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Bob 15-03-2003 02:56 PM

how old before koi breed?
 
Have noticed some strange behavior this morning....there's definately
some chasing going on. 2 particular koi seem to be the ones being
chased. We got these fish last spring...at that time they were about
6 inches long and now they're 12 inches or better. I was under the
impression that they had to be 4 or 5 years old before they would
breed. Is this just adolescent play? Water temperature is about 65
degrees here on the Gulf and fish have been active for about a month
now.. Anyone know about this?
Pondering.....
You may see our pond at:

www.gulftel.com/seadogs

Just Me \Koi\ 15-03-2003 03:08 PM

how old before koi breed?
 
I experienced the same with my pond. Told a fellow ponder and he came over.
We found fish eggs all over the pond. Of course the Koi ate most of them by
the time he came over.

Look in the roots of your Hyacinth or other plants that the fish have been
attacking recently and you should find eggs if they were spawning.
--
_______________________________________
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Bob wrote in message ...
Have noticed some strange behavior this morning....there's definately
some chasing going on. 2 particular koi seem to be the ones being
chased. We got these fish last spring...at that time they were about
6 inches long and now they're 12 inches or better. I was under the
impression that they had to be 4 or 5 years old before they would
breed. Is this just adolescent play? Water temperature is about 65
degrees here on the Gulf and fish have been active for about a month
now.. Anyone know about this?
Pondering.....
You may see our pond at:

www.gulftel.com/seadogs




Bob 15-03-2003 04:56 PM

how old before koi breed?
 
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:03:40 GMT, "Just Me \"Koi\""
wrote:

I experienced the same with my pond. Told a fellow ponder and he came over.
We found fish eggs all over the pond. Of course the Koi ate most of them by
the time he came over.

Look in the roots of your Hyacinth or other plants that the fish have been
attacking recently and you should find eggs if they were spawning.

So far I haven't found any eggs yet ....the chasing just started this
morning only about half are involved the rest seem uninterested
You may see our pond at:

www.gulftel.com/seadogs

REBEL JOE 15-03-2003 05:44 PM

how old before koi breed?
 
So your in the Gulf. My folks live there too are you close to Lillian.
Loved your home page.Nice pond.


http://community.webtv.net/rebeljoe/POND


Just Me \Koi\ 15-03-2003 05:44 PM

how old before koi breed?
 
Watch to see if they start climbing on top of the plants. Also watch out
for the eggs. Set up buckets for transfer of the eggs and some cover
plants. If you let the eggs stay in your pond, the piggy koi will eat
nearly all of them! If they hatch in your pond, I was told you will have
ammonia spike!

I have removed all my hyacinths that have good eggs on them to a small
container.

--
_______________________________________
"Architecture is the ultimate erotic 'object'."
Bernard Tschumi, "Architecture & Transgression"

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino
Bob wrote in message ...
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:03:40 GMT, "Just Me \"Koi\""
wrote:

I experienced the same with my pond. Told a fellow ponder and he came

over.
We found fish eggs all over the pond. Of course the Koi ate most of them

by
the time he came over.

Look in the roots of your Hyacinth or other plants that the fish have

been
attacking recently and you should find eggs if they were spawning.

So far I haven't found any eggs yet ....the chasing just started this
morning only about half are involved the rest seem uninterested
You may see our pond at:

www.gulftel.com/seadogs




Bob 15-03-2003 06:32 PM

how old before koi breed?
 
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:06:12 -0500 (EST), (REBEL
JOE) wrote:

So your in the Gulf. My folks live there too are you close to Lillian.
Loved your home page.Nice pond.

Hi Joe Yep Lillion is just down the road from me, Thanks..We went from catching fish to raising them LOL
http://community.webtv.net/rebeljoe/POND

You may see our pond at:

www.gulftel.com/seadogs

RichToyBox 16-03-2003 12:56 AM

how old before koi breed?
 
