 From: IAN Organization: Customer of Telecom Internet Services Newsgroups: rec.ponds References: We have a man-made pond and wondered if it is possible to buy baby duck to put at the pond, Wooah Tina... Don't rush into this duck thing. I have a Peking, its a beautiful white innocent thing that poops in unbelievable quantities. Never mind about a bio-filter, you are going to need a sewerage system suitable for a small town to deal with what this duck is going to do to your pond. would they stay or would they leave? No need to fret on this account - ducks never take the hint. Chuck `em it in the air and it'll come right back. Sure it will occasionally wander out onto the highway, but motorists would rather run off the road and kill all their passengers than hit a duck that's sitting looking right at them. Look closely at the general design of your average duck, notice that the cranium is small. It is my belief that if you could take all the duck brains in the world and combine them in a sort of super organic computer you would basically have a machine with a loose bowel and a vocabulary limited to: "quack". A duck is a natural born lobotomy. wondering if the cats if the neighborhood would bother them. Hell no, the neighborhood cats will not bother your duck, unless it is a duckling which you have just presented to your young daughter. Actually you will find the neighborhood cats will avoid close encounters with anything that looks like a duck. This is partly because cats dislike stepping in duck doo to get to their prey and partly because the duck thinks any passing cat must be its mother/sister/brother/mate. Even the staunchest Tomcat finds it unnerving to have to deal with this sort of thing and will generally go to extremes to avoid an embarrassing encounter. Would we need to put a fence around it? Sure, fence your duck, but it won't do you any good. You will still hear screeching tires on the road and the neighbors will still phone you up to say your duck is harassing their cat again. If you do get a duck be sure to turn on the lights at night before your walk across the lawn. One of the most unforgettable experiences you can have is tripping over a sleeping duck in the dark. Regards Ian Gill Westland New Zealand "Davy" wrote in message . 109.145... Its the time of year again when a pair of mallard take up residence on our pond. Looks very charming but they vandalise all the plants in baskets and eat all my frog and newt spawn. I am thinking about running a single strand of electric fence across the pond - they are certain to bump into it frequently - especially at night and this may deter them from visiting. But I dont want to find a dead duck in my pond. Anybody any experience of doing what I propose. The system I am interested in is described as " this unit will produce a pulsating, High Tension, low energy voltage of approx. 1000 Volts for up to 100 Metre spans. For electrically operated fences for smaller animals, poultry fences, pigs etc, or to keep foxes out". DAvy |
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Keeping duck out with electric fence?
Davy wrote:
Its the time of year again when a pair of mallard take up residence on our pond. Looks very charming but they vandalise all the plants in baskets and eat all my frog and newt spawn. I am thinking about running a single strand of electric fence across the pond - they are certain to bump into it frequently - especially at night and this may deter them from visiting. But I dont want to find a dead duck in my pond. Anybody any experience of doing what I propose. The system I am interested in is described as " this unit will produce a pulsating, High Tension, low energy voltage of approx. 1000 Volts for up to 100 Metre spans. For electrically operated fences for smaller animals, poultry fences, pigs etc, or to keep foxes out". DAvy 1st- I wouldn't be sure that they would "bump" into it. Animals have active senses to avoid such items. 2nd- that much voltage is nothing because combined with "low energy" means not many amps (which is what does the dirty). 3rd- strung across water which is an excellent conductor, if it ever drooped, might do the fish more harm than the ducks. My advice- don't! Chip |
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Keeping duck out with electric fence?
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 09:57:12 EST, Davy
wrote: Its the time of year again when a pair of mallard take up residence on our pond. Looks very charming but they vandalise all the plants in baskets and eat all my frog and newt spawn. I am thinking about running a single strand of electric fence across the pond - DAvy I think I'm with Chip, seems the current would go into the water as it passed thru the duck. If you located where it isn't freezing a motion sprinkler would do the trick. If freezing.... bird netting? ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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Keeping duck out with electric fence?
"Davy" wrote in message . 109.145... Its the time of year again when a pair of mallard take up residence on our pond. Looks very charming but they vandalise all the plants in baskets and eat all my frog and newt spawn. I am thinking about running a single strand of electric fence across the pond - they are certain to bump into it frequently - especially at night and this may deter them from visiting. But I dont want to find a dead duck in my pond. Anybody any experience of doing what I propose. The system I am interested in is described as " this unit will produce a pulsating, High Tension, low energy voltage of approx. 1000 Volts for up to 100 Metre spans. For electrically operated fences for smaller animals, poultry fences, pigs etc, or to keep foxes out". DAvy ====================== I wouldn't chance it. You don't want to harm other critters that are in your pond. Nets will keep them out year round. I was told a low fence will also, if close to the water edge. -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
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Keeping duck out with electric fence?
