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White Grubs...
I need to find a fish safe treatment for White Grubs ...
they have trashed my neighbors yard and are working on mine. My neighbor is an excellent fellow and has told me he will not spray if I can find a fish safe way to get rid of them. Please don't say "Get a Skunk" we've been trying that and they only do a half assed job. |
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On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 15:01:28 -0400, ajames54™
wrote: you can use nematodes, these are a biological parisite that eat grubs I have had moderate to excellent success with them and I am in very infested area, ps use lots of water on your lawn if restrictions are not in place they don't like being damp all the time. I need to find a fish safe treatment for White Grubs ... they have trashed my neighbors yard and are working on mine. My neighbor is an excellent fellow and has told me he will not spray if I can find a fish safe way to get rid of them. Please don't say "Get a Skunk" we've been trying that and they only do a half assed job. |
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"ajames54T" wrote: I need to find a fish safe treatment for White Grubs ... Please don't say "Get a Skunk" we've been trying that and they only do a half assed job. Get two skunks. (I couldn't resist.) Michael Fermanis New Orleans, Louisiana USA (Remove the RICE to reply) ================================================== =========== |
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milky spore. completely biological. they say application will work for about 20
years. Ingrid ajames54™ wrote: I need to find a fish safe treatment for White Grubs ... they have trashed my neighbors yard and are working on mine. My neighbor is an excellent fellow and has told me he will not spray if I can find a fish safe way to get rid of them. Please don't say "Get a Skunk" we've been trying that and they only do a half assed job. |
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Armadillos do a great job on grubs.
Tom L.L. ---------------------------------- "MLF" wrote in message ... "ajames54T" wrote: I need to find a fish safe treatment for White Grubs ... Please don't say "Get a Skunk" we've been trying that and they only do a half assed job. Get two skunks. (I couldn't resist.) Michael Fermanis New Orleans, Louisiana USA (Remove the RICE to reply) ================================================== =========== |
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Armadillos do a great job on grubs.
Man...someone talked about chipmonks tearing up a liner....I shudder to think of a lawn or liner.....Jerri http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond |
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Jerrispond wrote: Armadillos do a great job on grubs. Man...someone talked about chipmonks tearing up a liner....I shudder to think of a lawn or liner.....Jerri http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond -- cleaning the garden the other dzy we found a lot of those whit e grubs Koi luvvv em John Rutz Z5 New Mexico If it can't be fixed with bailing wire or duct tape its not worth fixing see my pond at: http://www.fuerjefe.com |
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Ahhhhhh, what is a Grub? Sounds gross!!
Priss wrote in message ... milky spore. completely biological. they say application will work for about 20 years. Ingrid ajames54T wrote: I need to find a fish safe treatment for White Grubs ... they have trashed my neighbors yard and are working on mine. My neighbor is an excellent fellow and has told me he will not spray if I can find a fish safe way to get rid of them. Please don't say "Get a Skunk" we've been trying that and they only do a half assed job. |
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Priscilla McCullough wrote:
Ahhhhhh, what is a Grub? Sounds gross!! Priss wrote in message ... milky spore. completely biological. they say application will work for about 20 years. Ingrid ajames54T wrote: I need to find a fish safe treatment for White Grubs ... they have trashed my neighbors yard and are working on mine. My neighbor is an excellent fellow and has told me he will not spray if I can find a fish safe way to get rid of them. Please don't say "Get a Skunk" we've been trying that and they only do a half assed job. A white grub is a larva (I don't remember of what) about 1" long and 1/4" around. The flickers love to find them in my yard. -- Bonnie NJ http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/ |
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A white grub is a larva (I don't remember of what) about 1"
long and 1/4" around. The size of the grub is determined by what kind of bug it will be....I have found them while digging in my yard that were larger than a mans thumb!! Jerri http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond |
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you might know em better as cutworms
John Rutz Priscilla McCullough wrote: Ahhhhhh, what is a Grub? Sounds gross!! Priss wrote in message ... milky spore. completely biological. they say application will work for about 20 years. Ingrid ajames54T wrote: I need to find a fish safe treatment for White Grubs ... they have trashed my neighbors yard and are working on mine. My neighbor is an excellent fellow and has told me he will not spray if I can find a fish safe way to get rid of them. Please don't say "Get a Skunk" we've been trying that and they only do a half assed job. -- John Rutz Z5 New Mexico If it can't be fixed with bailing wire or duct tape its not worth fixing see my pond at: http://www.fuerjefe.com |
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"Priscilla McCullough" wrote in message ...
Ahhhhhh, what is a Grub? Sounds gross!! Priss They're the larva of the June beetle (those big stupid ugly brown things that stun themselves flying into porch lights). The grub is a white fat "worm" up to an inch long, which is found just below the soil surface. It eats grass roots. If you can stand to dig them up yourself, I'm sure they make a great treat for your fish (I have a number of garden pests that I hand-pick and feed to the fish -- *very* satisfying feeling ;-). In addition the biological controls already mentioned, I recommend growing something other than grass -- a monoculture just begs to have a pest come and eat it. Adding clover seed is good place to start (but the general stupidity of the whole idea of the modern lawn is a whole other hobby-horse which I won't ride here ;-). The big thing I'm worried about this year is West Nile Virus -- not that I'll get it (I think the health scare is overblown) but that backyard ponds may be perceived as mosquito breeding grounds, and we may need to do some fast talking to escape being sprayed or whatever. -- Steve |
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Where I live the grubs are usually about 3/16" to 1/4" in diameter and
3/4" to 1" long. They are the larval stage of Japanese beetles. My only complaint with the skunks is I wish they would replace the divots when they're done. "Priscilla McCullough" wrote in message ... Ahhhhhh, what is a Grub? Sounds gross!! Priss |
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:54:55 -0500, ajames54™ wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 21:21:21 GMT, wrote: milky spore. completely biological. they say application will work for about 20 years. Ingrid Thanks all! Unfortunately the Milky Spore is not yet approved for use around here... and the nematodes will be about $80 for enough to cover our two lawns.. ah well until I can figure out just how illegal it will be to import the milky spore (1) I'll have to drop the cash. (1) mostly a joke but you never really know. Don't know about Milky Spore, but most things that'll kill the grubs will do in earthworms, too. Just FYI. Cybe R. Wizard -- Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P. Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P. "Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y. Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L |
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My only complaint with the skunks is I wish they would replace the divots when they're done. Divots? One year they tore up my whole front yard. Only recourse was to tear up what was left and reseed everything. Things were that badly shredded. I had the perfect answer to grubs when I lived in Connecticut. Moles. Dozens of them. Hundreds of them. Hordes of them, everywhere, tunneling day and night. The whole lawn looked like a washboard. The cats dragged in a half dozen every day (not that it seemed to make a dent in the population any), but no grubs. All in all, I just as soon have grubs. Michael Fermanis New Orleans, Louisiana USA (Remove the RICE to reply) ================================================== =========== |
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nope. natural biological that just kills beetle grubs.
http://homeharvest.com/milkspore.html "Cybe R. Wizard" wrote: Don't know about Milky Spore, but most things that'll kill the grubs will do in earthworms, too. Just FYI. |
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The milky spore is expensive.
It only works for grubs of Japanese beetles. Have you taken your grubs down to local your co-operative extension/nursery to confirm they are Japanese beetle larvae, before committing to specific therapy? Greg "ajames54T" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 21:21:21 GMT, wrote: milky spore. completely biological. they say application will work for about 20 years. Ingrid Thanks all! Unfortunately the Milky Spore is not yet approved for use around here... and the nematodes will be about $80 for enough to cover our two lawns.. ah well until I can figure out just how illegal it will be to import the milky spore (1) I'll have to drop the cash. (1) mostly a joke but you never really know. |
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http://homeharvest.com/milkspore.html
Milky Spore - Bacillus popillae " Two kinds of bacteria are known to cause milky disease in grubs. They attack only members of the white grub family. Milky Spore disease affects some-- 47 different varieties of beetle grubs in the U.S. including June Beetle or May Fly grubs, but the Japanese beetle grub is probably the most extensively affected.---- Milky disease bacteria do not infect nor harm other insects, earthworms, birds, warm-blooded animals, humans, or plants." effective 15-20 years. 10oz Covers 2,500 SF $28+ about the cost of 1 nice rose, cheap at the price. Ingrid |
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wrote in message
... http://homeharvest.com/milkspore.html Milky Spore - Bacillus popillae " Two kinds of bacteria are known to cause milky disease in grubs. They attack only members of the white grub family. Milky Spore disease affects some-- 47 different varieties of beetle grubs in the U.S. including June Beetle or May Fly grubs, but the Japanese beetle grub is probably the most extensively affected.---- Milky disease bacteria do not infect nor harm other insects, earthworms, birds, warm-blooded animals, humans, or plants." effective 15-20 years. 10oz Covers 2,500 SF $28+ about the cost of 1 nice rose, cheap at the price. Ingrid That is an interesting reference, from a retailer/reseller of the product. Their web site states "milky spore disease affects 47 diff varieties of beetle grubs..." .. note here the word disease vs. the bacteria they are selling, because the following site: http://www.milkyspore.com/milkyspore.htm which is from St Gabriel's labs, who actually manufacture the product state: "It (Milky Spore) targets and discriminately works to attack the white grubs of Japanese Beetles.. No mention 47 other varieties here! By golly discrepant information again! Who should we believe.. the product reseller or manufacturer??? I think I'll go with the latter. As to the expense, if all you need is to cover 2500 sq ft, then it's not too bad. Many have turfs much larger, and it is pricey. Also if you go to the manufacturer's site I listed, you will see applying it will take time. You need to map out your yard, and be sure to follow their instructions as to when to apply (to avoid inactivation). You can't use a broadcast spreader. If you use a drop spreader you can't use the powder.. you need a special mix, at a higher cost. As I said in my initial post, MS will work for Japanese beetle grubs, and if you are sure you have an infestation of them, then go for it! BUT: I still would recommend before you spend any $$ on MS that you have the grubs checked as I described in my initial post. Good luck, (let me know what you find out about your grubs!) Greg |
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some .edu sites say only japanese beetles, others say other kind of grubs.
here is a .edu site talks about milky spore and OTHER ways of killing grubs using insecticides. cant use both at the same time. http://www.hort.uconn.edu/ipm/homegr...s/37lpests.htm By golly discrepant information again! |
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Nice reference.
Given my druthers, I'd pick a bio. agent (like MS) over a chemical agent, as long as the grubs were responsive to it, even if it cost more, as it's more environmentally sound. wrote in message ... some .edu sites say only japanese beetles, others say other kind of grubs. here is a .edu site talks about milky spore and OTHER ways of killing grubs using insecticides. cant use both at the same time. http://www.hort.uconn.edu/ipm/homegr...s/37lpests.htm By golly discrepant information again! |
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What you do at this point is borrow a dog if you don't want one full
time. Especially a lab type of dog. They'll dig all the mole hills up, making the little vermin leave. Yea, you have massive ditches where you had moles, BUT you have the sick satisfaction that they left in fear and the dog is REALLY happy! :) I had the perfect answer to grubs when I lived in Connecticut. Moles. Dozens of them. Hundreds of them. Hordes of them, everywhere, tunneling day and night. The whole lawn looked like a washboard. The cats dragged in a half dozen every day (not that it seemed to make a dent in the population any), but no grubs. All in all, I just as soon have grubs. Michael Fermanis New Orleans, Louisiana USA (Remove the RICE to reply) ================================================== =========== |
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On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 16:49:18 GMT, "Gregory Young"
wrote: Gregory... Any idea if Milky spore is available in the buffalo area? (I caught the buffalo.edu address). The Nematode solution (I'm told) will only work if the soil temp is constantly above 15C... I did a count on Saturday .. I dug up approx 1 square foot of soil and counted 8 grubs sigh |
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