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Possible burned out pump? New pump suggestions...
Our waterfall pump stopped working today At first we thought that the
cicuit breaker just tripped, althought,that is not a usual occurance. We pushed the buttons on the gfc and check the breakers in the breaker box but it didn't turn back on. We unplugged it and plugged it back in and the waterfall turned on. YA! So we thought. Ten minutes later it stopped again. Hubby went to unplug it and plug it back in but noticed that the plug was really hot, the wire was hot as well. He unplugged and plugged back in but no go booohooo. We are guessing that the pump has gone bad. The pump is at least 6 years old, not sure we just moved here 3 years ago but I think I remember the former owns mentioning when they built the water fall. Does it sound like a bad pump?? My other question is for pump recommendations. The pump that is in the pond is submerssible but not an actual pond pump. Here is the specs. of our current pump Goulds Submersible sewage pump Pump .. Solids handling capabilities: 2" maximum. .. Capacities: up to 220 GPM. .. Total heads: up to 81 feet TDH. .. Discharge size: 2" NPT threaded companion flange as standard. 3" option available but must be ordered separately. (Order no. A1-3) Our waterfall has a WOW factor, we don't want to loose that. The new pump doesn't need to match the above specs. but need to at least provide a good waterflow. The water is pumped up a 14 foot incline to the top. Here is a link to a video of our waterfall so you can see the effect we would like. http://media.putfile.com/Pond-Video One thing for sure about our old pump it costs A LOT to run!!! About $75.00-$90 a month more!!!! Is that normal? Sure would like some advice on what pump to get. We are novices with ponding so could use some ideas. Thanks!!!! |
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Possible burned out pump? New pump suggestions...
Typical for a pump like that. Odds are it wasnot intended to be operated continuous duty as most sump type pumps are not made for continuous duty. There is lots of pumps out there that wil work, Pondmaster (Hy-Drive series) makes good submersibles, Laguna makes good sub. I would stay away from Cal pump. I have mixed feelings about Beckett and Little Giant brand pumps.....but others say they are just fine. I do not think finding a suitable pond pump as such with those specs are going to be as easy or at least not 100%.......sump pumps do it fast and hard but in short periods, and what yur looking for is a longterm perferomance.....While a real water fall pump may be somewhat cheaper than a sump pump to ooperate they still are not as efficient as a external pump is. Is replumbing a external pump in to provide water flow an option......if so check out Sequence line of pumps. Cyprio Prima also makes a good high head high flow pump suited for waterfalls. Best lowest prices with free shipping on most items is found at A Z Ponds Great company to deal with and the free shiping and low prices are hard to beat, for quality made items. submersible pumps are aat: http://www.azponds.com/subpumps.htm http://www.azponds.com/ On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 02:54:18 GMT, "GoldLexus" wrote: Our waterfall pump stopped working today At first we thought that the cicuit breaker just tripped, althought,that is not a usual occurance. We pushed the buttons on the gfc and check the breakers in the breaker box but it didn't turn back on. We unplugged it and plugged it back in and the waterfall turned on. YA! So we thought. Ten minutes later it stopped again. Hubby went to unplug it and plug it back in but noticed that the plug was really hot, the wire was hot as well. He unplugged and plugged back in but no go booohooo. We are guessing that the pump has gone bad. The pump is at least 6 years old, not sure we just moved here 3 years ago but I think I remember the former owns mentioning when they built the water fall. Does it sound like a bad pump?? My other question is for pump recommendations. The pump that is in the pond is submerssible but not an actual pond pump. Here is the specs. of our current pump Goulds Submersible sewage pump Pump . Solids handling capabilities: 2" maximum. . Capacities: up to 220 GPM. . Total heads: up to 81 feet TDH. . Discharge size: 2" NPT threaded companion flange as standard. 3" option available but must be ordered separately. (Order no. A1-3) Our waterfall has a WOW factor, we don't want to loose that. The new pump doesn't need to match the above specs. but need to at least provide a good waterflow. The water is pumped up a 14 foot incline to the top. Here is a link to a video of our waterfall so you can see the effect we would like. http://media.putfile.com/Pond-Video One thing for sure about our old pump it costs A LOT to run!!! About $75.00-$90 a month more!!!! Is that normal? Sure would like some advice on what pump to get. We are novices with ponding so could use some ideas. Thanks!!!! -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Possible burned out pump? New pump suggestions...
