need help to identify eggs in pond
Hello, one of my 13" koi has been looking pretty fat in the belly area.
For the last 24-36 hrs one of the other koi has been following nudging this one fat koi. My question is, do the koi lay live fish or eggs? The reason is that there are a thousand 1/16" eggs stuck to my plants, pumps, some rocks and I was wondering what the deal was. I also have 4, 5-6" pond comets in this 700 gallon pond. Can anyone hazard a guess? Thanks for any info. Oh, the fish seem to be hanging right near where the waterfall cascades on the rocks, all side by side and facing the falls. Are they there because I have low oxygen? A 1/4 water change didn't seem to make a diff. Bruce ps, remove SPAMNOT to reply off list. |
need help to identify eggs in pond
Bruce,
Koi and goldfish both are egg layers. It sounds as if there was a spawn, but from your post, I doubt that it was the koi. Koi usually aren't old enough to spawn at 13". The koi would have lost most of its size during the spawn, not gotten bigger. The female koi will look really skinny following the egg laying. The act of spawning by koi, (I don't know about goldfish) is very violent. The male will be pushing and shoving the female against the sides of the pond, plant baskets or anything else, and you will think he is trying to push her out of the pond, no simple nudging. Usually for the first two or three days they eat the eggs as fast as they can. Between the milt from the male, which is nearly pure protein, and the additional load of eating, the ammonia level will go very high and burn the gills if not treated. The fish staying under the waterfall may be showing the signs of ammonia burns. Check the ammonia and if it is high, add amquel to bind the ammonia into the non-toxic ammonium. Since the filter changes the ammonia to nitrites, the nitrites will also go very high, and cause suffocation, by causing brown blood disease. Check the nitrites and if high, add salt to get a 0.1% salt level. Don't feed until all of the eggs are gone or hatched, such that you don't see them. I suspect the spawn was the comets. Good luck. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "Bruce" wrote in message ... Hello, one of my 13" koi has been looking pretty fat in the belly area. For the last 24-36 hrs one of the other koi has been following nudging this one fat koi. My question is, do the koi lay live fish or eggs? The reason is that there are a thousand 1/16" eggs stuck to my plants, pumps, some rocks and I was wondering what the deal was. I also have 4, 5-6" pond comets in this 700 gallon pond. Can anyone hazard a guess? Thanks for any info. Oh, the fish seem to be hanging right near where the waterfall cascades on the rocks, all side by side and facing the falls. Are they there because I have low oxygen? A 1/4 water change didn't seem to make a diff. Bruce ps, remove SPAMNOT to reply off list. |
need help to identify eggs in pond
Sticky eggs are fish eggs.
Koi and goldfish are not live bearers. Is hanging out in the waterfall new behavior? Has the temperature risen lately? Do you have any water tests? Spawning can cause water quality problems. And it sounds like you might be over stocked. We figure 1,000 gallons for the first koi and 100 gallons for every koi added. Comets should have 20 gallons each. k30a |
need help to identify eggs in pond
How many 13" koi do you have alnog with those big comets in your 700
gallon pond? I thought i had fish eggs and now i have baby snails everywhere. Glad i didnt trade for them! haha On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 01:16:19 GMT, Bruce wrote: Hello, one of my 13" koi has been looking pretty fat in the belly area. For the last 24-36 hrs one of the other koi has been following nudging this one fat koi. My question is, do the koi lay live fish or eggs? The reason is that there are a thousand 1/16" eggs stuck to my plants, pumps, some rocks and I was wondering what the deal was. I also have 4, 5-6" pond comets in this 700 gallon pond. Can anyone hazard a guess? Thanks for any info. Oh, the fish seem to be hanging right near where the waterfall cascades on the rocks, all side by side and facing the falls. Are they there because I have low oxygen? A 1/4 water change didn't seem to make a diff. Bruce ps, remove SPAMNOT to reply off list. |
need help to identify eggs in pond
Koi are bigger than 13" when they spawn? Wow.
