This was a new one for me. I do remember talking about it though in old RP.
One of my hubby's ex co-workers collects coffee cans, drills holes in the
plastic caps and then put moth balls in the cans. She then set the cans on
the outskirts of her property. Apparently this works. I've never heard of
it before. ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

I ahve heard of it. I have no idea if it works. Any documentation/

Jim

"~ jan" wrote in message
...
This was a new one for me. I do remember talking about it though in old

RP.
One of my hubby's ex co-workers collects coffee cans, drills holes in t
he
plastic caps and then put moth balls in the cans. She then set the cans
on
the outskirts of her property. Apparently this works. I've never heard
of
it before. ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

===============================
Why would that stop them if it's out in the open?
The fumes would blow away. The "outskirts" of her
property no less. I don't believe it. ;-)
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

"ReelMcKoi" wrote:


"~ jan" wrote in message
.. .
This was a new one for me. I do remember talking about it though in old

RP.
One of my hubby's ex co-workers collects coffee cans, drills holes in t
he
plastic caps and then put moth balls in the cans. She then set the cans
on
the outskirts of her property. Apparently this works. I've never heard
of
it before. ~ jan


Why would that stop them if it's out in the open?
The fumes would blow away. The "outskirts" of her
property no less. I don't believe it. ;-)

I'm a skeptic, too. But I spent a lot of time a week or two ago
reading about different products and there are lots of believers in
this one;
http://www.pestproducts.com/snakeaway1.htm

It uses naphthalene [mothballs] and sulphur and claims that it masks
other odors so snakes avoid the area because they can't smell their
dinner or danger.

The review that kept me from trying it was the guy who said it worked
great to keep snakes from around his pool---- but his kids wouldn't
go out there for 2 weeks after he applied it because the smell was too
strong.

So I guess I'll go with trap and relocate if my garter snakes get too
plentiful.

Jim

"Jim Elbrecht" wrote in message
...
"ReelMcKoi" wrote:


"~ jan" wrote in message
. ..
This was a new one for me. I do remember talking about it though in o
ld

RP.
One of my hubby's ex co-workers collects coffee cans, drills holes in
t
he
plastic caps and then put moth balls in the cans. She then set the ca
ns
on
the outskirts of her property. Apparently this works. I've never hear
d
of
it before. ~ jan


Why would that stop them if it's out in the open?
The fumes would blow away. The "outskirts" of her
property no less. I don't believe it. ;-)

I'm a skeptic, too. But I spent a lot of time a week or two ago
reading about different products and there are lots of believers in
this one;
http://www.pestproducts.com/snakeaway1.htm

That sounds like typical hokum to me. A sales pitch. Notice the
Universities names are not mentioned. And *WHO* are the naturalists,
conservationists and ecologists? Don't waste your money. Snakes didn't
survive for millions of years because they're easily put off or stupid. I

live
with a large number of them and have watched them slither right over line
s
of naphtha flakes, mothballs themselves and lines of stinky sulfur. If t
hey
smell a mothball or some flakes they skirt them and keep right on
going. They don't turn around and go back the way they came.


It uses naphthalene [mothballs] and sulphur and claims that it masks
other odors so snakes avoid the area because they can't smell their
dinner or danger.

Bullpippy. :-)


The review that kept me from trying it was the guy who said it worked
great to keep snakes from around his pool---- but his kids wouldn't
go out there for 2 weeks after he applied it because the smell was too
strong.

A guy told me she sprayed coyote urine around his pond and it kept snakes

away......


So I guess I'll go with trap and relocate if my garter snakes get too
plentiful.

That's the best way - if you can trap them. :-)

--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

I'm a skeptic, too. But I spent a lot of time a week or two ago
reading about different products and there are lots of believers in
this one;
http://www.pestproducts.com/snakeaway1.htm

It uses naphthalene [mothballs] and sulphur and claims that it masks
other odors so snakes avoid the area because they can't smell their
dinner or danger. Jim

Course snakes don't smell do they? Don't they taste the air with their
tongue or some such thing? (I'd look it up, but not in the mood to argue
about something I could really care less about, snakes are rare in my yard,
and other than a rattler, wouldn't terrify me.) But according to this lady,
who is terrified of snakes, it works. Believe it or not, I'm just saying...
;-) Maybe what really works is that she puts it in coffee cans. The snakes
go for a cup of Joe and turn around and slither off to Starbucks. :-D

And RM, didn't we determine the critters in your county... are well... just
odd. :-D ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

On Jun 10, 8:47 pm, "ReelMcKoi" wrote:
"Jim Elbrecht" wrote in message

...



"ReelMcKoi" wrote:

"~ jan" wrote in message
. ..
This was a new one for me. I do remember talking about it though in o
ld

RP.
One of my hubby's ex co-workers collects coffee cans, drills holes in
t
he
plastic caps and then put moth balls in the cans. She then set the ca
ns
on
the outskirts of her property. Apparently this works. I've never hear
d
of
it before. ~ jan

Why would that stop them if it's out in the open?
The fumes would blow away. The "outskirts" of her
property no less. I don't believe it. ;-)

I'm a skeptic, too. But I spent a lot of time a week or two ago
reading about different products and there are lots of believers in
this one;
http://www.pestproducts.com/snakeaway1.htm

That sounds like typical hokum to me. A sales pitch. Notice the
Universities names are not mentioned. And *WHO* are the naturalists,
conservationists and ecologists? Don't waste your money. Snakes didn't
survive for millions of years because they're easily put off or stupid. I

live
with a large number of them and have watched them slither right over line
s
of naphtha flakes, mothballs themselves and lines of stinky sulfur. If
t
hey
smell a mothball or some flakes they skirt them and keep right on
going. They don't turn around and go back the way they came.



