Veggie Filter size
I just recently completed my waterfall last weekend and it's looking very
nice, it's roughly 3 1/2 feet high and flows about 6 feet into a 20 gal basin...with a little 5 gal basin at the top. My question is this...I can already tell that I want to add a pond right beside it which will be fed from the 20 gal(it has an overflow spillway) and I want to eventually turn the 20 gallon basin into a veggie filter and use that only, the pond will be no bigger than 150-200 gal and will include a few(less than 10) fish and various plants....will the 20 gal basin be big enough and what is the best plant to use? Should I get another small filter(bottom) to go along with the VF? I saw someone's pics of their VF the other day and it looked to be a small clover type plant....what is that? I want to go as natural as possible with my pond. Thanks in advance! ~Wilson~ |
Veggie Filter size
Hi Wilson,
If you do decide to add on a bio-filter as well as your veggie filter, you might want to re-think using an "in-pond" type. Think "Maintenance". External filters are much easier to maintain. Mark "Wilson" wrote in message ... I just recently completed my waterfall last weekend and it's looking very nice, it's roughly 3 1/2 feet high and flows about 6 feet into a 20 gal basin...with a little 5 gal basin at the top. My question is this...I can already tell that I want to add a pond right beside it which will be fed from the 20 gal(it has an overflow spillway) and I want to eventually turn the 20 gallon basin into a veggie filter and use that only, the pond will be no bigger than 150-200 gal and will include a few(less than 10) fish and various plants....will the 20 gal basin be big enough and what is the best plant to use? Should I get another small filter(bottom) to go along with the VF? I saw someone's pics of their VF the other day and it looked to be a small clover type plant....what is that? I want to go as natural as possible with my pond. Thanks in advance! ~Wilson~ |
Veggie Filter size
Now here Wilson, let me break this down to you!
You are like a bass fish, and ponding is like a fisherman. Ponding has cast it's bait and hook, you my friend has bit on the baited hook, all that is left for Ponding (Fisherman) to do now is reel you in baby! You've caught the ponding bug! You might as well just give in to this addiction and go ahead and build yourself a big enough pond! Otherwise you will be back here asking us how to convert your 200 gallon pond to a veggie filter and how to join a preformed 200 gallon pond to a 2000 gallon epdm lined pond! Haaaah! I feel so much better now! Welcome to our little POND club! -- _______________________________________ "The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'." http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino "Wilson" wrote in message ... I just recently completed my waterfall last weekend and it's looking very nice, it's roughly 3 1/2 feet high and flows about 6 feet into a 20 gal basin...with a little 5 gal basin at the top. My question is this...I can already tell that I want to add a pond right beside it which will be fed from the 20 gal(it has an overflow spillway) and I want to eventually turn the 20 gallon basin into a veggie filter and use that only, the pond will be no bigger than 150-200 gal and will include a few(less than 10) fish and various plants....will the 20 gal basin be big enough and what is the best plant to use? Should I get another small filter(bottom) to go along with the VF? I saw someone's pics of their VF the other day and it looked to be a small clover type plant....what is that? I want to go as natural as possible with my pond. Thanks in advance! ~Wilson~ |
Veggie Filter size
PS:
See "my wife is the best" thread below! That my friend is what happens to your whole family when you catch the pond fever! -- _______________________________________ "The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'." http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino "Wilson" wrote in message ... I just recently completed my waterfall last weekend and it's looking very nice, it's roughly 3 1/2 feet high and flows about 6 feet into a 20 gal basin...with a little 5 gal basin at the top. My question is this...I can already tell that I want to add a pond right beside it which will be fed from the 20 gal(it has an overflow spillway) and I want to eventually turn the 20 gallon basin into a veggie filter and use that only, the pond will be no bigger than 150-200 gal and will include a few(less than 10) fish and various plants....will the 20 gal basin be big enough and what is the best plant to use? Should I get another small filter(bottom) to go along with the VF? I saw someone's pics of their VF the other day and it looked to be a small clover type plant....what is that? I want to go as natural as possible with my pond. Thanks in advance! ~Wilson~ |
Veggie Filter size
"Just Me "Koi"" wrote in message ... PS: See "my wife is the best" thread below! That my friend is what happens to your whole family when you catch the pond fever! Read it :) |
Veggie Filter size
"Just Me "Koi"" wrote in message ... Now here Wilson, let me break this down to you! You are like a bass fish, and ponding is like a fisherman. Ponding has cast it's bait and hook, you my friend has bit on the baited hook, all that is left for Ponding (Fisherman) to do now is reel you in baby! You've caught the ponding bug! You might as well just give in to this addiction and go ahead and build yourself a big enough pond! Otherwise you will be back here asking us how to convert your 200 gallon pond to a veggie filter and how to join a preformed 200 gallon pond to a 2000 gallon epdm lined pond! Haaaah! I feel so much better now! Welcome to our little POND club! I get the feeling you're trying to say a 200 gal pond isn't really a pond. :) I would but I just don't have the room....and from my aquarium experience, yes I do realize a bigger pond/tank is easier to take care of. My wife wasn't thrilled at all about the idea of having any kind of water feature in the yard until I(sneakily) built a little raspberry garden in the corner of the yard for her.....I then sunk a little 10 gal. preform and a small pump in the middle and set up a little frog that shoots the water out of his mouth, lined it with some really nice river rock I had lying around....it looks really sharp! At first she turned her nose up at it, but I've since caught her filling it up with water every night and going over to look at it quite a lot. I then got the ok from the boss to build my waterfall:) ......and this is important....nothing bigger than 200 gal. :P ~Wilson~ |