First, by-pass the GFIC circuit to eliminate it as the problem with a heavy
gauge extension cord plugged into a different circuit - I had that happen 2 yrs ago and almost replaced the pump before ckecking that and am now running the same pump today on a new GFIC breaker- the pump you are running pulls a lot of elect and may have done in the GFIC - if the pump is done (i.e. it still needs to be replaced there are pumps that are more energy efficient, but just remember to check the gph output at the head you are actually pumping to - on the more energy efficient models, the gph drops a lot faster as you pump to a higher "head" , or you will lose your "WOW" factor Gale :~) Our waterfall pump stopped working today At first we thought that the cicuit breaker just tripped, althought,that is not a usual occurance. We pushed the buttons on the gfc and check the breakers in the breaker box but it didn't turn back on. We unplugged it and plugged it back in and the waterfall turned on. YA! So we thought. Ten minutes later it stopped again. Hubby went to unplug it and plug it back in but noticed that the plug was really hot, the wire was hot as well. He unplugged and plugged back in but no go booohooo. We are guessing that the pump has gone bad. The pump is at least 6 years old, not sure we just moved here 3 years ago but I think I remember the former owns mentioning when they built the water fall. Does it sound like a bad pump?? My other question is for pump recommendations. The pump that is in the pond is submerssible but not an actual pond pump. Here is the specs. of our current pump Goulds Submersible sewage pump Pump . Solids handling capabilities: 2" maximum. . Capacities: up to 220 GPM. . Total heads: up to 81 feet TDH. . Discharge size: 2" NPT threaded companion flange as standard. 3" option available but must be ordered separately. (Order no. A1-3) Our waterfall has a WOW factor, we don't want to loose that. The new pump doesn't need to match the above specs. but need to at least provide a good waterflow. The water is pumped up a 14 foot incline to the top. Here is a link to a video of our waterfall so you can see the effect we would like. http://media.putfile.com/Pond-Video One thing for sure about our old pump it costs A LOT to run!!! About $75.00-$90 a month more!!!! Is that normal? Sure would like some advice on what pump to get. We are novices with ponding so could use some ideas. Thanks!!!! |
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Possible burned out pump? New pump suggestions...
"GoldLexus" wrote in message news:uVmng.2609$il.1646@trnddc03... Our waterfall pump stopped working today At first we thought that the cicuit breaker just tripped, althought,that is not a usual occurance. We pushed the buttons on the gfc and check the breakers in the breaker box but it didn't turn back on. ......... ========================== We had a similar thing happen last summer. When we took the bottom off the pump we found water had managed to get past the seal. We dried it out, greased and reset the seal and the pump is back in business (Big Versa). -- KL.... Frugal ponding since 1995. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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Possible burned out pump? New pump suggestions...
yea yea yea Carol, like you know a dam thing about a natural or bentonite lined pond that would be of interest to you. $3.98 kiddy pools are your thing. Whats a matter dearie, not enough folks in these groups to impress with your vast knowledge....not enough folks pay attention to you on the web based forum, so now your getting unselective in what and who you want to reply to, just as long as you can reply and get a response.......the old attention whore is not getting as much attention these days and its killing her.......hahahahahaha On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 10:11:11 -0500, "Koi-Lo" ¤?¤@ö½.Õ..Õ¢ wrote: "GoldLexus" wrote in message news:uVmng.2609$il.1646@trnddc03... Our waterfall pump stopped working today At first we thought that the cicuit breaker just tripped, althought,that is not a usual occurance. We pushed the buttons on the gfc and check the breakers in the breaker box but it didn't turn back on. ......... ========================== We had a similar thing happen last summer. This is almost always a standard typical reply by Carol Gulley., Whatever somone else has happen it has already happened to her first. When we took the bottom off the pump we found water had managed to get past the seal. Yea, lies lies lies. The only thing yu r capable of taking off is yur panties...........whats this wee stuff..you actually run into a patron that needed help in getting you out of your drawers Carol? We dried it out, greased and reset the seal and the pump is back in business (Big Versa). In other words you got his pecker dried off then got it hard again, put on a new condom, slicked it up with K-Y jelly and did a round of anal and had a good one......Is big Versa code for getting an anal work out Carol? hahahahahahahaBesides being an attenntion whore your just a plain old ho! -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Possible burned out pump? New pump suggestions...
I realize the pump is not intended to run continuously. But it has ran for
six years. The first year is ran all year. The second-sixth year it ran 4 months of the year continuously. It runs all spring and summer long and shut down for the winter. Thank you for all the pump suggestions!!! I will be researching further. The sump pump is an electrical hog so it would be nice to find something a bit more energy efficient. "Cuttysark" wrote in message ... Typical for a pump like that. Odds are it wasnot intended to be operated continuous duty as most sump type pumps are not made for continuous duty. There is lots of pumps out there that wil work, Pondmaster (Hy-Drive series) makes good submersibles, Laguna makes good sub. I would stay away from Cal pump. I have mixed feelings about Beckett and Little Giant brand pumps.....but others say they are just fine. I do not think finding a suitable pond pump as such with those specs are going to be as easy or at least not 100%.......sump pumps do it fast and hard but in short periods, and what yur looking for is a longterm perferomance.....While a real water fall pump may be somewhat cheaper than a sump pump to ooperate they still are not as efficient as a external pump is. Is replumbing a external pump in to provide water flow an option......if so check out Sequence line of pumps. Cyprio Prima also makes a good high head high flow pump suited for waterfalls. Best lowest prices with free shipping on most items is found at A Z Ponds Great company to deal with and the free shiping and low prices are hard to beat, for quality made items. submersible pumps are aat: http://www.azponds.com/subpumps.htm http://www.azponds.com/ On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 02:54:18 GMT, "GoldLexus" wrote: Our waterfall pump stopped working today At first we thought that the cicuit breaker just tripped, althought,that is not a usual occurance. We pushed the buttons on the gfc and check the breakers in the breaker box but it didn't turn back on. We unplugged it and plugged it back in and the waterfall turned on. YA! So we thought. Ten minutes later it stopped again. Hubby went to unplug it and plug it back in but noticed that the plug was really hot, the wire was hot as well. He unplugged and plugged back in but no go booohooo. We are guessing that the pump has gone bad. The pump is at least 6 years old, not sure we just moved here 3 years ago but I think I remember the former owns mentioning when they built the water fall. Does it sound like a bad pump?? My other question is for pump recommendations. The pump that is in the pond is submerssible but not an actual pond pump. Here is the specs. of our current pump Goulds Submersible sewage pump Pump . Solids handling capabilities: 2" maximum. . Capacities: up to 220 GPM. . Total heads: up to 81 feet TDH. . Discharge size: 2" NPT threaded companion flange as standard. 3" option available but must be ordered separately. (Order no. A1-3) Our waterfall has a WOW factor, we don't want to loose that. The new pump doesn't need to match the above specs. but need to at least provide a good waterflow. The water is pumped up a 14 foot incline to the top. Here is a link to a video of our waterfall so you can see the effect we would like. http://media.putfile.com/Pond-Video One thing for sure about our old pump it costs A LOT to run!!! About $75.00-$90 a month more!!!! Is that normal? Sure would like some advice on what pump to get. We are novices with ponding so could use some ideas. Thanks!!!! -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Possible burned out pump? New pump suggestions...
I am a little hesitant to bypass the gfic. The pump runs on I believe a 220
circuit. It use to be plugged into the houses external electrical outlet but over time it fried that outlet. So the previous owner had an electrican install both a 110 and 220 outlets in the 'pump house' (actually the pump house has an pressurized filter setup in it along with the electrial lines that are ran underground up into the pump house.) We have the pond lights plugged into the 110 side (it has room for 2 things to be plugged into, right now it also has our 'winter' pump running the little fountain. We need to keep our fish happy and healthy while the waterfall pump is down) the waterfall pump is plugged into the 220 side (only one plug in) The 110 side is working. All this to say I am afraid to plug the pump into a regular house outlet via extension cord. Is there other ways to test the gfic? A tester of some sort? I don't know much about electricity but I remember what the previous owner has told me. Thanks!!!!! "G Pearce" wrote in message ... First, by-pass the GFIC circuit to eliminate it as the problem with a heavy gauge extension cord plugged into a different circuit - I had that happen 2 yrs ago and almost replaced the pump before ckecking that and am now running the same pump today on a new GFIC breaker- the pump you are running pulls a lot of elect and may have done in the GFIC - if the pump is done (i.e. it still needs to be replaced there are pumps that are more energy efficient, but just remember to check the gph output at the head you are actually pumping to - on the more energy efficient models, the gph drops a lot faster as you pump to a higher "head" , or you will lose your "WOW" factor Gale :~) Our waterfall pump stopped working today At first we thought that the cicuit breaker just tripped, althought,that is not a usual occurance. We pushed the buttons on the gfc and check the breakers in the breaker box but it didn't turn back on. We unplugged it and plugged it back in and the waterfall turned on. YA! So we thought. Ten minutes later it stopped again. Hubby went to unplug it and plug it back in but noticed that the plug was really hot, the wire was hot as well. He unplugged and plugged back in but no go booohooo. We are guessing that the pump has gone bad. The pump is at least 6 years old, not sure we just moved here 3 years ago but I think I remember the former owns mentioning when they built the water fall. Does it sound like a bad pump?? My other question is for pump recommendations. The pump that is in the pond is submerssible but not an actual pond pump. Here is the specs. of our current pump Goulds Submersible sewage pump Pump . Solids handling capabilities: 2" maximum. . Capacities: up to 220 GPM. . Total heads: up to 81 feet TDH. . Discharge size: 2" NPT threaded companion flange as standard. 3" option available but must be ordered separately. (Order no. A1-3) Our waterfall has a WOW factor, we don't want to loose that. The new pump doesn't need to match the above specs. but need to at least provide a good waterflow. The water is pumped up a 14 foot incline to the top. Here is a link to a video of our waterfall so you can see the effect we would like. http://media.putfile.com/Pond-Video One thing for sure about our old pump it costs A LOT to run!!! About $75.00-$90 a month more!!!! Is that normal? Sure would like some advice on what pump to get. We are novices with ponding so could use some ideas. Thanks!!!! |
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Possible burned out pump? New pump suggestions...
T o be honest and eliminate any possibility of someone getting shocked or killed in the process of troubleshooting this pump of yours. your two main options a 1. call up an electrician and lay it on him to checkout if its the GFCI or pump or both 2. Just order a new pump and hope it was the pump. I do suppose your 220 side of the outlets has a special shaped plug in.and not the typical shaped recepticle! If not it should really be changed to a 220 outlet device to preclude someone in teh futiure getting hurt if a 110 item is plugged in there. I have seen 115 vac outlets used to power 220 and its not safe to do. LOts of folks skimp on a 220 device thinking they will remember, but most forget. I personally do not think advising anyone on how to do or take a pump apart and repair it espeically like Koi Lo stated espeically on a submersible pump and then not get everything back right and get somone killed. Even if those foks are good at what they do, Its still a bad situati9on andmay be deadly espeically when yu do not kow these information giving people from the man in the moon. Would yu do heart surgery guided by jerks on the internet, when there is not one iota of proof of who they are or of their credentials....FOOLISH? Call an electrician or take pump to repair service center for that brand of pump. Listening to fools like Koi Lo can get you killed, she has been known to give out info that foks used and killed their fish in the process and ahumaanm life is not worth using her so called knowledge of anything especially electrical or life related. On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:52:32 GMT, "GoldLexus" wrote: I am a little hesitant to bypass the gfic. The pump runs on I believe a 220 circuit. It use to be plugged into the houses external electrical outlet but over time it fried that outlet. So the previous owner had an electrican install