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Golden Orfe
Anyone keeping golden orfe's with their Koi? Mine are such voracious eaters
I'm wondering if my Koi spawns are being eaten by them. How big do they get? |
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Golden Orfe
Dan wrote:
Anyone keeping golden orfe's with their Koi? Mine are such voracious eaters I'm wondering if my Koi spawns are being eaten by them. How big do they get? I don't have orfe in with the koi, but I do have them in with the goldfish. They do a good job of keeping the fry to a managable level - some fry do survive but not many. The orfe are about 12" at 5 or 6 years old. -- Bonnie NJ http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/ |
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Golden Orfe
they are very good population control. Ingrid
"Dan" wrote: Anyone keeping golden orfe's with their Koi? Mine are such voracious eaters I'm wondering if my Koi spawns are being eaten by them. How big do they get? |
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Golden Orfe
I have 9 of them with the Koi, and that works just fine
They grow about as fast as carp in the first years, and get up to about 10 - 12 inches. They are faster/more agressive than koi when it comes to food, so you have to adapt your feeding to that (all fish approach, I first throw stuff in the middle of the pond, the sharks, erm, orfes dive to that food, then I feed the koi) They will also do population control on insects BTW, they can jump out of the water to catch a bumble bee... One of the weirdest things about them is that they can "fly" over the water with just their tail in it, attaining serious speeds. They are also stronger than koi, but at the same time react quicker to stress situations, so they can serve as an "early warning" system. Anyway, others may have more negative experiences, but I'm very happy I put them in 5 years ago. schreef in bericht ... they are very good population control. Ingrid "Dan" wrote: Anyone keeping golden orfe's with their Koi? Mine are such voracious eaters I'm wondering if my Koi spawns are being eaten by them. How big do they get? |
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Golden Orfe
They will also do population control on insects BTW, they can jump out
of the water to catch a bumble bee... One of the weirdest things about them is that they can "fly" over the water with just their tail in it, attaining serious speeds. They also "fly" straight over the pond edge from time to time. I've lost four 12"-14" ones in the past two years because I didn't find them before they got "sun-dried"! -- GB Extract digit to email. |
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Hmm... yeah, there's that !
When I rebuilt my pond this year (and had them all under the deck), the next morning, I found 2 of them back in the pond I was draining, and one lying on the ground next to it. They had just jumped "the fence". Apparently I was just quick enough (I think half an hour max), put it back into the water, rocked it gently, and suddenly it started to swim again like nothing ever happened. One of the little things I learned from that is to "inspect" the pond every morning & every afternoon for fish that tried to find "a way out"... Theo PS: bigfoot... IIRC, isn't that a police thingy in the UK ? |
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Golden Orfe
Theo van Daele wrote:
Hmm... yeah, there's that ! When I rebuilt my pond this year (and had them all under the deck), the next morning, I found 2 of them back in the pond I was draining, and one lying on the ground next to it. They had just jumped "the fence". Apparently I was just quick enough (I think half an hour max), put it back into the water, rocked it gently, and suddenly it started to swim again like nothing ever happened. One of the little things I learned from that is to "inspect" the pond every morning & every afternoon for fish that tried to find "a way out"... Theo PS: bigfoot... IIRC, isn't that a police thingy in the UK ? Earlier this Spring when we moved the 2 year old koi into the kiddie pool one jumped out. I found it in time and walked it until I got tired then DH took over for awhile. Then we let the fish go, thinking if it makes it fine if not we tried. The other fish in the pool took over and swam with this fish. One or either side and forced it to swim. This continued until the fish was swimming on its own. My DH was amazed and so was I. I had heard of this happening but never saw it myself. It's been 2 weeks and the fish are all doing fine. I must also say that they are all going to a good home - a large new pond that is now being constructed! -- Bonnie NJ http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/ |
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Golden Orfe
Bonnie, My Koi came to the rescue of their brother/sister and swam
with it until it was able to go it alone. Made me cry to see them. Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Bonnie Espenshade" wrote in message ... Theo van Daele wrote: Hmm... yeah, there's that ! When I rebuilt my pond this year (and had them all under the deck), the next morning, I found 2 of them back in the pond I was draining, and one lying on the ground next to it. They had just jumped "the fence". Apparently I was just quick enough (I think half an hour max), put it back into the water, rocked it gently, and suddenly it started to swim again like nothing ever happened. One of the little things I learned from that is to "inspect" the pond every morning & every afternoon for fish that tried to find "a way out"... Theo PS: bigfoot... IIRC, isn't that a police thingy in the UK ? Earlier this Spring when we moved the 2 year old koi into the kiddie pool one jumped out. I found it in time and walked it until I got tired then DH took over for awhile. Then we let the fish go, thinking if it makes it fine if not we tried. The other fish in the pool took over and swam with this fish. One or either side and forced it to swim. This continued until the fish was swimming on its own. My DH was amazed and so was I. I had heard of this happening but never saw it myself. It's been 2 weeks and the fish are all doing fine. I must also say that they are all going to a good home - a large new pond that is now being constructed! -- Bonnie NJ http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/ |
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Golden Orfe
Nedra wrote:
Bonnie, My Koi came to the rescue of their brother/sister and swam with it until it was able to go it alone. Made me cry to see them. Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 Hi Nedra, It really was amazing to watch. -- Bonnie NJ http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/ |
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Golden Orfe
I can imagine...
I was just sitting at the pond (in the rain ) and was wondering why there is so little agression between those animals. Plump in a new fish, and it gets accepted same instant. I haven't had the honour to watch what you did, but I can imagine it being a bit of a mindblowing experience :-) Theo "Bonnie Espenshade" schreef in bericht ... Nedra wrote: Bonnie, My Koi came to the rescue of their brother/sister and swam with it until it was able to go it alone. Made me cry to see them. Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 |
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Golden Orfe
PS: bigfoot... IIRC, isn't that a police thingy in the UK ? Hi Theo, I think you must be thinking of "Flat-foot". It's one of the more polite names applied to UK police. Years of pavement (sidewalk) pounding in London definitely flattened mine! -- GB |
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