Yikes! I seem to be in the pond screen business.

I searched around for a screen to put on my pond this fall but could
not find a suitable one. So I built one. Other people asked me to
make one for them so I did. I made design improvements as I went
along, making it easy to disassemble for storage, easy to clean, etc.

The next thing you know I am in business. The company I work for gave
me a corner of their www site to display the screen and even will
process the orders for me.

Take a look at my design at www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm
and see what you think. I would be interested in your comments.

John

John, my teeny little preform doesn't really need a screen, but I think your
prices are reasonable, based on the effort that they would save pond owners!

I also like the photo of the woman lifting the thing up for cleaning. I
assume that the screen would stay in place during a heavy wind, although
people in the snow belt -- where I no longer live, thank you very much! --
might be concerned about the weight of the snow vs. wind, etc.

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC



"John Bachman" wrote in message
...
Yikes! I seem to be in the pond screen business.

I searched around for a screen to put on my pond this fall but could
not find a suitable one. So I built one. Other people asked me to
make one for them so I did. I made design improvements as I went
along, making it easy to disassemble for storage, easy to clean, etc.

The next thing you know I am in business. The company I work for gave
me a corner of their www site to display the screen and even will
process the orders for me.

Take a look at my design at www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm
and see what you think. I would be interested in your comments.

John

On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 22:14:43 GMT, "Anne Lurie"
wrote:

John, my teeny little preform doesn't really need a screen, but I think your
prices are reasonable, based on the effort that they would save pond owners!

I also like the photo of the woman lifting the thing up for cleaning. I
assume that the screen would stay in place during a heavy wind, although
people in the snow belt -- where I no longer live, thank you very much! --
might be concerned about the weight of the snow vs. wind, etc.

Well, I am one of those snow belt folks myself. I do not intend to
leave the screen up for the winter - just the fall leaf season. I am
thinking about a plastic cover for the spring - warm things up early.
Is that a good idea?

John


"John Bachman" wrote in message
.. .
Yikes! I seem to be in the pond screen business.

I searched around for a screen to put on my pond this fall but could
not find a suitable one. So I built one. Other people asked me to
make one for them so I did. I made design improvements as I went
along, making it easy to disassemble for storage, easy to clean, etc.

The next thing you know I am in business. The company I work for gave
me a corner of their www site to display the screen and even will
process the orders for me.

Take a look at my design at www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm
and see what you think. I would be interested in your comments.

John

Yes. As soon as the pond reaches about 50 degrees, I would encourage the
use of the plastic to bring the temperature up to over 60 as fast as
possible. Then keep the cover on until the average temperature day/night is
above 60 before removing it. This will get you through what is referred to
as aeromonas alley. The opportunity for the fish to get to a temperature
where the immune system will start to strengthen before the fish have a
chance to get sick is very beneficial.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"John Bachman" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 22:14:43 GMT, "Anne Lurie"
wrote:

John, my teeny little preform doesn't really need a screen, but I think
your
prices are reasonable, based on the effort that they would save pond
owners!

I also like the photo of the woman lifting the thing up for cleaning. I
assume that the screen would stay in place during a heavy wind, although
people in the snow belt -- where I no longer live, thank you very
uch! --
might be concerned about the weight of the snow vs. wind, etc.

Well, I am one of those snow belt folks myself. I do not intend to
leave the screen up for the winter - just the fall leaf season. I am
thinking about a plastic cover for the spring - warm things up early.
Is that a good idea?

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 00:02:40 GMT, "RichToyBox"
wrote:

Yes. As soon as the pond reaches about 50 degrees, I would encourage the
use of the plastic to bring the temperature up to over 60 as fast as
possible. Then keep the cover on until the average temperature day/night is
above 60 before removing it. This will get you through what is referred to
as aeromonas alley. The opportunity for the fish to get to a temperature
where the immune system will start to strengthen before the fish have a
chance to get sick is very beneficial.

OK. I will work on a "greenhouse" cover for the leaf & debris frame.
Something to do this winter! Cool.

John

I think you could drop the price by having folks go buy their own PVC or at
least give the option of buying the screening only? Btw, a black screen
would be easier to see through. ~ jan


On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 10:41:04 -0400, John Bachman wrote:

Yikes! I seem to be in the pond screen business.

I searched around for a screen to put on my pond this fall but could
not find a suitable one. So I built one. Other people asked me to
make one for them so I did. I made design improvements as I went
along, making it easy to disassemble for storage, easy to clean, etc.

The next thing you know I am in business. The company I work for gave
me a corner of their www site to display the screen and even will
process the orders for me.

Take a look at my design at www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm
and see what you think. I would be interested in your comments.

John


See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

I think you could drop the price by having folks go buy their own PVC or at
least give the option of buying the screening only? Btw, a black screen
would be easier to see through. ~ jan


On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 10:41:04 -0400, John Bachman wrote:

Yikes! I seem to be in the pond screen business.

I searched around for a screen to put on my pond this fall but could
not find a suitable one. So I built one. Other people asked me to
make one for them so I did. I made design improvements as I went
along, making it easy to disassemble for storage, easy to clean, etc.

The next thing you know I am in business. The company I work for gave
me a corner of their www site to display the screen and even will
process the orders for me.

Take a look at my design at www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm
and see what you think. I would be interested in your comments.

John


See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 00:48:51 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

I think you could drop the price by having folks go buy their own PVC or at
least give the option of buying the screening only? Btw, a black screen
would be easier to see through. ~ jan

Interesting points. I have implemented several features that make it
easy to install and disassemble. For instance, most of the tees and
crosses are bored out in one direction so that they slide on the PVC
pipe, no hardware or cement required. Also, the mesh is attached to
the frame using some special Velcro devices that work very well.

