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New Orleans....
Some parts under 25 feet of water!
THAT'S what I call a POND! (But I'll probabably have worst green water issues then they will.) -- Gareee© (Gary Tabar Jr.) Gareee's Homepage: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine.../mainframe.htm |
"Gareee©" wrote in message ... Some parts under 25 feet of water! THAT'S what I call a POND! (But I'll probabably have worst green water issues then they will.) ======================== We've been watching this nightmare on CNN since yesterday. What a shame! This is the worst hurricane I can remember since Hurricane Andrew. This storm Katrina covers a larger area.... this is truly a disaster. It reached us last night with rain and high winds. The rain stopped but the winds are still strong and the sky is dark. -- McKoi.... frugal ponding since 1995... My Pond Page http://tinyurl.com/cuq5b ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
Reel Mckoi wrote:
"Gareee©" wrote in message ... Some parts under 25 feet of water! THAT'S what I call a POND! (But I'll probabably have worst green water issues then they will.) ======================== We've been watching this nightmare on CNN since yesterday. What a shame! This is the worst hurricane I can remember since Hurricane Andrew. This storm Katrina covers a larger area.... this is truly a disaster. As far as property damage is concerned, it's probably the worst hurricane in the US, ever. They're already expecting insurance payouts to beat Andrew (and that's with insurance companies generally refusing to cover flooding...) -- derek |
"Derek Broughton" wrote in message ... Reel Mckoi wrote: "Gareee©" wrote in message ... Some parts under 25 feet of water! THAT'S what I call a POND! (But I'll probabably have worst green water issues then they will.) ======================== We've been watching this nightmare on CNN since yesterday. What a shame! This is the worst hurricane I can remember since Hurricane Andrew. This storm Katrina covers a larger area.... this is truly a disaster. As far as property damage is concerned, it's probably the worst hurricane in the US, ever. They're already expecting insurance payouts to beat Andrew (and that's with insurance companies generally refusing to cover flooding...) -- derek ========================= If the insurance companies do not pay out there is going to be thousands unpon thousands of people left homeless. Wind damage here in TN is occurring now. We just had a sassafras tree blown down in our driveway.... -- McKoi.... frugal ponding since 1995... My Pond Page http://tinyurl.com/cuq5b ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
They've been talking on CNN about the city not even being inhabitable for a
month or so, and gas prices skyrocketing to $4 a gallon because of damage to off shore oil refining rigs. It does sound though like many things that contributed to the disaster were man made changes to the area.. straightening the Mississippi and loosing the solt that used to be deposited there, and mismanagement of the swamplands that had protected them in the past, to reclaim land for purchase and developement. It sounds like a combo of a bad weather situation, and a lot of really stupid people. Why people decided to try to "ride it out" is beyond me. I used to live in Florida, and got the hell out before Andrew hit. -- Gareee© (Gary Tabar Jr.) Gareee's Homepage: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine.../mainframe.htm |
"Gareee©" wrote in message ... They've been talking on CNN about the city not even being inhabitable for a month or so, and gas prices skyrocketing to $4 a gallon because of damage to off shore oil refining rigs. It does sound though like many things that contributed to the disaster were man made changes to the area.. straightening the Mississippi and loosing the solt that used to be deposited there, and mismanagement of the swamplands that had protected them in the past, to reclaim land for purchase and developement. $$ I don't understand why they even allow people to live in those flood prone areas. They do it here as well. When there are unusually heavy rains the people in low-lying areas are flooded out - over and over again. This flood prone land should be used as wildlife refuges, parks and whatnot that doesn't require regular buildings apt to be destroyed. It sounds like a combo of a bad weather situation, and a lot of really stupid people. $$ Or just thoughtless people. Why people decided to try to "ride it out" is beyond me. I used to live in Florida, and got the hell out before Andrew hit. $$ I saw on the News that some couldn't get out. They had no choice. I suppose their neighbors just took off and left them to fend for themselves. How sad....... -- McKoi.... frugal ponding since 1995... My Pond Page http://tinyurl.com/cuq5b ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
"Reel Mckoi" wrote in message
... $$ I saw on the News that some couldn't get out. They had no choice. I suppose their neighbors just took off and left them to fend for themselves. How sad....... I have a hard time believing that. it's not like hurricanes sneak up on you in 2 minutes.. you know a day at least in advance and they issues an evacuation there long before the hurricane hit. I lived in Orlando for 13 years, and many people just do NOT believe anything bad can happen to them, no matter what they are told. Heck, I remember a police car stopping by everyone's trailer in a trailer park, and telling them they had a mandatory evacuation of the area, and they told the police fine, and as soon as they left, said there was no way in hell they were leaving. IMHO it's Darwinism at it's best. The smart survive, and the stupid perish. Just like the people who ran *gas generators* in their homes, and had fires.. how stupid do you have to be to run a gasoline generator IN YOUR HOUSE?? My pond fish are smarter then that! -- Gareee© (Gary Tabar Jr.) Gareee's Homepage: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine.../mainframe.htm |