Jim put up a deer fence around our garden. It has a regular farm
electric fence pulser. It works wonderfully. If your ducks hit the wire, even they will get the idea that they should mess with it. Jim says he needs to get the deer fence in place before they know there are plants they would like in the garden. They would have no problem jumping over it! He teaches them about it with strips of tim foil with peanut butter on them. The deer lick them, jump about 5 ft up and 5 ft back! He says it does not harm them, but they remember as intensity facilitates memory! He has shocked himself (accidentally) so he knows what it feels like. Be sure the fence cannot get into the water. Phyllis |
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Keeping duck out with electric fence?
One thing I should mention regarding netting and ducks. This is from an
experience with the Demo Pond. There is a small rope fence around the perimeter of the pond to stop tots from just falling in. So we figured just attach the netting to the top of the posts. This kept taller plants from getting entangled just in case they started growing before we took it off. Well that didn't work, as the duck walked under the rope and into the pond. The next year we put the netting on top of the posts and down the sides. Due to needing extra netting to do this we used 2 sheets over lapped and zipped tied. Not sure what happened, since the pond is in a public area and the public is not always well behaved, there soon was a gap between the 2 sheets. The ducks actually dropped thru and then would fly straight up when spooked. Crafty little bas... birds. ;-) Not sure how the demo pond committee's plan worked last year. When I went for a visit the bird netting was on the surface in places and the plants were intertwine. I was just glad it wasn't MY problem any more. When you're done, you're done. ;-) ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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~ jan wrote in
: If you located where it isn't freezing a motion sprinkler would do Seem a bit cruel to me; wouldn't it make the ducks all wet? DAvy |
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Keeping duck out with electric fence?
~ jan wrote in
: One thing I should mention regarding netting and ducks. This is from an experience with the Demo Pond. There is a small rope fence around the perimeter of the pond to stop tots from just falling in. So we figured just attach the netting to the top of the posts. This kept taller plants from getting entangled just in case they started growing before we took it off. Well that didn't work, as the duck walked under the rope and into the pond. The next year we put the netting on top of the posts and down the sides. Due to needing extra netting to do this we used 2 sheets over lapped and zipped tied. Not sure what happened, since the pond is in a public area and the public is not always well behaved, there soon was a gap between the 2 sheets. The ducks actually dropped thru and then would fly straight up when spooked. Crafty little bas... birds. ;-) Thanks to those who suggested netting but last year I tried that and had many of the problems mentioned above. Not only that but it looked ugly and prevented me getting to the pond or even the path around. DAvy |
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Keeping duck out with electric fence?
if not netting stretched TAUT, then a water cannon.
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Thanks to those who suggested netting but last year I
tried that and had many of the problems mentioned above. Not only that but it looked ugly and prevented me getting to the pond or even the path around. DAvy Not a fan of nets either, at least not during the growing/ponding season. Usually though you don't have to leave on long to discourage ducks. The demo pond's was taken off once the irrigation canals were filled. So I went looking for this one thing that was a metal rod that swung over the pond periodically (or perhaps it was motion activated) and found this thing called a Daddi Long Legs: http://www.critterridders.com/birdscare.htm Perhaps you could put it on some float? As you scroll down other preventions are listed when I happened to think Swan Decoy. Seems Swans are area protective and ducks steer clear? ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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"JB" wrote in message ...
Davy, My condolences on the ducks. Lot's of discussion in the past on this subject. Here's a classic "duck" post: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Ducks and Ponds Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 00:09:02 +1300 From: IAN We have a man-made pond and wondered if it is possible to buy baby duck to put at the pond, Wooah Tina... Don't rush into this duck thing. I have a Peking, its a beautiful white innocent thing that poops in unbelievable quantities. Never mind about a bio-filter, you are going to need a sewerage system suitable for a small town to deal with what this duck is going to do to your pond. would they stay or would they leave? No need to fret on this account - ducks never take the hint. Chuck `em it in the air and it'll come right back. Sure it will occasionally wander out onto the highway, but motorists would rather run off the road and kill all their passengers than hit a duck that's sitting looking right at them. Look closely at the general design of your average duck, notice that the cranium is small. It is my belief that if you could take all the duck brains in the world and combine them in a sort of super organic computer you would basically have a machine with a loose bowel and a vocabulary limited to: "quack". A duck is a natural born lobotomy.--- Would we need to put a fence around it? Sure, fence your duck, but it won't do you any good. You will still hear screeching tires on the road and the neighbors will still phone you up to say your duck is harassing their cat again. -- Priceless!!! (knowing I'm over a week late, and some sense short!) Thank you so much for posting this. (By the way, racoons will kill ducks, but many might think that 'cure' is worse than the problem.) |
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i read the thread and i think bird netting method would be the best for u.. it will not hurt to duck in fact using electric fences... that would be danger for everyone for those do not no about that..
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