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Old 27-03-2003, 05:08 PM
Jeff
 
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Hi,

I was looking to purchase a pond vacuum, to remove submerged leaves
and gunk from my pond (the pond is about 12ft x 6ft x 2ft deep, with 5
Sarasa's, all of whom survived the zone 5 Chicago winter).

I have the Foster & Smith catalog, and they show several models
that attach to a garden hose to provide the suction. Does anyone have
any experiences, good or bad, with these pond vacuums?
Any tips or concerns?

Thanks in advance for the advice!!!

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jeffery Brown
- to reply, take out the TRASH

Pitt Panthers - Sweet 16, 2002!
How Sweet it Was...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Old 27-03-2003, 08:20 PM
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Don't bother with any of the pond vacs that attach to your hose --
they're next to worthless. A net to remove the leaves and a python
(water changer for indoor tanks) to get the "muck" works better than the
pond vacs. Or a shop vac designed to remove water and pump it out. And
net or cover the pond in the fall / winter to prevent the leaves from
piling up. I've also heard that a bottom drain works wonders, but don't
have one **yet**.
--
Kathy B, zookeeper (OR)
3500gal pond

Jeff wrote:
Hi,

I was looking to purchase a pond vacuum, to remove submerged leaves
and gunk from my pond (the pond is about 12ft x 6ft x 2ft deep, with 5
Sarasa's, all of whom survived the zone 5 Chicago winter) ...


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Old 27-03-2003, 11:56 PM
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On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:05:52 -0800, zookeeper
wrote:

Don't bother with any of the pond vacs that attach to your hose --
they're next to worthless. A net to remove the leaves and a python
(water changer for indoor tanks) to get the "muck" works better than the
pond vacs. Or a shop vac designed to remove water and pump it out. And
net or cover the pond in the fall / winter to prevent the leaves from
piling up. I've also heard that a bottom drain works wonders, but don't
have one **yet**.
--
Kathy B, zookeeper (OR)
3500gal pond


The problem here is that the leaves are falling as plants are growing
and hopefully toads are mating.

. )) -::-
. .))
jammer
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Old 28-03-2003, 01:32 AM
Dan
 
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The vacs that hook up to your hose are worthless. They are continually
clogging. Same problem with the aquarium python type. Shop vacs fill up
too fast and you are constantly emptying. Best bet is a diaphragm type
external pump, however, they are very expensive. I have just been using a
net with a long pole.

"Jeff" wrote in message
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Hi,

I was looking to purchase a pond vacuum, to remove submerged leaves
and gunk from my pond (the pond is about 12ft x 6ft x 2ft deep, with 5
Sarasa's, all of whom survived the zone 5 Chicago winter).

I have the Foster & Smith catalog, and they show several models
that attach to a garden hose to provide the suction. Does anyone have
any experiences, good or bad, with these pond vacuums?
Any tips or concerns?

Thanks in advance for the advice!!!

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jeffery Brown
- to reply, take out the TRASH

Pitt Panthers - Sweet 16, 2002!
How Sweet it Was...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





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Old 28-03-2003, 01:56 AM
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Jeff,

I made my own vacuum using a Supreme 2400 pump with an In-Line Leaf Trap
Part Number LT1 from Aquaticeco.com and the vacuum hose. I have also used a
Supreme 1800 pump, and an Oase 1200 GPH pump. The majority of the material
is caught in the net in the leaf trap and the balance is sent to the filter.
None of the water is discharged from the pond, so I do not have to add water
after cleaning. It does not use the water hose for cleaning, which puts a
lot of chlorinated water into the pond during the cleaning. The leaf trap
is easily cleaned during the vacuuming operation, by breaking the suction
line from the leaf trap. And it really works.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Jeff" wrote in message
news:[email protected]

Hi,

I was looking to purchase a pond vacuum, to remove submerged leaves
and gunk from my pond (the pond is about 12ft x 6ft x 2ft deep, with 5
Sarasa's, all of whom survived the zone 5 Chicago winter).

I have the Foster & Smith catalog, and they show several models
that attach to a garden hose to provide the suction. Does anyone have
any experiences, good or bad, with these pond vacuums?
Any tips or concerns?

Thanks in advance for the advice!!!

