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K30a 01-05-2003 03:56 AM

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Yes they like to lay their eggs around a plant.
Or you can net the bunch of eggs out and put them aside in a bucket of pond
water while you clean.


k30a

jammer 01-05-2003 04:20 AM

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On 01 May 2003 02:53:32 GMT, ESPMER (K30a) wrote:


Yes they like to lay their eggs around a plant.
Or you can net the bunch of eggs out and put them aside in a bucket of pond
water while you clean.


k30a


My goldfish are such bullies and hungry ones at that. I don't think
there would be one egg left and certainly not a single tadpole
changing into a toad. I was considering trying to house some in a 10
gallon aquarium...anyone done this?

Jim 01-05-2003 04:56 AM

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And now i have for the first time in my life, a toad calling for a
mate in my pond in my backyard. TOO COOL.


I've had a toad hollering for a mate for the past 8-10 days. I sure
wish he'd find one so I can get some sleep. :)

Jim
Zone 8a - Dallas, Texas
Pond, Veggie Filter, Pond Maintenance & Pond Tour Pics:
http://community.webshots.com/user/dallas75248

jammer 01-05-2003 05:20 AM

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On 01 May 2003 03:26:59 GMT, ESPMER (K30a) wrote:

jammer wrote I was considering trying to house some in a 10
gallon aquarium...anyone done this?

But of course!
(note: fish usually hate toad eggs, taddies and toadlets, they taste bad.)


Then i have nothing to worry about? Cool! (Unless my lttle monsters
are an exception)

I can't go answering this until i scream with joy at what else
happened tonight. The toads have never been afraid of me in past
years, but i have never had a pond or a calling toad in my yard. Well,
i decided to try and see how close i could get to the calling toad
because at 44 yrs. young, i have never in real life, seen a calling
toad with it's throat all puffed out. He let me make him the spotlight
feature of the evening as i sat there in the grass with a flashlight
on him as he did his thing. Then, am i wrong, or is the female
answering little chirping noises? (Or is that still him?) It was very
cool for me to see this. I sleep happier than i've been in 2 weeks.
tonight. Tomorrow i clean the pond of bottom and shelve much. (Pond is
clear to the bottom with no filter, pump, etc. I am pleased so far)
Ok where was I?

I won't worry too much about the toad eggs.


One year a second grade teacher and I took a slew of treefrog eggs from her
parent's pool cover and distributed the lot to almost every 1st, 2nd and 3rd
grade teacher in our school. I made up an instruction sheet for each teacher
about egg and taddie raising and then the teachers arrived with their
containers.
Also in the mix of eggs and taddies were several mating couples. The canoodling
couples could not decide to run for it or hang on to their loved one.
Add in a couple second graders, escaping frogs and questions about exactly
*what* were the frogs doing, teachers in a hurry before the bell rang... well,
I'll never forget it. ;-)
I took care of our classes tank. They ate anacharis by the bucketful. In the
middle of our tank of tadpoles appeared a tiny fish. We figured he came in as
an egg with the anacharis. We named him Egghead and he came home to live with
us when the year was done.


The fish named egghead made me laugh out loud.


Most of the frogs were released back into the 'wild' suburb from whence they
came. I wrote up another sheet on how to feed baby frogs and keep them as pets.
(Parents had to sign a form before the frogs were allowed to go home with the
children.) I think I adopted about three rejects.


I love the permission slip idea. I was going to do that with baby gold
fish if need be, but my canibals took care of any potential problem
there.

Here is my tadpole nursery answer
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A tadpole nursery is an easy affair to put together.
Set up a child's wading pool or a low a wide container in a shady area of the
yard, allowing for a few hours of morning sun.
Cover the bottom with some gravel or pebbles and fill the nursery pond with
pond water. Put in a nice boulder-ish type rock or stick up piece of wood up
against the side for the froglets/toadlets to exit the pond when they are
ready.


Paints a cute picture. I sure would like some little (vegetarian)
turtles too...


Finally, add a nice assortment of pond slime, underwater plants, decaying lily
leaves, some yard waste (as long as it has not been treated with herbicide or
pesticide). You can get really carried away and lightly boil some organic
lettuce for a treat. Do not feed fish food that is high in protein but a dead
worm very infrequently will be enjoyed
Watch the ammonia level in your nursery. Do water changes, add more underwater
plants and/or a few pots of marginal plants instead of adding chemicals.
Once the tadpoles metamorphose into frogs or toads you will have the bonus of
bug eating machines to benefit your garden.


*Grin* Let's see, pond water, plants, more plants, pond slime, water
changes..........I need another little pond !!

(And i don't use outdoor chemicals, EVER)

Thanks for this, i appreciate it.
juls



k30a



jammer 01-05-2003 05:20 AM

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tonight. Tomorrow i clean the pond of bottom and shelve much.