It uses naphthalene [mothballs] and sulphur and claims that it masks
other odors so snakes avoid the area because they can't smell their
dinner or danger.

Bullpippy. :-)



The review that kept me from trying it was the guy who said it worked
great to keep snakes from around his pool---- but his kids wouldn't
go out there for 2 weeks after he applied it because the smell was too
strong.

A guy told me she sprayed coyote urine around his pond and it kept snakes

away......



So I guess I'll go with trap and relocate if my garter snakes get too
plentiful.

That's the best way - if you can trap them. :-)

--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

I tired coyote urine for racoons - and the only thing it kept away was
me!!!! Geez what a smell. (not to mention $$$)

"theilliniguy" wrote in message
...

I tired coyote urine for racoons - and the only thing it kept away was
me!!!! Geez what a smell. (not to mention $$$)

===================
There are loads of scams out there to get your
money. Snakes have to be one of the hardest things
to keep out of ponds.
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

"~ jan" wrote in message
...
I'm a skeptic, too. But I spent a lot of time a week or two ago
reading about different products and there are lots of believers in
this one;
http://www.pestproducts.com/snakeaway1.htm

It uses naphthalene [mothballs] and sulphur and claims that it masks
other odors so snakes avoid the area because they can't smell their
dinner or danger. Jim

Course snakes don't smell do they? Don't they taste the air with their
tongue or some such thing? (I'd look it up, but not in the mood to argu
e
about something I could really care less about, snakes are rare in my
yard,
and other than a rattler, wouldn't terrify me.) But according to this
lady,
who is terrified of snakes, it works. Believe it or not, I'm just
saying...
;-) Maybe what really works is that she puts it in coffee cans. The sna
kes
go for a cup of Joe and turn around and slither off to Starbucks. :-D

And RM, didn't we determine the critters in your county... are well...
just
odd. :-D ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us


====================
Taste it or smell it, they'd simply go around something
like Naphtha flakes as I saw them do with my own two
eyes. They don't turn around and go back the way they came.
And why would they? I never understood how anyone
would think they'd do that.

--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

In article ,
"ReelMcKoi" wrote:

"theilliniguy" wrote in message
...

I tired coyote urine for racoons - and the only thing it kept away was
me!!!! Geez what a smell. (not to mention $$$)

ffffff6
There are loads of scams out there to get your
money. Snakes have to be one of the hardest things
to keep out of ponds.

Avoid snake oil salesman.

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On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:37:55 EDT, "ReelMcKoi" wrote:

Taste it or smell it, they'd simply go around something
like Naphtha flakes as I saw them do with my own two
eyes. They don't turn around and go back the way they came.
And why would they? I never understood how anyone
would think they'd do that.

My guess, people who have had the opposite experience, such as this lady
has. ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

"~ jan" wrote

| On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:37:55 EDT, "ReelMcKoi" wrote:
|
| Taste it or smell it, they'd simply go around something
| like Naphtha flakes as I saw them do with my own two
| eyes. They don't turn around and go back the way they came.
| And why would they? I never understood how anyone
| would think they'd do that.
|
| My guess, people who have had the opposite experience, such as this lady
| has. ~ jan

Pardon my ignorance but why would I want to keep snakes away from my pond?

That is, if I had a pond... Mine is still in the planning stage... but I'm
really close to starting it. In the meantime I've been providing a small
pool just for tree frogs to breed... and they've taken advantage of it. The
pool is currently teeming with tads and I feed them daily - they get as many
slugs and snails and moths and other bugs as I can find, along with lots and
lots of leafy green stuff, with a liberal sprinkling of dry catfood (they go
nuts for this).

Last year after all the tadpoles had left the pool, and I was using the last
of the rainwater in it for the garden, one day I found five or six garden
snakes swimming in about 4-5" of clear water. They seemed quite anxious to
get out, so I caught them all and released them into the garden. These
snakes are so good at mole control that I want to encourage and protect
them. I'm sad to say that I occasionally kill one inadvertently while
mowing.

"Pat" wrote:

-snip-
Pardon my ignorance but why would I want to keep snakes away from my pond?

That is, if I had a pond... Mine is still in the planning stage... but I'm
really close to starting it. In the meantime I've been providing a small
pool just for tree frogs to breed...

That might be the primary reason. A snake or 2 is unavoidable, but
2 snakes can lead to 100s in a few months. That might threaten
your tree frog population.

Jim

On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 08:34:07 EDT, "Pat"
wrote:

Pardon my ignorance but why would I want to keep snakes away from my pond?

Some do eat fish, frogs & tadpoles, some are poisonous to people.

In the case of the lady my husband knows, she's terrified of all snakes,
doesn't have a pond, but doesn't want any snake in her yard. I believe she
is in a newer subdivision bordering the desert, so she's probably seen
mostly bull snakes and maybe rattlers, before she went with her
mothballs-in-a-can snake prevention. If it works for her... better than
killing them, imo. ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

"Pat" wrote in message
et...

"~ jan" wrote

| On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:37:55 EDT, "ReelMcKoi" wrote:
|
| Taste it or smell it, they'd simply go around something
| like Naphtha flakes as I saw them do with my own two
| eyes. They don't turn around and go back the way they came.
| And why would they? I never understood how anyone
| would think they'd do that.
|
| My guess, people who have had the opposite experience, such as this l
ady
| has. ~ jan

Pardon my ignorance but why would I want to keep snakes away from my po
nd?
=================
Brevity snip.

Snakes will eat fish, frogs, baby ducks etc. Some water snakes are
poisonous.
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö