Cold!
 

I think this is the first time since I got wireless thermometers that we've
gotten this cold (SW Washington State) without snow cover for insulation.
The lily pond that just has a 100 watt heater + bubbler is holding fairly
well close to 40F at the bottom.

The koi ponds, otoh, with slow moving water and a 1,000 watt heater is
slowly losing heat. The heater on a calm near freezing day will actually
drive the temp up to 40F before I turn it off to save power. Our current
temps are in the teens, much less w/wind chill (thus wind blowing any heat
away near the surface) and the temp is 34.7F for the koi! Brrr! ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

Cold!
 

We just had our first snow for the season and had our first freezes.
The temperature got down to 31 degrees. That seems to be pretty warm
for you Jan! The water hyacinths have died back and Jim will put the
plastic sheet over them as a minimal green house. Next year, they
will all wake up again.

Phyllis

Cold!
 

Phyllis and Jim wrote:
We just had our first snow for the season and had our first freezes.
The temperature got down to 31 degrees. That seems to be pretty warm
for you Jan! The water hyacinths have died back and Jim will put the
plastic sheet over them as a minimal green house. Next year, they
will all wake up again.

Phyllis

We are getting down to 2 degrees tonight and the pond is covered with
two feet of snow. Got the bubbler going for the air hole.

Mark

Cold!
 

On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:44:26 EST, Mark wrote:

Phyllis and Jim wrote:
We just had our first snow for the season and had our first freezes.
The temperature got down to 31 degrees. That seems to be pretty warm
for you Jan! The water hyacinths have died back and Jim will put the
plastic sheet over them as a minimal green house. Next year, they
will all wake up again.

Phyllis

We are getting down to 2 degrees tonight and the pond is covered with
two feet of snow. Got the bubbler going for the air hole.

Mark

Here in northern Florida it hasn't snowed, in fact, we haven't even
had a freeze yet, though it did get to 33 one night. As a mattter of
fact, I think this state is only one of two (Hawai'i being the other
one) that has no "bridge freezes before roadway" type of signs. I've
seen them in every other state.
..

Cold!
 

In article ,
Galen Hekhuis wrote:

On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:44:26 EST, Mark wrote:

Phyllis and Jim wrote:
We just had our first snow for the season and had our first freezes.
The temperature got down to 31 degrees. That seems to be pretty warm
for you Jan! The water hyacinths have died back and Jim will put the
plastic sheet over them as a minimal green house. Next year, they
will all wake up again.

Phyllis

We are getting down to 2 degrees tonight and the pond is covered with
two feet of snow. Got the bubbler going for the air hole.

Mark

Here in northern Florida it hasn't snowed, in fact, we haven't even
had a freeze yet, though it did get to 33 one night. As a mattter of
fact, I think this state is only one of two (Hawai'i being the other
one) that has no "bridge freezes before roadway" type of signs. I've
seen them in every other state.
.

Pond temp is still in the 50s- 60s here in Ventura County, CA near the
beach. Chilly at night now, into the high 40s a few nights.

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Cold!
 

Our cold spell has continued to drag on, I'm not sure when we were last
above the freezing point, day or night. The koi pond has dropped close to
33F (though it may be reading 2 degrees low). Today it is up to 33.6F, so
an actual gain. I put some solid covers on top of the screens, but they
don't cover near enough. I'm sure the utility wheel is going round & round
and I hope my old stock tank heater doesn't poop out. I do have another,
but who wants to go out in this cold and deal with that?! Good thing I've
gone to almost all LED Xmas lights.

Lily pond down to 38.5F. I think the last 3 nights we been between 3 to 5
degrees as the lows around the house, before that I saw a high low of 10F.
Around town negative numbers have been reported. All w/o snow cover. I'm
thinking my roses are really going to take a hit this year and I wonder
what else will show winter damage when spring comes? ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

Cold!
 

We got snow today, woo hoo, a bit of insulation on the screens now. Water
temp up to 36.1F! Outside temp up to 24F. I have a nice ice tunnel where
the water enters the top pond at the surface. Bet it melts by morning.
Pretty cool looking, wish I could have taken a picture but doubt it would
have shown thru the screening. Tunnel was about a foot long.

I hope everyone else's ponds are doing okay in the northern sections of the
country. ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

Cold!
 