That is supposed to be MUCK. My spell checker is retarded. I never
even use it, guess i'll go back to not using it.

K30a 01-05-2003 05:20 AM

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Jammer wrote Then, am i wrong, or is the female
answering little chirping noises?

Could be. Females, when they talk, have short calls.

And calling males will sometimes allow you to pick
them up. Ah-hem, their little amphibian male brains are only on one thing ;-)


k30a

K30a 01-05-2003 05:32 AM

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P.S. ~~ do watch the ammonia levels in your
pond. Lots of frog spawning can cause an ammonia
spike. If your pond gets overwhelmed with toad eggs and the ammonia spikes
you'll want to get some of them out and raise elsewhere. Some
people in frog/toad country, especially in the SE keep a baby pool around for
that purpose.


k30a

jammer 01-05-2003 05:32 AM

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On 01 May 2003 04:18:43 GMT, ESPMER (K30a) wrote:

Jammer wrote Then, am i wrong, or is the female
answering little chirping noises?

Could be. Females, when they talk, have short calls.

And calling males will sometimes allow you to pick
them up. Ah-hem, their little amphibian male brains are only on one thing ;-)


k30a


Well there sure isn't anyone i know that i can call and tell and I was
just so excited....:) ! Let's not discuss this, but my best friend
died one week ago and he was the only one who i could call with
nature stuff. So if i seem to uh, over share? Please forgive me.
Haha....just please nod and look interested a little:)

Thanks

jammer 01-05-2003 05:32 AM

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On 01 May 2003 04:20:38 GMT, ESPMER (K30a) wrote:


P.S. ~~ do watch the ammonia levels in your
pond. Lots of frog spawning can cause an ammonia
spike. If your pond gets overwhelmed with toad eggs and the ammonia spikes
you'll want to get some of them out and raise elsewhere. Some
people in frog/toad country, especially in the SE keep a baby pool around for
that purpose.


k30a


Wow, thank you. Maybe i will have to get a test kit after all...

jammer 01-05-2003 05:32 AM

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On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:52:54 -0500, Jim wrote:

I've had a toad hollering for a mate for the past 8-10 days. I sure
wish he'd find one so I can get some sleep. :)


Haha...yes, well, i hope the roommate doesn't feel that way. it's on
his side of the house.

jammer 03-05-2003 12:21 AM

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On Fri, 2 May 2003 09:13:16 -0400, "BenignVanilla"
m wrote:


"jammer" j@mmer wrote in message
.. .
On 01 May 2003 03:26:59 GMT, ESPMER (K30a) wrote:

Well, i have 2 toads riding piggy back and 2 fighting each other. It's
too cool.


Hey how about some toad-porn? Have you taken any picture? *Like I should
talk...*

BV.
aka Been Promising Pictures for Weeks


No, it was about 11pm when they started doing that.....i dont have a
flash.



jammer 11-05-2003 11:20 PM

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On 01 May 2003 04:20:38 GMT, ESPMER (K30a) wrote:


P.S. ~~ do watch the ammonia levels in your
pond. Lots of frog spawning can cause an ammonia
spike. If your pond gets overwhelmed with toad eggs and the ammonia spikes
you'll want to get some of them out and raise elsewhere. Some
people in frog/toad country, especially in the SE keep a baby pool around for
that purpose.


k30a


Did you ever get results boiling lettuce? Some, whether inured in the
attack or by natural causes, were dead in the pool today. I did a
partial water change and added the recommended amount of declor. All
the tads that liked cheerios are gone, plus that isn't frog food.
Maybe i will go to the pet store and get something that floats for
them to eat. I have nothing in the house i can try. I took two bricks
with algea on them out of the pond and put them in the kiddie pool.
There is no scum that i can scrape up, so they have anacharis and
maybe the pool will grow algea soon.

I am feeling a bit guilty about not covering the pool and letting the
babies get eaten!

K30a 12-05-2003 12:56 AM

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Boiling the lettuce a bit longer worked.
Get it to where it looks translucent.

Baby anythings are part of the food web.
If they all survived, heavens, we'd be up
to our noses in all sorts of critters!


k30a

jammer 12-05-2003 03:20 AM

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On 11 May 2003 23:51:04 GMT, ESPMER (K30a) wrote:

Boiling the lettuce a bit longer worked.
Get it to where it looks translucent.

Baby anythings are part of the food web.
If they all survived, heavens, we'd be up
to our noses in all sorts of critters!


k30a


I realize that. That is why they lay all those eggs and I have 5
toads. I suspect the number will be greater next year and then of
course they'll lay eggs again next year and by the 2nd year, the males
will be ready and the females the third, to mate. (The babies) That
wasn't written too well was it? haha

I wrapped up some orange wedges at dinner to bring home but forgot
them. I will go to the pet store tomorrw and get them something. I am
worried about them because the tads in the pond are larger. I found
some new born goldfish today, oh my!


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