"Gareee©" wrote in message ... They've been talking on CNN about the city not even being inhabitable for a month or so, and gas prices skyrocketing to $4 a gallon because of damage to off shore oil refining rigs. It does sound though like many things that contributed to the disaster were man made changes to the area.. straightening the Mississippi and loosing the solt that used to be deposited there, and mismanagement of the swamplands that had protected them in the past, to reclaim land for purchase and developement. It sounds like a combo of a bad weather situation, and a lot of really stupid people. Why people decided to try to "ride it out" is beyond me. I used to live in Florida, and got the hell out before Andrew hit. -- Gareee© (Gary Tabar Jr.) Gareee's Homepage: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine.../mainframe.htm I've visited a few places in the States - San Diego, LA, Manhatten and Long Island.....my memories of Manhatten are filled with sadness due to my discovery of my vertigo going up the Twin Towers but it is a memory that I will cherish forever...and added to my shock on 9/11....a day I will never forget. I visited New Orleans in 2000 for a big work trip....I remember the vibrance of the city, the culture, Cat's Miaow :-) and the wonderful time I spent with my colleagues in the various bars up and down Bourbon Street....we stayed on Cruise Ships on the Mississipi.....we have been planning to return as a family to this wonderful city - we put off this year (would have been 4 weeks ago) due to the age of my youngest (4)...we wanted to go when all of the family could appreciate this wonderful city.....I've been watching the news and what I see is so devastating....my heart goes out to the people here who have had their lives ruined in such a way that no insurance compensation will even get close to matching....oil prices might rise but what is that in comparison to the number of lives lost or ruined..... I hope, beyond all reasonable hope, that things will not get much worse in terms of the news coming out of this area and that things will get sorted soon so that people can return to what remains of their homes, even if it is just to salvage whatever is left....my heart goes out to everyone in this region.....and hope that those that you care about have not been too badly affected.... Gill |
"Gill Passman" gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk wrote in message
news:4314dfb5$0$38045 I hope, beyond all reasonable hope, that things will not get much worse in terms of the news coming out of this area and that things will get sorted soon so that people can return to what remains of their homes, even if it is just to salvage whatever is left....my heart goes out to everyone in this region.....and hope that those that you care about have not been too badly affected.... I agree, Gill. I never visited New Orleans, but we'd talked about it here a few times. I *really* wish I had now. -- Gareee© (Gary Tabar Jr.) Gareee's Homepage: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine.../mainframe.htm |
Gareee© wrote:
"Reel Mckoi" wrote in message ... $$ I saw on the News that some couldn't get out. They had no choice. I suppose their neighbors just took off and left them to fend for themselves. How sad....... I have a hard time believing that. it's not like hurricanes sneak up on you in 2 minutes.. you know a day at least in advance and they issues an evacuation there long before the hurricane hit. If you live in the city, you don't own a car, and you can't afford a plane ticket - I imagine it's not easy to evacuate. I lived in Orlando for 13 years, and many people just do NOT believe anything bad can happen to them, no matter what they are told. Which also happens, but those 7000 people who stayed in the SuperDome were mostly there long before the hurricane hit. Those were the people who had nowhere else to go, but were willing to evacuate - there were probably at least as many people hiding out in their homes. Heck, I remember a police car stopping by everyone's trailer in a trailer park, and telling them they had a mandatory evacuation of the area, and they told the police fine, and as soon as they left, said there was no way in hell they were leaving. Yeah, well, sometimes that's because they really _do_ know better than the police. I was evacuated during Juan, two years ago. I was at _significantly_ greater risk leaving when they decided I needed to, and it turned out the evacuation order _didn't_ apply to my area, anyway. Next time a cop comes to my door and orders me to leave, I'll be sure to know the _real_ details of the evacuation order, first. IMHO it's Darwinism at it's best. The smart survive, and the stupid perish. Just like the people who ran *gas generators* in their homes, and had fires.. how stupid do you have to be to run a gasoline generator IN YOUR HOUSE?? That's rarely a problem. People who run generators in their homes usually die peacefully of CO poisoning before there's a chance of a fire... -- derek |