I thought that most pond owners would not want to get into cutting and
boring PVC but I suppose there are some who would. I will think about
offering a do-it-yourself plan. I could supply the design details and
the mesh with the Velcro attached. Then the user can decide whether
to bore out the fittings or cut and screw/cement.

If there is enough volume I could offer white or black mesh choice.
Right now I have a big roll of white.

Thanks for your feedback.

John
See www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm to see what we are
talking about.



On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 10:41:04 -0400, John Bachman wrote:

Yikes! I seem to be in the pond screen business.

I searched around for a screen to put on my pond this fall but could
not find a suitable one. So I built one. Other people asked me to
make one for them so I did. I made design improvements as I went
along, making it easy to disassemble for storage, easy to clean, etc.

The next thing you know I am in business. The company I work for gave
me a corner of their www site to display the screen and even will
process the orders for me.

Take a look at my design at www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm
and see what you think. I would be interested in your comments.

John


See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 00:48:51 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

I think you could drop the price by having folks go buy their own PVC or at
least give the option of buying the screening only? Btw, a black screen
would be easier to see through. ~ jan



I took your advice and am now offering lower priced kits. The buyers
would get some of their own PVC materials. I supply the mesh net,
fittings and fasteners plus a build plan, of course.

The reasons a

Mesh net - I am buying rolls of 150 yards long by 12 feet wide. That
way, up to 10' wide frames have a single, solid piece - no joints and
no gaps. The only way to get this is direct from the factory.

Fittings (PVC angles, tees, etc) - some of these must be bored out and
drilled for easy disassembly and subsequent reassembly. I presume
that folks want to store it away when not in use, not just leave it
up. If you use PVC adhesive you are stuck with a bulky frame. Since
I am set up to do the boring and drilling, why not do that?

The fasteners are a special Velcro product that mounts nicely to the
mesh and then straps around the frame. This product (MVA #8 in Velcro
talk) is not available retail. So, I am buying from a Velcro
distributor. This is a real nice, clean fastening system.

Thanks for your input. Folks can buy the full system partially
assembled or a kit as described above. Cool.

John
See the pond leaf & debris screen at
www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm

John,

I think that's great! I am saving your website for future reference.
~ jan )

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 11:47:53 -0400, John Bachman wrote:

I took your advice and am now offering lower priced kits. The buyers
would get some of their own PVC materials. I supply the mesh net,
fittings and fasteners plus a build plan, of course.

The reasons a

Mesh net - I am buying rolls of 150 yards long by 12 feet wide. That
way, up to 10' wide frames have a single, solid piece - no joints and
no gaps. The only way to get this is direct from the factory.

Fittings (PVC angles, tees, etc) - some of these must be bored out and
drilled for easy disassembly and subsequent reassembly. I presume
that folks want to store it away when not in use, not just leave it
up. If you use PVC adhesive you are stuck with a bulky frame. Since
I am set up to do the boring and drilling, why not do that?

The fasteners are a special Velcro product that mounts nicely to the
mesh and then straps around the frame. This product (MVA #8 in Velcro
talk) is not available retail. So, I am buying from a Velcro
distributor. This is a real nice, clean fastening system.

Thanks for your input. Folks can buy the full system partially
assembled or a kit as described above. Cool.

John
See the pond leaf & debris screen at
www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm



See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

use shock cording on the PVC, the way they do with tent frames so it can be easily
folded up and put away in winter. Ingrid

John Bachman wrote:

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 00:48:51 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

I think you could drop the price by having folks go buy their own PVC or at
least give the option of buying the screening only? Btw, a black screen
would be easier to see through. ~ jan

Interesting points. I have implemented several features that make it
easy to install and disassemble. For instance, most of the tees and
crosses are bored out in one direction so that they slide on the PVC
pipe, no hardware or cement required. Also, the mesh is attached to
the frame using some special Velcro devices that work very well.

I thought that most pond owners would not want to get into cutting and
boring PVC but I suppose there are some who would. I will think about
offering a do-it-yourself plan. I could supply the design details and
the mesh with the Velcro attached. Then the user can decide whether
to bore out the fittings or cut and screw/cement.

If there is enough volume I could offer white or black mesh choice.
Right now I have a big roll of white.

Thanks for your feedback.

John
See www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm to see what we are
talking about.



On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 10:41:04 -0400, John Bachman wrote:

Yikes! I seem to be in the pond screen business.

I searched around for a screen to put on my pond this fall but could
not find a suitable one. So I built one. Other people asked me to
make one for them so I did. I made design improvements as I went
along, making it easy to disassemble for storage, easy to clean, etc.

The next thing you know I am in business. The company I work for gave
me a corner of their www site to display the screen and even will
process the orders for me.

Take a look at my design at www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm
and see what you think. I would be interested in your comments.

John


See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website



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On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 00:21:32 GMT, wrote:

use shock cording on the PVC, the way they do with tent frames so it can be easily
folded up and put away in winter. Ingrid


That may be a good idea for larger units. The design I have works
well up to 10 feet wide and is easily disassembled for storage (takes
about 5 minutes to do).

However, I am getting requests for larger units and am concerned that
the design will not hold together good enough for them. The shock
cording idea may be suitable for that - it will put the cross elements
into more compression thereby gaining strength.

I will investigate further.

Sheesh, I just wanted a screen for my pond and now I am engineering
like crazy. Oh well, there are worse things to be doing. For
instance, today I must go cut brush at my mother-in-law's house.

John

Go to www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm to see what we are
talking about. I clever leaf and debris screen for ponds.

snipped all the older stuff