~ jan wrote:

We got snow today, woo hoo, a bit of insulation on the screens now. Water
temp up to 36.1F! Outside temp up to 24F. I have a nice ice tunnel where
the water enters the top pond at the surface. Bet it melts by morning.
Pretty cool looking, wish I could have taken a picture but doubt it would
have shown thru the screening. Tunnel was about a foot long.

I hope everyone else's ponds are doing okay in the northern sections of the
country. ~ jan

This is my favorite season, appearance wise. All the stuff I
haven't finished is covered by 6" of snow- and the little pond looks
different every time I look out.

It got down to 8degrees last night so I've got a couple inches of ice
on most of it now- but where the waterfall comes in it carves a
varying pattern depending on how much sun there is to warm things up.

I had left a rock at the base of the falls to get rinsed off and
forgotten it. Now it gets splashed on and grows a huge helmet of ice-
and splits the 'thaw-line' two ways. I like when my
forgetfulness/laziness improves my view.g

I should put a digital thermometer in my pond-- have you mentioned
what you have in yours?

Jim

Cold!
 

On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:25:04 EST, ~ jan wrote:

We got snow today, woo hoo, a bit of insulation on the screens now. Water
temp up to 36.1F! Outside temp up to 24F. I have a nice ice tunnel where
the water enters the top pond at the surface. Bet it melts by morning.
Pretty cool looking, wish I could have taken a picture but doubt it would
have shown thru the screening. Tunnel was about a foot long.

I hope everyone else's ponds are doing okay in the northern sections of the
country. ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

Wow. We got almost an inch and a half of rain yesterday. That's
almost as much as we got all last month. I'm extatic. That's over 3
inches already this month and December isn't half over. The frogs
sure are happy, and they aren't being shy about expressing themselves,
either.
..

Cold!
 

~ jan wrote:
We got snow today, woo hoo, a bit of insulation on the screens now. Water
temp up to 36.1F! Outside temp up to 24F. I have a nice ice tunnel where
the water enters the top pond at the surface. Bet it melts by morning.
Pretty cool looking, wish I could have taken a picture but doubt it would
have shown thru the screening. Tunnel was about a foot long.

I hope everyone else's ponds are doing okay in the northern sections of the
country. ~ jan

We're finally getting snow today, and it's quite a lot by our standards.
It should bring the ambient temp. here up a few degrees and that's
good. The hard freeze was beginning to worry me.

Cold!
 

Ace hardware has a thermometer set that includes a remote, on-a-wire
waterproof sensor. Placed next to the pond, that lets us read both an
air temp and a water temp...from inside!

Early Christmas gift for Phyllis?

Jim

Cold!
 

On 14 déc, 20:42, Phyllis and Jim wrote:
Ace hardware has a thermometer set that includes a remote, on-a-wire
waterproof sensor. Placed next to the pond, that lets us read both an
air temp and a water temp...from inside!

Early Christmas gift for Phyllis?

Jim

Hi,
I would also love that type of thermometer. Can you tell me the brand
so I can look for it in my area?
Here in Ottawa Canada, my pond is completely snowed under except for a
two by two feet hole where my bubbler is. I have been piling snow on
the pond for the last week (we have been getting quite a lot), hoping
it will insulate it as I have left koi and water lilies in the bottom
(2 feet deep). It is the first winter for the pond and already I can't
wait for spring to see what will survive the winter. Right now, I'm
very envious of all of you who get to enjoy your ponds year long!
Martine

Cold!
 

This week's light snow enabled me to see thousands
of little birdy footprints around the hole in the ice. Some
squirrel prints in there too.
I was out of town when it got really cold so had to
have Dear Daughter rummage around in the shed and
give her instructions over phone.

kathy :-)

Cold!
 

I will take a look tomorrow.

Want one for about $10 plus postage? If they have one left, I would
get it for you.

Jim

Cold!
 

Well covered my pond finally this last Saturday. Went out to check the temp on the
pond Monday (went from 42 to 46 in 1 day) and found my first dead koi in 8 or 9
years. used 2 different ammonia kits, nothing. too cold to do much of anything at
all. The koi was too far gone to do a necropsy on it. bummer. Ingrid
Somewhere between zone 5 and 6 tucked along the shore of Lake Michigan
on the council grounds of the Fox, Mascouten, Potawatomi, and Winnebago

Cold!
 

The data on the thermometer is: Taylor Wireless Weatherguide System
with remote sensor, Item # 1524, SKU 7778401524 7. They had it on
sale at Ace Hardware.

Cold!
 

On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:52:59 EST, Jim Elbrecht wrote:

I should put a digital thermometer in my pond-- have you mentioned
what you have in yours?