My heart is broken. New Orleans is my first love. St. Bernard Parish is
where I worked for 6 wonderful years with the Army National Guard. I knew I was in for a long night when I heard that New Orleans itself was not touched. We all know different now. I know the city will rebuild but what of all the lives? Nedra in Missouri |
"Gareee©" wrote in message ... "Reel Mckoi" wrote in message ... $$ I saw on the News that some couldn't get out. They had no choice. I suppose their neighbors just took off and left them to fend for themselves. How sad....... I have a hard time believing that. it's not like hurricanes sneak up on you in 2 minutes.. you know a day at least in advance and they issues an evacuation there long before the hurricane hit. $$ But if you're poor and have no car how can you leave? Maybe they didn't have family. Picture how crowded any bus depot would be! I lived in Orlando for 13 years, and many people just do NOT believe anything bad can happen to them, no matter what they are told. $$ You will always find such foolish people. I agree. Heck, I remember a police car stopping by everyone's trailer in a trailer park, and telling them they had a mandatory evacuation of the area, and they told the police fine, and as soon as they left, said there was no way in hell they were leaving. $$ Yes, I remember people would not leave Amagansett L.I. when a storm was headed that way in 1954 or 55. Many lived to regret it. My family was lucky, the water didn't come as far as our summer bungalow. Other people ran for their lives as their homes were ripped off their foundations and tumbled like doll houses in the surge. I thought for sure we were all going to die. IMHO it's Darwinism at it's best. The smart survive, and the stupid perish. $$ To some extent this is true but I don't believe the Police had enough manpower to evacuate all those without cars, family, close friends or money to pay someone to evacuate them. I myself would have been out of there if I had to WALK! Now the looters are looting the stores.... and probably any homes still standing. Just like the people who ran *gas generators* in their homes, and had fires.. how stupid do you have to be to run a gasoline generator IN YOUR HOUSE?? My pond fish are smarter then that! -- McKoi.... frugal ponding since 1995... My Pond Page http://tinyurl.com/cuq5b ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
"Gareee©" wrote in message ... "Reel Mckoi" wrote in message ... $$ I saw on the News that some couldn't get out. They had no choice. I suppose their neighbors just took off and left them to fend for themselves. How sad....... I have a hard time believing that. it's not like hurricanes sneak up on you in 2 minutes.. you know a day at least in advance and they issues an evacuation there long before the hurricane hit. 20% of the people live below the poverty line. An equal number don't own their own means of transportation, and the buses don't run out of town. There are also a lot of elderly people living in New Orleans. Many of them were infirmed. |
" George" wrote in message
news:GH6Re.294033$_o.224146@attbi_s71... 20% of the people live below the poverty line. An equal number don't own their own means of transportation, and the buses don't run out of town. There are also a lot of elderly people living in New Orleans. Many of them were infirmed. True, but I'm not talking about people without the ability or means to leave.. I'm talking about the idiots who stay because they *know* nothing bad will happen. I am a flood victim from Andrew myself from davenport Florida, and fought flood waters for 4 months with sandbags, along with my neighbors. I couldn't tell you how many times that I came home to a foot of water in my living room. I remember not being able to open my car door, because water would have flooded into it. That was after the fact, doing damage control. At the end, Fema declared my home unlivable and I got a nice check to get me another place, but it took 4 months of hell before they finally resolved that for me. -- Gareee© (Gary Tabar Jr.) Gareee's Homepage: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine.../mainframe.htm |
For three years my parents lived in Baton Rouge
and we took the opportunity to visit New Orleans several times during our visits to them. It is a city where you feel you are right in step with history (something you don't feel too often in the rather new pacific northwest). I loved that aspect of it. Bourbon Street, however, kind of scared me. One night my mom and I were walking around the French Quarter at night and all of a sudden we were in an area that we felt really out of place. Voodoo shops and red lights in the windows! We skeedaddled back to the tourist section real quick!! Also love the Cafe du Monde, down on Jackson Square. My brother got some great black and white pictures of the area that are still in my familyroom. And the food!! Wow! First time I ever tried oysters and saw Tabasco Sauce in HUGE bottles. I hope they can recover and maybe be able to plan to survive if another hurricane ever hits. There will probably be some things they will change, though with mother nature, that isn't always possible. kathy :-) www.blogfromthebog.com this week's entry - blackfly Pond 101 page for new pond keepers ~ http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html |
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