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Help Identify Pond Plant
I bought a house with a water garden and have found this group to be a
great resource in learning about the pond. The predominant plant in my pond is something that I have been unable to identify and can't find on any pond supply store's website. I have posted a picture he http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9885/77050248pa.jpg Can you help identify what it is? It is incredibly invasive and has a messy floating root system. thanks! |
wrote in message oups.com... I bought a house with a water garden and have found this group to be a great resource in learning about the pond. The predominant plant in my pond is something that I have been unable to identify and can't find on any pond supply store's website. I have posted a picture he http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9885/77050248pa.jpg Can you help identify what it is? It is incredibly invasive and has a messy floating root system. thanks! Bog Bean ? Peter |
I agree, looks like bog bean. kathy :-) www.blogfromthebog.com this week ~ shoot the heron? Pond 101 page for new pond keepers ~ http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html |
As 2pods posted, it sure looks like Bog Bean to me as well.......but
yours seems to be doing quite well floating or being in the water..MIne just sets there and does nothing......if its planted in any depth of water...however that same plant when planted right at the waters edge will grow pretty rapid, but still does not put any runners directly into the water, it keeps its growth confined to the bank..... On 26 Jul 2005 04:46:34 -0700, wrote: ===I bought a house with a water garden and have found this group to be a ===great resource in learning about the pond. The predominant plant in my ===pond is something that I have been unable to identify and can't find on ===any pond supply store's website. I have posted a picture he ===http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9885/77050248pa.jpg ===Can you help identify what it is? It is incredibly invasive and has a ===messy floating root system. ===thanks! ============================================== Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked! "The original frugal ponder" ~~~~ }((((o ~~~~~~ }{{{{o ~~~~~~~ }(((((o |
Thanks for the responses - after checking out your responses, I am
skeptical that it is "Bog Bean" for two reasons, although the leaves look to be a dead ringer: 1) Bog Bean is not Winter Hardy and I am living in Cleveland OH and I didn't introduce this plant this year. 2) Bog Bean is supposed to flower and while this has been growing like crazy, it has yet to flower (or even show signs of buds). A google search on the other sugestions "jabriolis" yieldid no results nor any spelling suggestions. Anyone have a picture of "jabriolis"? thanks! |
ahem.... jabriolis does not exist in
nature, just on the internet as 'Trollus extremus' Not all plants that are supposed to flower, will flower (usually as a way to teach us to be humble). And you may not have planted it but it may have come in as a hitchhiker on another plant. Right now I have a pond full of hornwort which came in as a tiny sprog in a lily pot. Also had a reed take over a deck tub full of cattails and did not plant that either. And then there was the bladderwort in the frogbog, I think that came via birdy. I think Nature does this on purpose to drive us crazy. The story of my life... |
"jabriolis" doesn't exist as a plant.
This word is referred to a troll to the pond group. wrote: Thanks for the responses - after checking out your responses, I am skeptical that it is "Bog Bean" for two reasons, although the leaves look to be a dead ringer: 1) Bog Bean is not Winter Hardy and I am living in Cleveland OH and I didn't introduce this plant this year. 2) Bog Bean is supposed to flower and while this has been growing like crazy, it has yet to flower (or even show signs of buds). A google search on the other sugestions "jabriolis" yieldid no results nor any spelling suggestions. Anyone have a picture of "jabriolis"? thanks! |
wrote in message oups.com... I bought a house with a water garden and have found this group to be a great resource in learning about the pond. The predominant plant in my pond is something that I have been unable to identify and can't find on any pond supply store's website. I have posted a picture he http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9885/77050248pa.jpg Can you help identify what it is? It is incredibly invasive and has a messy floating root system. thanks! ================================== Why not just remove 99% of it? Some of these pond plants will completely take over if you don't use some control measures. Parrots feather, water hyacinth and water lettuce are invasive weeds in my ponds/pools. Every few weeks I carry some off to the compost pile. If I didn't they would cover the entire surface of the water. -- McKoi.... the frugal ponder... EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED. My Pond Page http://tinyurl.com/cuq5b ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killf..._troll_faq.htm |
Let me clarify - it was there (alebeit in smaller quantities) at the
end of winter, and I haven't introduced any plants into the pond yet - just trying to get a handle on what I have going on. If Bog Bean wouldn't make it through a Cleveland Winter, then this is not bog bean. Anyone have another guess? Also, if I remove it completely, what are some suggestions for replacements - something that would give significant cover and live through a Cleveland winter - Zone 5 (and would it be too much to have it look nice too?). |
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wrote in message oups.com... Let me clarify - it was there (alebeit in smaller quantities) at the end of winter, and I haven't introduced any plants into the pond yet - just trying to get a handle on what I have going on. If Bog Bean wouldn't make it through a Cleveland Winter, then this is not bog bean. Anyone have another guess? Also, if I remove it completely, what are some suggestions for replacements - something that would give significant cover and live through a Cleveland winter - Zone 5 (and would it be too much to have it look nice too?). =================== If you want cover why not get a few hardy water lilies? With their large leaves they can cover quite an area and most have beautiful flowers as a bonus. -- McKoi.... the frugal ponder... EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED. My Pond Page http://tinyurl.com/cuq5b ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killf..._troll_faq.htm |