When they are spawning, it is usually more than just chasing. The water
surface will be covered with a white foam, from the milt, and the plants
that they can get up into, will be trashed. If they spawn, the milt is
nearly pure protein and as such creates an ammonia spike. I did not catch
the ammonia spike, because my filter was able to handle it, but the nitrites
went completely out the roof.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Just Me "Koi"" wrote in message
...
Watch to see if they start climbing on top of the plants. Also watch out
for the eggs. Set up buckets for transfer of the eggs and some cover
plants. If you let the eggs stay in your pond, the piggy koi will eat
nearly all of them! If they hatch in your pond, I was told you will have
ammonia spike!

I have removed all my hyacinths that have good eggs on them to a small
container.

--
_______________________________________
"Architecture is the ultimate erotic 'object'."
Bernard Tschumi, "Architecture & Transgression"

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino
Bob wrote in message ...
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:03:40 GMT, "Just Me \"Koi\""
wrote:

I experienced the same with my pond. Told a fellow ponder and he came

over.
We found fish eggs all over the pond. Of course the Koi ate most of

them
by
the time he came over.

Look in the roots of your Hyacinth or other plants that the fish have

been
attacking recently and you should find eggs if they were spawning.

So far I haven't found any eggs yet ....the chasing just started this
morning only about half are involved the rest seem uninterested
You may see our pond at:

www.gulftel.com/seadogs






Bob 16-03-2003 02:32 AM

how old before koi breed?
 
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:42:48 GMT, "RichToyBox"
wrote:
Thanks Rich....So I guess I definitely had some spawning going
on....as I did experience the white foam....there weren't many plants
that they could get up into....and I did notice them eating something
off the bottom....I guess that was the eggs. I have a large filter so
I didn't experience any ammonia spike....I didn't think to check for
nitrates.....this lasted for about 4 hours and now they seem to be
back to normal. My pond is completely lined with rock....some pretty
large....what do you think the chances are that some young might
survive in the pond?? And if they do....how long before I might see
one?? This took me by complete surprise as this is only the second
year for my pond.
As far as I could tell....only 2 females were involved .
Thanks for responding to my post.
When they are spawning, it is usually more than just chasing. The water
surface will be covered with a white foam, from the milt, and the plants
that they can get up into, will be trashed. If they spawn, the milt is
nearly pure protein and as such creates an ammonia spike. I did not catch
the ammonia spike, because my filter was able to handle it, but the nitrites
went completely out the roof.


You may see our pond at:

www.gulftel.com/seadogs

Just Me \Koi\ 16-03-2003 05:32 AM

how old before koi breed?
 
It was a sight to behold I tell you.

--
_______________________________________
"Architecture is the ultimate erotic 'object'."
Bernard Tschumi, "Architecture & Transgression"

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino
"RichToyBox" wrote in message
news:cMPca.95174$eG2.14005@sccrnsc03...
When they are spawning, it is usually more than just chasing. The water
surface will be covered with a white foam, from the milt, and the plants
that they can get up into, will be trashed. If they spawn, the milt is
nearly pure protein and as such creates an ammonia spike. I did not catch
the ammonia spike, because my filter was able to handle it, but the

nitrites
went completely out the roof.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Just Me "Koi"" wrote in message
...
Watch to see if they start climbing on top of the plants. Also watch

out
for the eggs. Set up buckets for transfer of the eggs and some cover
plants. If you let the eggs stay in your pond, the piggy koi will eat
nearly all of them! If they hatch in your pond, I was told you will

have
ammonia spike!

I have removed all my hyacinths that have good eggs on them to a small
container.

--
_______________________________________
"Architecture is the ultimate erotic 'object'."
Bernard Tschumi, "Architecture & Transgression"

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino
Bob wrote in message

...
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:03:40 GMT, "Just Me \"Koi\""
wrote:

I experienced the same with my pond. Told a fellow ponder and he

came
over.
We found fish eggs all over the pond. Of course the Koi ate most of

them
by
the time he came over.

Look in the roots of your Hyacinth or other plants that the fish have

been
attacking recently and you should find eggs if they were spawning.
So far I haven't found any eggs yet ....the chasing just started this
morning only about half are involved the rest seem uninterested
You may see our pond at:

www.gulftel.com/seadogs








RichToyBox 17-03-2003 03:56 PM

how old before koi breed?
 