Jim

I have a Springfield, but apparently it is hard now to find long wired
probes? The probe goes in the pond and hooks to 1 unit and then it is
wireless to the unit in the house. Apparently one has to buy an actual
"pond" one and you know how that adds to the price and the probe wire isn't
very long, like 3 feet. If you want to know what the bottom temp is, and
your pond is 3' or more that means the sensor is right at the edge of the
pond, not a good place for it to be. ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

Cold!
 

Cool, how long is the wire? What's the brand? ~ jan


Ace hardware has a thermometer set that includes a remote, on-a-wire
waterproof sensor. Placed next to the pond, that lets us read both an
air temp and a water temp...from inside!

Early Christmas gift for Phyllis?

Jim
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

Cold!
 

Hiya Ingrid! :-) Have the temps been that moderate there?

We often say they sometimes died for no apparent reason. Better that then
finding them 1/2 alive and going thru all the stress of trying to save them
only to have them die anyway... imho.

I have a question, does koi pox go away when the temps get real cold?
Noticed it on one koi this fall, one I've had for several years. Got a peek
the other day and didn't see them (can't say it was the best peek) so I
might be mistaken. ~ jan

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:15:18 EST, wrote:

Well covered my pond finally this last Saturday. Went out to check the temp on the
pond Monday (went from 42 to 46 in 1 day) and found my first dead koi in 8 or 9
years. used 2 different ammonia kits, nothing. too cold to do much of anything at
all. The koi was too far gone to do a necropsy on it. bummer. Ingrid
Somewhere between zone 5 and 6 tucked along the shore of Lake Michigan
on the council grounds of the Fox, Mascouten, Potawatomi, and Winnebago
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

Cold!
 

On 16 déc, 07:59, Phyllis and Jim wrote:
I will take a look tomorrow.

Want one for about $10 plus postage? If they have one left, I would
get it for you.

Jim

Yes, I want one! I will mail you a check if you can get one.
Martine

Cold!
 

On 17 déc, 10:58, ~ jan wrote:
Hiya Ingrid! :-) Have the temps been that moderate there?

We often say they sometimes died for no apparent reason. Better that then
finding them 1/2 alive and going thru all the stress of trying to save th
em
only to have them die anyway... imho.

I have a question, does koi pox go away when the temps get real cold?
Noticed it on one koi this fall, one I've had for several years. Got a pe
ek
the other day and didn't see them (can't say it was the best peek) so I
might be mistaken. ~ jan

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:15:18 EST, wrote:
Well covered my pond finally this last Saturday. Went out to check th
e temp on the
pond Monday (went from 42 to 46 in 1 day) and found my first dead koi in
8 or 9
years. used 2 different ammonia kits, nothing. too cold to do much
of anything at
all. The koi was too far gone to do a necropsy on it. bummer. I
ngrid
Somewhere between zone 5 and 6 tucked along the shore of Lake Michigan
on the council grounds of the Fox, Mascouten, Potawatomi, and Winnebago

------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds:www.jjspond.us

Well, we have been having a really cold spell (minus 20 for the last
three days!). The hole in the pond got completly covered over. This
morning, I went out with the pick and opened up the whole and.... fell
through the ice! Luckily, I had my husband's boots and so was not in
my little suede boots that would have become blocks of ice! :)
But the good news is that at least, the pond is not freezing up, the
snow I keep piling on top must help. I have a feeling I will have to
keep picking at the hole to keep it open all winter. Just hope I don't
poke a whole in my liner!
Jim, if you can get a thermomether, I will very gladly send you a
check for it.
Martine

Cold!
 

" wrote:

-snip-

Well, we have been having a really cold spell (minus 20 for the last
three days!).

I think if I lived north of the border I'd use F in the winter. It
would warm you up 16 degrees.g

The hole in the pond got completly covered over. This
morning, I went out with the pick and opened up the whole and.... fell
through the ice!

Aside from the dangers of falling through & poking a hole in your
liner- I read somewhere that pounding on the ice would harm the fish.
Any fishkeepers care to comment on that?

My little pond is only about 200 gallons and the 1000w stock tank
heater I float in it is overkill- but I only use it when it is going
below 15F [-10C] for a few days running with no daytime thaw.
Otherwise the heat from the pump keeps things flowing.

For you southern folks- and folks who 'winterize' their ponds and pull
the pumps, I took a few photos today to show you what you're missing.
http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/l...%20Pug%20Pond/

It is ever-changing sights like these that keep us snowbirds from all
running south.