(it's true! you do learn something new every day!) On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 01:37:05 GMT, "RichToyBox" wrote: Bruce, Koi and goldfish both are egg layers. It sounds as if there was a spawn, but from your post, I doubt that it was the koi. Koi usually aren't old enough to spawn at 13". The koi would have lost most of its size during the spawn, not gotten bigger. The female koi will look really skinny following the egg laying. The act of spawning by koi, (I don't know about goldfish) is very violent. The male will be pushing and shoving the female against the sides of the pond, plant baskets or anything else, and you will think he is trying to push her out of the pond, no simple nudging. Usually for the first two or three days they eat the eggs as fast as they can. Between the milt from the male, which is nearly pure protein, and the additional load of eating, the ammonia level will go very high and burn the gills if not treated. The fish staying under the waterfall may be showing the signs of ammonia burns. Check the ammonia and if it is high, add amquel to bind the ammonia into the non-toxic ammonium. Since the filter changes the ammonia to nitrites, the nitrites will also go very high, and cause suffocation, by causing brown blood disease. Check the nitrites and if high, add salt to get a 0.1% salt level. Don't feed until all of the eggs are gone or hatched, such that you don't see them. I suspect the spawn was the comets. Good luck. |
need help to identify eggs in pond
rich normaly yes a koi will be biger than 12-14 in when old enough to
spawn, but i have a couple in my pond I know are at least 3-4 yrs old that spawned this summer and are only 7-8 in The pond I got em from and my pond were overcrowded with goldfish and stunted them it does happen once in a while RichToyBox wrote: Bruce, Koi and goldfish both are egg layers. It sounds as if there was a spawn, but from your post, I doubt that it was the koi. Koi usually aren't old enough to spawn at 13". The koi would have lost most of its size during the spawn, not gotten bigger. The female koi will look really skinny following the egg laying. The act of spawning by koi, (I don't know about goldfish) is very violent. The male will be pushing and shoving the female against the sides of the pond, plant baskets or anything else, and you will think he is trying to push her out of the pond, no simple nudging. Usually for the first two or three days they eat the eggs as fast as they can. Between the milt from the male, which is nearly pure protein, and the additional load of eating, the ammonia level will go very high and burn the gills if not treated. The fish staying under the waterfall may be showing the signs of ammonia burns. Check the ammonia and if it is high, add amquel to bind the ammonia into the non-toxic ammonium. Since the filter changes the ammonia to nitrites, the nitrites will also go very high, and cause suffocation, by causing brown blood disease. Check the nitrites and if high, add salt to get a 0.1% salt level. Don't feed until all of the eggs are gone or hatched, such that you don't see them. I suspect the spawn was the comets. Good luck. -- John Rutz Z5 New Mexico never miss a good oportunity to shut up see my pond at: http://www.fuerjefe.com |
need help to identify eggs in pond
Agreed. The qualifier was usually aren't old enough. I have seem smaller
ones spawn, but it is rare. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "John Rutz" wrote in message ... rich normaly yes a koi will be biger than 12-14 in when old enough to spawn, but i have a couple in my pond I know are at least 3-4 yrs old that spawned this summer and are only 7-8 in The pond I got em from and my pond were overcrowded with goldfish and stunted them it does happen once in a while RichToyBox wrote: Bruce, Koi and goldfish both are egg layers. It sounds as if there was a spawn, but from your post, I doubt that it was the koi. Koi usually aren't old enough to spawn at 13". The koi would have lost most of its size during the spawn, not gotten bigger. The female koi will look really skinny following the egg laying. The act of spawning by koi, (I don't know about goldfish) is very violent. The male will be pushing and shoving the female against the sides of the pond, plant baskets or anything else, and you will think he is trying to push her out of the pond, no simple nudging. Usually for the first two or three days they eat the eggs as fast as they can. Between the milt from the male, which is nearly pure protein, and the additional load of eating, the ammonia level will go very high and burn the gills if not treated. The fish staying under the waterfall may be showing the signs of ammonia burns. Check the ammonia and if it is high, add amquel to bind the ammonia into the non-toxic ammonium. Since the filter changes the ammonia to nitrites, the nitrites will also go very high, and cause suffocation, by causing brown blood disease. Check the nitrites and if high, add salt to get a 0.1% salt level. Don't feed until all of the eggs are gone or hatched, such that you don't see them. I suspect the spawn was the comets. Good luck. -- John Rutz Z5 New Mexico never miss a good oportunity to shut up see my pond at: http://www.fuerjefe.com |
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