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Julie Pascal 04-09-2003 06:12 PM

Turtle and fish question
 
I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask Will livestock
water tanks work for fish or turtles, or are the materials
they are made of potentially toxic? I would think that
that livestock water tanks would be made out of innert
material but I wouldn't want to assume that. I do know
that fish are far more sensitive than, say, a cow would
be.

Thanks much for any help.

--Julie



Bob Koerber 04-09-2003 07:02 PM

Turtle and fish question
 
Work out fine people use them for filters for large ponds and for small
ponds all the time.

Julie Pascal wrote:

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask Will livestock
water tanks work for fish or turtles, or are the materials
they are made of potentially toxic? I would think that
that livestock water tanks would be made out of innert
material but I wouldn't want to assume that. I do know
that fish are far more sensitive than, say, a cow would
be.

Thanks much for any help.

--Julie





K30a 04-09-2003 07:22 PM

Turtle and fish question
 

Live stock tanks would not work for a turtle as they need a safe place to bask
in the sun for hours a day.
We constructed an island in the middle of our pond for turtle basking, we also
had several sheltered places around the edge of the pond for them to get out
and bask. They were hidden enough that the two labradors never noticed them and
the turtles would continue basking every time a gallumping labrador went on by.

k30a
and the watergardening labradors
http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...dors/home.html

mad 04-09-2003 11:45 PM

Turtle and fish question
 
check out my stock tank pond. 300 gallons and going strong...
mad
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Whoso diggeth a pit shall fall therein... Prov 26:27

From: "Julie Pascal"
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com
Newsgroups: rec.ponds
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 11:47:19 -0500
Subject: Turtle and fish question

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask Will livestock
water tanks work for fish or turtles, or are the materials
they are made of potentially toxic? I would think that
that livestock water tanks would be made out of innert
material but I wouldn't want to assume that. I do know
that fish are far more sensitive than, say, a cow would
be.

Thanks much for any help.

--Julie





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Julie Pascal 05-09-2003 01:04 AM

Turtle and fish question
 
I'm trying to decide if I should release my little painted turtles back
where they were found (the idea was a summer educational experience
for the kids) or take them with us when we move. Because we'd
be going to a different part of the country I would want to be sure
that they couldn't get *out* and potentially make it into the wild
population, either for disease issues or because local subspecies
should probably not be crossed. I do understand they need the
basking and the sunshine which is why I'd rather have them outside
than under lights...even the expensive reptile kind of lights. I would
be sure they had a dry basking area.

Can they co-exist with fish?

--Julie

"K30a" wrote in message
...

Live stock tanks would not work for a turtle as they need a safe place to

bask
in the sun for hours a day.
We constructed an island in the middle of our pond for turtle basking, we

also
had several sheltered places around the edge of the pond for them to get

out
and bask. They were hidden enough that the two labradors never noticed

them and
the turtles would continue basking every time a gallumping labrador went

on by.

k30a
and the watergardening labradors
http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...dors/home.html




K30a 05-09-2003 01:32 AM

Turtle and fish question
 
Julie wrote Can they co-exist with fish?

Depends... ;-)

Younger turtles will eat fish.
Older turtles will eat more veggies than
fish.
Any turtle will eat anything dead, including fish.

A fish would probably be okay if it was not ill or injured. And if you feed a
good turtle food the turtle would not be looking to supplement his diet.

A hefty filter is needed to deal with turtle waste. It is amazing what a turtle
can put out!


k30a
and the watergardening labradors
http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...dors/home.html

Gail Futoran 05-09-2003 04:12 PM

Turtle and fish question
 
"mad" wrote in message
...
check out my stock tank pond. 300 gallons and going

strong...
mad
--
See my zone 8B pond:
http://community.webshots.com/album/14478479WdPMkPBPmt
http://community.webshots.com/album/40739268OAqLln
Rec.ponds FAQ:

http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
Whoso diggeth a pit shall fall therein... Prov 26:27


Darn it, I love what you've done with your stock tank! I
really have to ask rec.ponders to STOP POSTING NEAT PAGES
LIKE THIS! They give me evil ideas. :)

Gail



Gail Futoran 05-09-2003 04:12 PM

Turtle and fish question
 
"Julie Pascal" wrote in message
...
I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask Will

livestock
water tanks work for fish or turtles, or are the materials
they are made of potentially toxic? I would think that
that livestock water tanks would be made out of innert
material but I wouldn't want to assume that. I do know
that fish are far more sensitive than, say, a cow would
be.

Thanks much for any help.