Jim

Cold!
 

Aside from the dangers of falling through & poking a hole in your
liner- I read somewhere that pounding on the ice would harm the fish.
Any fishkeepers care to comment on that?

Yes, that is my understanding. Just like depth charges going off around a
submarine so I've heard.

For you southern folks- and folks who 'winterize' their ponds and pull
the pumps, I took a few photos today to show you what you're missing.
http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/l...%20Pug%20Pond/

Great pics Jim! The problem with screens, I can't see the surface like
that. We have warmed up into the low 40's and staying above freezing at
night. Today I went out and checked the lily pond for the first time in a
long while. Interestingly there appeared to be more thick ice around the
heater and bubbler than anywhere else. I do think that corner, if the area
gets any sun at all due to the 6 foot fence, doesn't get much due to
neighbor's ever green trees. ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

pounding on ice
 

fish have both very good ears and the lateral line which is exquisitely sensitive to
pressure. pounding on ice can kill the fish. the fastest easiest safest way to make
a hole in ice is a drill (and not an impact drill). Ingrid

On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:03:21 EST, "
wrote:
I went out with the pick and opened up the hole
Somewhere between zone 5 and 6 tucked along the shore of Lake Michigan
on the council grounds of the Fox, Mascouten, Potawatomi, and Winnebago

Cold!
 

It has been unusually mild this year, but I do have a 500 watt heater in the pond.

I dont think koi pox ever goes away. I have one with a good dose on his tail. It
doesnt seem to change with water temp. There seems to be an individual
susceptibility because none of my other fish have been infected. Ingrid

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:58:09 EST, ~ jan wrote:
Hiya Ingrid! :-) Have the temps been that moderate there?

I have a question, does koi pox go away when the temps get real cold?
Noticed it on one koi this fall, one I've had for several years. Got a peek
the other day and didn't see them (can't say it was the best peek) so I
might be mistaken. ~ jan
Somewhere between zone 5 and 6 tucked along the shore of Lake Michigan
on the council grounds of the Fox, Mascouten, Potawatomi, and Winnebago

pounding on ice
 

On 20 déc, 09:05, wrote:
fish have both very good ears and the lateral line which is exquisitely s
ensitive to
pressure. pounding on ice can kill the fish. the fastest easiest sa
fest way to make
a hole in ice is a drill (and not an impact drill). Ingrid

On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:03:21 EST, " martine.pet...
@uqo.ca
wrote:
I went out with the pick and opened up the hole
Somewhere between zone 5 and 6 tucked along the shore of Lake Michigan
on the council grounds of the Fox, Mascouten, Potawatomi, and Winnebago

Ok, you have me convinced! I'm putting away the pick and am going out
this morning to buy a heater. Right now, I only have the bubbler. This
morning, aging the hole is completly covered. I can see the bubbles
which means the ice is not very thick but I better do something before
it's too late!
M.

Cold!
 

Calling for the coldest weather in 24+ years in central Arkansas on Thursday
and Friday: single digits each night and below zero further north. Brrrrrr!
I've not had a pond in this type weather before. I'm thinking about placing
a large tarp over the pond for these two days to try and hold in some warmth
and keep things from freezing up. 3,000 gallon pond, tear drop shaped 12 X
20.


"~ jan" wrote in message
...
I think this is the first time since I got wireless thermometers that we've
gotten this cold (SW Washington State) without snow cover for insulation.
The lily pond that just has a 100 watt heater + bubbler is holding fairly
well close to 40F at the bottom.

The koi ponds, otoh, with slow moving water and a 1,000 watt heater is
slowly losing heat. The heater on a calm near freezing day will actually
drive the temp up to 40F before I turn it off to save power. Our current
temps are in the teens, much less w/wind chill (thus wind blowing any heat
away near the surface) and the temp is 34.7F for the koi! Brrr! ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

Cold!
 

On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 18:45:21 EST, "JB" wrote:

Calling for the coldest weather in 24+ years in central Arkansas on Thursday
and Friday: single digits each night and below zero further north. Brrrrrr!
I've not had a pond in this type weather before. I'm thinking about placing
a large tarp over the pond for these two days to try and hold in some warmth
and keep things from freezing up. 3,000 gallon pond, tear drop shaped 12 X
20.

Hope you have more than a tarp, looks like the cold spell is holding. Air
bubbler may be needed. ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us