The hatch will take place in 3 or 4 days. The fry will be very small, about
1/8 inch, and nearly clear at the hatch. If you don't have them in a
separate facility, you probably won't see them until June or July. I have
never had a year that some fry did not make it through, though it varies
from 3 or 4 to as many as a dozen. You will be out, sitting by the pond,
and all of a sudden you will see something shoot by. I mean fast, and then
you will start trying to see what it is. I usually find mine hiding up in
and around the lily pads.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


Bob wrote in message ...
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:42:48 GMT, "RichToyBox"
wrote:
Thanks Rich....So I guess I definitely had some spawning going
on....as I did experience the white foam....there weren't many plants
that they could get up into....and I did notice them eating something
off the bottom....I guess that was the eggs. I have a large filter so
I didn't experience any ammonia spike....I didn't think to check for
nitrates.....this lasted for about 4 hours and now they seem to be
back to normal. My pond is completely lined with rock....some pretty
large....what do you think the chances are that some young might
survive in the pond?? And if they do....how long before I might see
one?? This took me by complete surprise as this is only the second
year for my pond.
As far as I could tell....only 2 females were involved .
Thanks for responding to my post.
When they are spawning, it is usually more than just chasing. The water
surface will be covered with a white foam, from the milt, and the plants
that they can get up into, will be trashed. If they spawn, the milt is
nearly pure protein and as such creates an ammonia spike. I did not

catch
the ammonia spike, because my filter was able to handle it, but the

nitrites
went completely out the roof.


You may see our pond at:

www.gulftel.com/seadogs




[email protected] 18-03-2003 02:56 AM

how old before koi breed?
 
time to look for foam on the surface and check to see if the ammonia is spiking.
Ingrid

[email protected] 18-03-2003 02:56 AM

how old before koi breed?
 
Jo Ann and Steve's koi pond has shelves all the way around. says an old fart down
there told em the shelves would keep the fish from jumping out as they cant get a
head of leaping steam over a shelf. the koi are spawning and I can hear them
jumping, and even see the bruises on some of em, but they said no fish outside so far
in 4 years. I just got netting on the pond to keep em in. Ingrid

~ jan 22-03-2003 11:44 PM

how old before koi breed?
 
I think the age is more around 2-3 years, sooner for males than females. If
you have 6" koi with roe, you probably got an older koi that was stunted at
some point in its life.... or it could just have short genes, oops, petite
genes. ;o) I have such a koi, I'm almost tempted to enter it in the young
koi section, even though I think it's about 5 years old or perhaps older.
I've had it 5 years. ~ jan

On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 08:25:11 -0600, Bob wrote:


Have noticed some strange behavior this morning....there's definately
some chasing going on. 2 particular koi seem to be the ones being
chased. We got these fish last spring...at that time they were about
6 inches long and now they're 12 inches or better. I was under the
impression that they had to be 4 or 5 years old before they would
breed. Is this just adolescent play? Water temperature is about 65
degrees here on the Gulf and fish have been active for about a month
now.. Anyone know about this?
Pondering.....
You may see our pond at:

www.gulftel.com/seadogs



See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

Justin 23-03-2003 03:56 AM

how old before koi breed?
 
So when do the koi begin to breed in the spring in Zone 6? Temps the
last couple of days have wavered around the 60s.

Justin

~ jan 23-03-2003 09:32 PM

how old before koi breed?
 
On 22 Mar 2003 19:42:30 -0800, (Justin)
wrote:

So when do the koi begin to breed in the spring in Zone 6? Temps the
last couple of days have wavered around the 60s.
Justin


It varies. If the temperatures go up real gradual you may not see much of a
spawn at all. So far I've seen vigorous spawning when the temperatures all
of a sudden jumps real high, like 20 degrees from one day to the next (60F
to 80F air temp) and I've also seen spawning when I toss a bunch of water
hyacinths in about June. ~ jan (Zone 7)

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website


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