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jeffery Brown
- to reply, take out the TRASH

Pitt Panthers - Sweet 16, 2002!
How Sweet it Was...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



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Old 28-03-2003, 02:56 PM
Lee Brouillet
 
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RTP, would it be possible for you to put a picture of your system on your
website? I now have all the pieces, I just can't "quite" picture how it's
supposed to work. Being a visual person, a picture would help me a lot.

Lee

"RichToyBox" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Jeff,

I made my own vacuum using a Supreme 2400 pump with an In-Line Leaf Trap
Part Number LT1 from Aquaticeco.com and the vacuum hose. I have also used

a
Supreme 1800 pump, and an Oase 1200 GPH pump. The majority of the

material
is caught in the net in the leaf trap and the balance is sent to the

filter.
None of the water is discharged from the pond, so I do not have to add

water
after cleaning. It does not use the water hose for cleaning, which puts a
lot of chlorinated water into the pond during the cleaning. The leaf trap
is easily cleaned during the vacuuming operation, by breaking the suction
line from the leaf trap. And it really works.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Jeff" wrote in message
news:[email protected]

Hi,

I was looking to purchase a pond vacuum, to remove submerged leaves
and gunk from my pond (the pond is about 12ft x 6ft x 2ft deep, with 5
Sarasa's, all of whom survived the zone 5 Chicago winter).

I have the Foster & Smith catalog, and they show several models
that attach to a garden hose to provide the suction. Does anyone have
any experiences, good or bad, with these pond vacuums?
Any tips or concerns?

Thanks in advance for the advice!!!

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jeffery Brown
- to reply, take out the TRASH

Pitt Panthers - Sweet 16, 2002!
How Sweet it Was...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





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Old 29-03-2003, 01:44 AM
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I will try to get a picture tomorrow and add it to the web site. It really
works well.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Lee Brouillet" wrote in message
...
RTP, would it be possible for you to put a picture of your system on your
website? I now have all the pieces, I just can't "quite" picture how it's
supposed to work. Being a visual person, a picture would help me a lot.

Lee

"RichToyBox" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Jeff,

I made my own vacuum using a Supreme 2400 pump with an In-Line Leaf Trap
Part Number LT1 from Aquaticeco.com and the vacuum hose. I have also

used
a
Supreme 1800 pump, and an Oase 1200 GPH pump. The majority of the

material
is caught in the net in the leaf trap and the balance is sent to the

filter.
None of the water is discharged from the pond, so I do not have to add

water
after cleaning. It does not use the water hose for cleaning, which puts

a
lot of chlorinated water into the pond during the cleaning. The leaf

trap
is easily cleaned during the vacuuming operation, by breaking the

suction
line from the leaf trap. And it really works.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Jeff" wrote in message
news:[email protected]

Hi,

I was looking to purchase a pond vacuum, to remove submerged leaves
and gunk from my pond (the pond is about 12ft x 6ft x 2ft deep, with 5
Sarasa's, all of whom survived the zone 5 Chicago winter).

I have the Foster & Smith catalog, and they show several models
that attach to a garden hose to provide the suction. Does anyone have
any experiences, good or bad, with these pond vacuums?
Any tips or concerns?

Thanks in advance for the advice!!!

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jeffery Brown
- to reply, take out the TRASH

Pitt Panthers - Sweet 16, 2002!
How Sweet it Was...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~







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Old 30-03-2003, 02:33 AM
RichToyBox
 
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The pictures with description of connections are now posted on the following
web page.
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondpage4.html
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"RichToyBox" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
I will try to get a picture tomorrow and add it to the web site. It

really
works well.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Lee Brouillet" wrote in message
...
RTP, would it be possible for you to put a picture of your system on

your
website? I now have all the pieces, I just can't "quite" picture how

it's
supposed to work. Being a visual person, a picture would help me a lot.

Lee

"RichToyBox" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Jeff,

I made my own vacuum using a Supreme 2400 pump with an In-Line Leaf

Trap
Part Number LT1 from Aquaticeco.com and the vacuum hose. I have also

used
a
Supreme 1800 pump, and an Oase 1200 GPH pump. The majority of the

material
is caught in the net in the leaf trap and the balance is sent to the

filter.
None of the water is discharged from the pond, so I do not have to add

water
after cleaning. It does not use the water hose for cleaning, which

puts
a
lot of chlorinated water into the pond during the cleaning. The leaf

trap
is easily cleaned during the vacuuming operation, by breaking the

suction
line from the leaf trap. And it really works.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Jeff" wrote in message
news:[email protected]

Hi,

I was looking to purchase a pond vacuum, to remove submerged leaves
and gunk from my pond (the pond is about 12ft x 6ft x 2ft deep, with

5
Sarasa's, all of whom survived the zone 5 Chicago winter).

I have the Foster & Smith catalog, and they show several models
that attach to a garden hose to provide the suction. Does anyone

have
any experiences, good or bad, with these pond vacuums?
Any tips or concerns?