Veggie Filter size
"Just Me "Koi"" wrote in message ... PS: See "my wife is the best" thread below! That my friend is what happens to your whole family when you catch the pond fever! Read it :) |
Veggie Filter size
"Just Me "Koi"" wrote in message ... Now here Wilson, let me break this down to you! You are like a bass fish, and ponding is like a fisherman. Ponding has cast it's bait and hook, you my friend has bit on the baited hook, all that is left for Ponding (Fisherman) to do now is reel you in baby! You've caught the ponding bug! You might as well just give in to this addiction and go ahead and build yourself a big enough pond! Otherwise you will be back here asking us how to convert your 200 gallon pond to a veggie filter and how to join a preformed 200 gallon pond to a 2000 gallon epdm lined pond! Haaaah! I feel so much better now! Welcome to our little POND club! I get the feeling you're trying to say a 200 gal pond isn't really a pond. :) I would but I just don't have the room....and from my aquarium experience, yes I do realize a bigger pond/tank is easier to take care of. My wife wasn't thrilled at all about the idea of having any kind of water feature in the yard until I(sneakily) built a little raspberry garden in the corner of the yard for her.....I then sunk a little 10 gal. preform and a small pump in the middle and set up a little frog that shoots the water out of his mouth, lined it with some really nice river rock I had lying around....it looks really sharp! At first she turned her nose up at it, but I've since caught her filling it up with water every night and going over to look at it quite a lot. I then got the ok from the boss to build my waterfall:) ......and this is important....nothing bigger than 200 gal. :P ~Wilson~ |
Veggie Filter size
Wilson,
Welcome to the 'getting hooked' club. Starting at 200 is a good start. Maybe you and your wife will get hooked. With regard to the veggie filter, think surface not gallons. 200/20 is a gallon comparison. The general recommendation is a veggie filter of not less than 10% of the pond surface. The goal is enough room for bacteria to convert nitrites, for muck to settle or be filtered and for vascular plants to out do algae by grabbing nutrients nutrients. Most of us use plants that grow like mad and have good root systems. Happy ponding! Jim -- ____________________________________________ Check out Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $140+ per jogger) at: www.jogathon.net See our pond at: http://www.home.bellsouth.net/p/pwp-jameshurley "Wilson" wrote in message ... I just recently completed my waterfall last weekend and it's looking very nice, it's roughly 3 1/2 feet high and flows about 6 feet into a 20 gal basin...with a little 5 gal basin at the top. My question is this...I can already tell that I want to add a pond right beside it which will be fed from the 20 gal(it has an overflow spillway) and I want to eventually turn the 20 gallon basin into a veggie filter and use that only, the pond will be no bigger than 150-200 gal and will include a few(less than 10) fish and various plants....will the 20 gal basin be big enough and what is the best plant to use? Should I get another small filter(bottom) to go along with the VF? I saw someone's pics of their VF the other day and it looked to be a small clover type plant....what is that? I want to go as natural as possible with my pond. Thanks in advance! ~Wilson~ |
Veggie Filter size
"Just Me "Koi"" wrote in message
... Now here Wilson, let me break this down to you! You are like a bass fish, and ponding is like a fisherman. Ponding has cast it's bait and hook, you my friend has bit on the baited hook, all that is left for Ponding (Fisherman) to do now is reel you in baby! You've caught the ponding bug! You might as well just give in to this addiction and go ahead and build yourself a big enough pond! Otherwise you will be back here asking us how to convert your 200 gallon pond to a veggie filter and how to join a preformed 200 gallon pond to a 2000 gallon epdm lined pond! Haaaah! I feel so much better now! Welcome to our little POND club! JMK...you hypocritcal porger you!!! In another thread you visciously attacked me for thinking of my next pond even though Shareholders Pond is not quite done, and here you are in another thread encouraging this PORG to build a bigger pond. *sniffle* I feel so...so...used... BV. in jest of course... |
Veggie Filter size
"Just Me "Koi"" wrote in message
... PS: See "my wife is the best" thread below! That my friend is what happens to your whole family when you catch the pond fever! snip That post coming from the guy with the second best wife. BV. |
Veggie Filter size
"Phyllis and Jim Hurley" wrote in
message .. . Wilson, Welcome to the 'getting hooked' club. Starting at 200 is a good start. Maybe you and your wife will get hooked. With regard to the veggie filter, think surface not gallons. 200/20 is a gallon comparison. The general recommendation is a veggie filter of not less than 10% of the pond surface. The goal is enough room for bacteria to convert nitrites, for muck to settle or be filtered and for vascular plants to out do algae by grabbing nutrients nutrients. Most of us use plants that grow like mad and have good root systems. I am finding the Water Hyacinth to be my best filter so far. The anacharis seems like a strong contender as do the Water Iris. I think the celery and parrot's feather will form a close send soon. BV. |
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