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Nicholas Walker 11-09-2003 11:22 AM

Clay pond help please
 
I've recently scooped out an old silted up pond in my garden which filled up
and overflowed every winter but dried out in the summer. It's a fairly
large triangle of about 20 yards each side. It takes four days to fill with
a hose and then two days to drain. The clay base (of unknown thickness)
seems watertight, but I reckon it's leeching out where the clay meets the
topsoil sides.

What are my options? It's a bit big for a liner but I understand that the
clay could be extended up the sides. What is the technique for doing this?
How thick does the layer of clay need to be? How do I test that the clay to
be used is up to the job?

Many thanks in anticipation




moose 11-09-2003 03:02 PM

Clay pond help please
 

"Nicholas Walker" wrote in message
...
I've recently scooped out an old silted up pond in my garden which filled

up
and overflowed every winter but dried out in the summer. It's a fairly
large triangle of about 20 yards each side. It takes four days to fill

with
a hose and then two days to drain. The clay base (of unknown thickness)
seems watertight, but I reckon it's leeching out where the clay meets the
topsoil sides.

What are my options? It's a bit big for a liner but I understand that the
clay could be extended up the sides. What is the technique for doing

this?
How thick does the layer of clay need to be? How do I test that the clay

to
be used is up to the job?

Many thanks in anticipation


Don't go there, believe me, It will do your head in, however thick the clay,
as the wind and sun evaporate the surface water, the clay will dry out,
contract,and send cracks down the banking.
I landed up bringing the bull dozer in, plenty of hardcore and then laced
with heavy chicken wire, followed by concrete, not cheap! but I have never
bothered since, It's called piece of mind.



Sam Hopkins 11-09-2003 03:42 PM

Clay pond help please
 
If the pond is completely draining there's a hole at the bottom or the water
is making it through the clay. Does the clay go up the sides or is it only
on the bottom?


"Nicholas Walker" wrote in message
...
I've recently scooped out an old silted up pond in my garden which filled

up
and overflowed every winter but dried out in the summer. It's a fairly
large triangle of about 20 yards each side. It takes four days to fill

with
a hose and then two days to drain. The clay base (of unknown thickness)
seems watertight, but I reckon it's leeching out where the clay meets the
topsoil sides.

What are my options? It's a bit big for a liner but I understand that the
clay could be extended up the sides. What is the technique for doing

this?
How thick does the layer of clay need to be? How do I test that the clay

to
be used is up to the job?

Many thanks in anticipation






Paul in Redland 11-09-2003 05:32 PM

Clay pond help please
 
It's not too big for a liner, see:

www.bendtarp.com

Paul

"Nicholas Walker" wrote in message
...
I've recently scooped out an old silted up pond in my garden which filled

up
and overflowed every winter but dried out in the summer. It's a fairly
large triangle of about 20 yards each side. It takes four days to fill

with
a hose and then two days to drain. The clay base (of unknown thickness)
seems watertight, but I reckon it's leeching out where the clay meets the
topsoil sides.

What are my options? It's a bit big for a liner but I understand that the
clay could be extended up the sides. What is the technique for doing

this?
How thick does the layer of clay need to be? How do I test that the clay

to
be used is up to the job?

Many thanks in anticipation






Mickey 11-09-2003 11:48 PM

Clay pond help please
 
Do some internet searching for something to put in the pond to slow the
leaks down. Maybe there is a clay or something that will suspend itself in
the water and clog the cracks up as it runs out the hole,
"Nicholas Walker" wrote in message
...
I've recently scooped out an old silted up pond in my garden which filled

up
and overflowed every winter but dried out in the summer. It's a fairly
large triangle of about 20 yards each side. It takes four days to fill

with
a hose and then two days to drain. The clay base (of unknown thickness)
seems watertight, but I reckon it's leeching out where the clay meets the
topsoil sides.

What are my options? It's a bit big for a liner but I understand that the
clay could be extended up the sides. What is the technique for doing

this?
How thick does the layer of clay need to be? How do I test that the clay

to
be used is up to the job?