both a 110 and 220 outlets in the 'pump house' (actually the pump house has an pressurized filter setup in it along with the electrial lines that are ran underground up into the pump house.) We have the pond lights plugged into the 110 side (it has room for 2 things to be plugged into, right now it also has our 'winter' pump running the little fountain. We need to keep our fish happy and healthy while the waterfall pump is down) the waterfall pump is plugged into the 220 side (only one plug in) The 110 side is working. All this to say I am afraid to plug the pump into a regular house outlet via extension cord. Is there other ways to test the gfic? A tester of some sort? I don't know much about electricity but I remember what the previous owner has told me. Thanks!!!!! "G Pearce" wrote in message ... First, by-pass the GFIC circuit to eliminate it as the problem with a heavy gauge extension cord plugged into a different circuit - I had that happen 2 yrs ago and almost replaced the pump before ckecking that and am now running the same pump today on a new GFIC breaker- the pump you are running pulls a lot of elect and may have done in the GFIC - if the pump is done (i.e. it still needs to be replaced there are pumps that are more energy efficient, but just remember to check the gph output at the head you are actually pumping to - on the more energy efficient models, the gph drops a lot faster as you pump to a higher "head" , or you will lose your "WOW" factor Gale :~) Our waterfall pump stopped working today At first we thought that the cicuit breaker just tripped, althought,that is not a usual occurance. We pushed the buttons on the gfc and check the breakers in the breaker box but it didn't turn back on. We unplugged it and plugged it back in and the waterfall turned on. YA! So we thought. Ten minutes later it stopped again. Hubby went to unplug it and plug it back in but noticed that the plug was really hot, the wire was hot as well. He unplugged and plugged back in but no go booohooo. We are guessing that the pump has gone bad. The pump is at least 6 years old, not sure we just moved here 3 years ago but I think I remember the former owns mentioning when they built the water fall. Does it sound like a bad pump?? My other question is for pump recommendations. The pump that is in the pond is submerssible but not an actual pond pump. Here is the specs. of our current pump Goulds Submersible sewage pump Pump . Solids handling capabilities: 2" maximum. . Capacities: up to 220 GPM. . Total heads: up to 81 feet TDH. . Discharge size: 2" NPT threaded companion flange as standard. 3" option available but must be ordered separately. (Order no. A1-3) Our waterfall has a WOW factor, we don't want to loose that. The new pump doesn't need to match the above specs. but need to at least provide a good waterflow. The water is pumped up a 14 foot incline to the top. Here is a link to a video of our waterfall so you can see the effect we would like. http://media.putfile.com/Pond-Video One thing for sure about our old pump it costs A LOT to run!!! About $75.00-$90 a month more!!!! Is that normal? Sure would like some advice on what pump to get. We are novices with ponding so could use some ideas. Thanks!!!! -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Possible burned out pump? Cutty Sark and Whodunit are my sockpuppets.......
I gotta use socks and impersonate Ed... cause everyones ignorning me as
Roy. I beat up old granmothers like Koi-Lo. Dont' like.... it tough shit. Whodunit wrote: yea yea yea Carol, like you know a dam thing about a natural or bentonite lined pond that would be of interest to you. $3.98 kiddy pools are your thing. Whats a matter dearie, not enough folks in these groups to impress with your vast knowledge....not enough folks pay attention to you on the web based forum, so now your getting unselective in what and who you want to reply to, just as long as you can reply and get a response.......the old attention whore is not getting as much attention these days and its killing her.......hahahahahaha On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 10:11:11 -0500, "Koi-Lo" ¤?¤@ö½.Õ..Õ¢ wrote: "GoldLexus" wrote in message news:uVmng.2609$il.1646@trnddc03... Our waterfall pump stopped working today At first we thought that the cicuit breaker just tripped, althought,that is not a usual occurance. We pushed the buttons on the gfc and check the breakers in the breaker box but it didn't turn back on. ......... ========================== We had a similar thing happen last summer. This is almost always a standard typical reply by Carol Gulley., Whatever somone else has happen it has already happened to her first. When we took the bottom off the pump we found water had managed to get past the seal. Yea, lies lies lies. The only thing yu r capable of taking off is yur panties...........whats this wee stuff..you actually run into a patron that needed help in getting you out of your drawers Carol? We dried it out, greased and reset the seal and the pump is back in business (Big Versa). In other words you got his pecker dried off then got it hard again, put on a new condom, slicked it up with K-Y jelly and did a round of anal and had a good one......Is big Versa code for getting an anal work out Carol? hahahahahahahaBesides being an attenntion whore your just a plain old ho! -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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