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Hi - thanks for your helpful reply! The Bog Bean is just floating - not
planted in any container, but after doing more reserach, I think that must be what I have. Now the question is, do I keep it or replace it with something that will be more attractive and less invasive. What should I introduce to the pond (hopefully not chemical) to reduce the nitrate level and encourage flowering? Derek Broughton wrote: wrote: Thanks for the responses - after checking out your responses, I am skeptical that it is "Bog Bean" for two reasons, although the leaves look to be a dead ringer: 1) Bog Bean is not Winter Hardy and I am living in Cleveland OH and I didn't introduce this plant this year. 2) Bog Bean is supposed to flower and while this has been growing like crazy, it has yet to flower (or even show signs of buds). Neither of those sounds like sufficient reason to disbelieve the id. How was it planted through the winter. If its roots were below the ice (and if you got as much snow as you usually do, you might not have had a lot of ice) it could survive. Flowering is often something that _doesn't_ happen when a plant is growing vigourously. If your pond is nitrate heavy, that can promote vegetative growth at the expense of flowers. A google search on the other sugestions "j*briolis" yieldid no results nor any spelling suggestions. Sorry, that was just one of our resident trolls - there's no such plant. Even if it had been a good joke, it's wasted on people who don't know the history around here. Anyone have a picture of "j*briolis"? You really didn't want to ask... -- derek |
I have water lilies where they can be, but 2/3 of the pond is too
shallow for water lillies (12" -16" depth) so I was hoping for something else that will winter over and provide a more attractive alternative to the bog bean. thanks! Reel Mckoi wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Let me clarify - it was there (alebeit in smaller quantities) at the end of winter, and I haven't introduced any plants into the pond yet - just trying to get a handle on what I have going on. If Bog Bean wouldn't make it through a Cleveland Winter, then this is not bog bean. Anyone have another guess? Also, if I remove it completely, what are some suggestions for replacements - something that would give significant cover and live through a Cleveland winter - Zone 5 (and would it be too much to have it look nice too?). =================== If you want cover why not get a few hardy water lilies? With their large leaves they can cover quite an area and most have beautiful flowers as a bonus. -- McKoi.... the frugal ponder... EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED. My Pond Page http://tinyurl.com/cuq5b ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killf..._troll_faq.htm |
wrote in message oups.com... Hi - thanks for your helpful reply! The Bog Bean is just floating - not planted in any container, but after doing more reserach, I think that must be what I have. Now the question is, do I keep it or replace it with something that will be more attractive and less invasive. What should I introduce to the pond (hopefully not chemical) to reduce the nitrate level and encourage flowering? I have two planted in pots (they did flower, but not for long. May through June), they are forever sending shoots right out into the pond. I just trim them back when they get long enough to annoy me :-) I currently have Brooklime (flowering now), Greater Spearwort (flowering now), Umbrella Palm, Parrot's Feather, Water Lettuce, Waterlilys, Flowering Rush, Starwort, Water Violet (flowering now), Water Hyacinth (never flowers here), Water Mint, Iris (flowering now). Touch wood, I've never had a nitrate problem. Plenty of plants should keep your nitrate down, and don't feed your fish to often. HTH Peter |
Bog bean is hardy to zone 3.
So it can not only survive your winters it positively enjoys them! k ;-) |
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Bog bean is hardy to zone 3.
It eats zone 5 winters for breakfast. (and if this info shows up twice, it is the fault of cybermonkeys, I tried this hours ago...) k |
I don't have any fish, and the pond is quite full of plants - it's
about 12' in diameter and has 7 hardy water lilies (currently flowering), 1/3 full of bog bean, a large yellow iris (already done for the year), 1/4 full of pickerel weed (in full bloom) and duckweed throughout. I don't think I can add any more plants and still see the water. I'll probably pull out the bog bean and replace it with something else which will flower. One suggestion was Creeping Primrose but I can't locate Zone information on it. Can anyone make any other suggestions for something which will provide good coverage and flower in Zone 5? Also, the garden centers in driving distance from me have dreadful pond stock; can any kind soul provide me with what I need? I'd be happy to cover costs. Thanks for all your help! 2pods wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Hi - thanks for your helpful reply! The Bog Bean is just floating - not planted in any container, but after doing more reserach, I think that must be what I have. Now the question is, do I keep it or replace it with something that will be more attractive and less invasive. What should I introduce to the pond (hopefully not chemical) to reduce the nitrate level and encourage flowering? I have two planted in pots (they did flower, but not for long. May through June), they are forever sending shoots right out into the pond. I just trim them back when they get long enough to annoy me :-) I currently have Brooklime (flowering now), Greater Spearwort (flowering now), Umbrella Palm, Parrot's Feather, Water Lettuce, Waterlilys, Flowering Rush, Starwort, Water Violet (flowering now), Water Hyacinth (never flowers here), Water Mint, Iris (flowering now). Touch wood, I've never had a nitrate problem. Plenty of plants should keep your nitrate down, and don't feed your fish to often. HTH Peter |
Creeping Jenny hardy down to zone 5.
k (I'd better see this sooner than six hours later!!) |
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wrote in message oups.com... does anyone have any extra they can supply me? Would do, but I assume you're in the US of A ? If so it's a no go as I'm in Scotland :-( Peter |
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