--Julie


I don't have turtles, just fish (goldfish & minnows). I
started with a metal stock tank but even after several years
the water gets a film on it, and I read somewhere that's
from the tank itself. I dunno if it's true, but I switched
to poly stock tanks and they work great. I have one Toter
110 gallon tank and a Rubbermaid 150 gallon tank. I prefer
the Rubbermaid for its flat bottom. The Toter bottom is
ridged and it can be hard to balance plant pots & letter
crates (for fish security). A lot of people use stock tanks
as ponds.

Here's a nice site to visit, lots of good information:
http://userpages.umbc.edu/~rrhudy1/pond.htm

Gail



[email protected] 06-09-2003 12:02 AM

Turtle and fish question
 
In , on 09/05/03
at 12:24 AM, ESPMER (K30a) said:


Younger turtles will eat fish.
Older turtles will eat more veggies than
fish.
Any turtle will eat anything dead, including fish.


They'll also chase fish, but can't catch healthy ones. It's fun to watch
my turtle swim around in circles when in one of her fish chasing moods.


Alan

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mad 06-09-2003 03:30 AM

Turtle and fish question
 
BWAHAHAHAHHA! that's my job!

mad

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I give myself very good advice, but I very seldom follow it.
That explains the trouble that I'm always in...
Cinderella

From: "Gail Futoran"
Organization: AT&T Worldnet
Newsgroups: rec.ponds
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:10:53 GMT
Subject: Turtle and fish question

"mad" wrote in message
...
check out my stock tank pond. 300 gallons and going

strong...
mad
--
See my zone 8B pond:
http://community.webshots.com/album/14478479WdPMkPBPmt
http://community.webshots.com/album/40739268OAqLln
Rec.ponds FAQ:

http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
Whoso diggeth a pit shall fall therein... Prov 26:27


Darn it, I love what you've done with your stock tank! I
really have to ask rec.ponders to STOP POSTING NEAT PAGES
LIKE THIS! They give me evil ideas. :)

Gail





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Jerrispond 07-09-2003 12:25 AM

Turtle and fish question
 
They'll also chase fish, but can't catch healthy ones. It's fun to watch
my turtle swim around in circles when in one of her fish chasing moods.


what kind of turtles do you have...can anyone answer my questionsI posted?
Jerri

http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond

joe 07-09-2003 12:44 AM

Turtle and fish question
 
Jerri,

I did answer, but not under this subject line. It was under: Turtle
Question. Here it is again:

Joe

Jerrispond wrote:

I saw a wonderful female red eared slider at the petshop. The question
was....will they winter over in a zone 7 pond. the answer was ...I don't

know

I don't know the answer to that either. I believe they will hibernate in the
bottom if it doesn't freeze, but I'll try to find that our for sure.

, but it will run away the first day.....

I have heard from others that they may do so. Mine has stayed put for 8
months. Is the yard fenced?

They should be kept in an aquarium in the house.....

That is a lot of work. You have to do a large amount of water changes - they
poop large quantities.

I thought maybe a male would but not a
female...how about if I bought a pair?

Ours is a male and nearly killed the (much) smaller buddy we bought for him.
He is now alone and seems pretty pleased about it. If you get two, make sure
they are about the same size.

would they need supplamental food if
there is plenty of small fish and plants?

Yes, they need to be fed, but seem pretty happy with Koi pellets. There is
also turtle pellets which I seem to remember as having less protein. I have
come to the conclusion that the only fish a RES will catch is one that is
already dead. I have a couple of Oscars in my pond for mosquito fish
control. They stay put right in front of him at feeding time and he just
stares helplessly. Maybe mine is just a wimp.

How would they do with koi....

Fine

thought they might eat those pesky minnows.

Couldn't catch one on his best day.

Oh I also have a huge channel
cat in there. the turtles shell was about as big as my hand when I open it
as wide as it will go. with my luck it will only eat the baby koi and not
the minnows....thats ok about the koi I had a bumper crop this year Darn....I
really wanted one or two of those turtles...but not if they run away Jerri


Yeah, the run away part is a biggie. As I said, ours seems to stay put, but
I wouldn't want to be the one to guarantee that. On the other hand, he is
very interesting, and with enough contact with you, pretty tame.


Joe



Jerrispond wrote:

what kind of turtles do you have...can anyone answer my questionsI posted?
Jerri




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[email protected] 07-09-2003 10:33 PM

Turtle and fish question
 
In , on 09/06/03
at 11:17 PM, (Jerrispond) said:

They'll also chase fish, but can't catch healthy ones. It's fun to watch
my turtle swim around in circles when in one of her fish chasing moods.


what kind of turtles do you have...can anyone answer my questionsI
posted? Jerri


Mine is an eastern painted turtle from a turtle rescue group.


Alan

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