Thanks in advance for the advice!!!

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jeffery Brown
- to reply, take out the TRASH

Pitt Panthers - Sweet 16, 2002!
How Sweet it Was...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~








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Old 30-03-2003, 02:33 AM
zookeeper
 
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Where does the leaf trap fit into your setup? Is the small black "thing"
on the left the pump?

P.S. Your pond and pond pages are gorgeous!! enjoyed spending some time
there yesterday and today. (Just got new computer with lots of
up-to-date bells and whistles, so am now visiting all the websites I
couldn't see or hear properly over the past 2 years.)
--
Kathy, zookeeper (OR)
3500gal pond

RichToyBox wrote:
The pictures with description of connections are now posted on the following
web page ...




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Old 30-03-2003, 02:33 AM
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The small black thing is the pump. The leaf trap is the clear plastic
devise between the white hose and the green hose. It has a white net that
catches the leaves and other coarse debris. Some fines get through, but
they settle out within a day, and are so thin as to be unnoticed.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"zookeeper" wrote in message
...
Where does the leaf trap fit into your setup? Is the small black "thing"
on the left the pump?

P.S. Your pond and pond pages are gorgeous!! enjoyed spending some time
there yesterday and today. (Just got new computer with lots of
up-to-date bells and whistles, so am now visiting all the websites I
couldn't see or hear properly over the past 2 years.)
--
Kathy, zookeeper (OR)
3500gal pond

RichToyBox wrote:
The pictures with description of connections are now posted on the

following
web page ...




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Old 30-03-2003, 11:56 PM
zookeeper
 
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Sorry -- the first time I went to the pond vac page, the first photo was
of the pond, not the pump, leaf trap, hose. If lugging our huge shop vac
out to the pond gets to be too much, I'll look into finding a pump to
use in a system like yours.
--
Kathy, zookeeper (OR)
3500gal pond

RichToyBox wrote:
The small black thing is the pump. The leaf trap is the clear plastic
devise between the white hose and the green hose ...


"zookeeper" wrote in message
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Where does the leaf trap fit into your setup? ...


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Old 31-03-2003, 04:56 PM
Lee Brouillet
 
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Thanks RTB! A picture is worth a thousand words . . . NOW I understand!

Lee

"RichToyBox" wrote in message
.net...
The pictures with description of connections are now posted on the

following
web page.
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondpage4.html
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"RichToyBox" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
I will try to get a picture tomorrow and add it to the web site. It

really
works well.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Lee Brouillet" wrote in message
...
RTP, would it be possible for you to put a picture of your system on

your
website? I now have all the pieces, I just can't "quite" picture how

it's
supposed to work. Being a visual person, a picture would help me a

lot.

Lee

"RichToyBox" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Jeff,

I made my own vacuum using a Supreme 2400 pump with an In-Line Leaf

Trap
Part Number LT1 from Aquaticeco.com and the vacuum hose. I have

also
used
a
Supreme 1800 pump, and an Oase 1200 GPH pump. The majority of the
material
is caught in the net in the leaf trap and the balance is sent to the
filter.
None of the water is discharged from the pond, so I do not have to

add
water
after cleaning. It does not use the water hose for cleaning, which

puts
a
lot of chlorinated water into the pond during the cleaning. The

leaf
trap
is easily cleaned during the vacuuming operation, by breaking the

suction
line from the leaf trap. And it really works.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Jeff" wrote in message
news:[email protected]

Hi,

I was looking to purchase a pond vacuum, to remove submerged

leaves
and gunk from my pond (the pond is about 12ft x 6ft x 2ft deep,

with
5
Sarasa's, all of whom survived the zone 5 Chicago winter).

I have the Foster & Smith catalog, and they show several models
that attach to a garden hose to provide the suction. Does anyone

have
any experiences, good or bad, with these pond vacuums?
Any tips or concerns?

Thanks in advance for the advice!!!

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jeffery Brown
- to reply, take out the TRASH

Pitt Panthers - Sweet 16, 2002!
How Sweet it Was...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~












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