Many thanks in anticipation






RichToyBox 12-09-2003 01:51 AM

Clay pond help please
 
The clay that is used is called bentonite or montmorillonite. It can be
dumped into the water to make a muddy mess, and some will settle out to the
bottom, but if there are any leaks, the leaking water will carry the clay to
the leak and plug it. Our Botanical gardens used it on a pond that they put
in and I think it took about 2 years for the water to clear, and then if you
have koi, they will root around in the clay and it will never clear.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Mickey" wrote in message
...
Do some internet searching for something to put in the pond to slow the
leaks down. Maybe there is a clay or something that will suspend itself in
the water and clog the cracks up as it runs out the hole,
"Nicholas Walker" wrote in message
...
I've recently scooped out an old silted up pond in my garden which

filled
up
and overflowed every winter but dried out in the summer. It's a fairly
large triangle of about 20 yards each side. It takes four days to fill

with
a hose and then two days to drain. The clay base (of unknown thickness)
seems watertight, but I reckon it's leeching out where the clay meets

the
topsoil sides.

What are my options? It's a bit big for a liner but I understand that

the
clay could be extended up the sides. What is the technique for doing

this?
How thick does the layer of clay need to be? How do I test that the

clay
to
be used is up to the job?

Many thanks in anticipation








moose 12-09-2003 07:49 AM

Clay pond help please
 

"Mickey" wrote in message
...
Do some internet searching for something to put in the pond to slow the
leaks down. Maybe there is a clay or something that will suspend itself in
the water and clog the cracks up as it runs out the hole,


Water will always react with clay as any sculptor will verify, all clay
ponds, (referred to as bogs in our village) dry out in the summer.
What some people think are clay ponds, are actually gravel pits,as in most
quarries.



Tumbleweed 12-09-2003 09:20 AM

Clay pond help please
 
"Nicholas Walker" wrote in message
...
I've recently scooped out an old silted up pond in my garden which filled

up
and overflowed every winter but dried out in the summer. It's a fairly
large triangle of about 20 yards each side. It takes four days to fill

with
a hose and then two days to drain. The clay base (of unknown thickness)
seems watertight, but I reckon it's leeching out where the clay meets the
topsoil sides.

What are my options? It's a bit big for a liner snip


It isnt too big for a liner, just expensive :-)

--
Tumbleweed

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Tumbleweed 12-09-2003 09:24 AM

Clay pond help please
 
"Nicholas Walker" wrote in message
...
I've recently scooped out an old silted up pond in my garden which filled

up
and overflowed every winter but dried out in the summer. It's a fairly
large triangle of about 20 yards each side. It takes four days to fill

with
a hose and then two days to drain. The clay base (of unknown thickness)
seems watertight, but I reckon it's leeching out where the clay meets the
topsoil sides.

What are my options? It's a bit big for a liner snip


It isnt too big for a liner, just expensive :-)

--
Tumbleweed

Remove theobvious before replying (but no email reply necessary to
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Miss pent 15-09-2003 04:42 PM

Clay pond help please
 
You should have watched Gardeners World BBC2 on Friday. they constructed
huge clay pond the salient fact being that the clay must be at least 18
inches thick and must be tamped down preferably by machine and once filled
will need to be topped up two days later as the clay will absorb the water
necessary to make it watertight.
I am only passing on what I have heard.

--
Miss Pent
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"Tumbleweed" wrote in message
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| "Nicholas Walker" wrote in message
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| I've recently scooped out an old silted up pond in my garden which
filled
| up
| and overflowed every winter but dried out in the summer. It's a fairly
| large triangle of about 20 yards each side. It takes four days to fill
| with
| a hose and then two days to drain. The clay base (of unknown thickness)
| seems watertight, but I reckon it's leeching out where the clay meets
the
| topsoil sides.
|
| What are my options? It's a bit big for a liner snip
|
| It isnt too big for a liner, just expensive :-)
|
| --
| Tumbleweed
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| Remove theobvious before replying (but no email reply necessary to
| newsgroups)
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