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Aquarium heater in pond
I have read of people's varying experience with putting a submersible aquarium
heater in an outdoor pond over the winter. I think Ingrid did it succesfully. Can anyone provide personal experiences, what to do and not to do? I am trying to keep a lotus alive in an above-ground stock tank in Chicago that is too heavy (read I am too lazy) to move and store, and want to put in a heater and coer the whole thing with white foam insulation board. I'm not worried about the rosy reds and feeder goldfish that were in there to eat mosquitoes, but want to prevent solid freezing. Thanks! |
Aquarium heater in pond
EliezerE wrote:
I have read of people's varying experience with putting a submersible aquarium heater in an outdoor pond over the winter. I think Ingrid did it succesfully. Can anyone provide personal experiences, what to do and not to do? I am trying to keep a lotus alive in an above-ground stock tank in Chicago that is too heavy (read I am too lazy) to move and store, and want to put in a heater and coer the whole thing with white foam insulation board. I'm not worried about the rosy reds and feeder goldfish that were in there to eat mosquitoes, but want to prevent solid freezing. Thanks! Ive used 250+ watt sub. heaters in outside stock tanks but it just barely worked even w/ 4" insulation around the tanks. a 500 or 1000 watt "fireplug" may work but it needs a sm. pump -- http://www.kencofish.com Ken Arnold, 401-781-9642 cell 401-225-0556 Importer/Exporter of Goldfish,Koi,rare Predators Shipping to legal states/countries only! Permalon liners, Oase & Supreme Pondmaster pumps Linux (SuSE 8.2) user #329121 Please Note: No trees or animals were harmed in the sending of this contaminant free message We do concede that a signicant number of electrons may have been inconvenienced ;) |
Aquarium heater in pond
I used to use the type of heater that you put in a dogs outdoor watering
bowl bucket for a few years (BIG water bucket - people who had Piranees left them at our house) and it worked fine but after they died (the heaters) I didn't replace them because I decide that if I wanted the fish to go without food that I should probably let them have cold temperatures.... DK "KenCo" wrote in message ... EliezerE wrote: I have read of people's varying experience with putting a submersible aquarium heater in an outdoor pond over the winter. I think Ingrid did it succesfully. Can anyone provide personal experiences, what to do and not to do? I am trying to keep a lotus alive in an above-ground stock tank in Chicago that is too heavy (read I am too lazy) to move and store, and want to put in a heater and coer the whole thing with white foam insulation board. I'm not worried about the rosy reds and feeder goldfish that were in there to eat mosquitoes, but want to prevent solid freezing. Thanks! Ive used 250+ watt sub. heaters in outside stock tanks but it just barely worked even w/ 4" insulation around the tanks. a 500 or 1000 watt "fireplug" may work but it needs a sm. pump -- http://www.kencofish.com Ken Arnold, 401-781-9642 cell 401-225-0556 Importer/Exporter of Goldfish,Koi,rare Predators Shipping to legal states/countries only! Permalon liners, Oase & Supreme Pondmaster pumps Linux (SuSE 8.2) user #329121 Please Note: No trees or animals were harmed in the sending of this contaminant free message We do concede that a signicant number of electrons may have been inconvenienced ;) |
Aquarium heater in pond
Thank you all-- though once again I have the whole range from ice cubes to
jacuzzi. Knowing that some have done it succesfully is encouraging. I'll try the foam board and plastic. Here's looking forward to spring's first lotus leaf. Eliezer |
Aquarium heater in pond
"EliezerE" wrote in message
... Thank you all-- though once again I have the whole range from ice cubes to jacuzzi. Knowing that some have done it succesfully is encouraging. I'll try the foam board and plastic. Here's looking forward to spring's first lotus leaf. Eliezer The other part of the equation that wasn't discussed, was cost. If my math is correct, it will cost about $20 per month to run a 500 watt heater, assuming about 6cents per KWhr and 30 days per month. (500/1000*24*0.06*30 = 21.6). I realize that it might be difficult to move it indoors, but if it must stay outside, then that is going to be one very valuable Lotus plant. Jerry |
Aquarium heater in pond
Ideally one only plugs in the heater when the conditions warrant it.
Therein keeping the costs down :o) ~ jan The other part of the equation that wasn't discussed, was cost. If my math is correct, it will cost about $20 per month to run a 500 watt heater, assuming about 6cents per KWhr and 30 days per month. (500/1000*24*0.06*30 = 21.6). I realize that it might be difficult to move it indoors, but if it must stay outside, then that is going to be one very valuable Lotus plant. Jerry See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design: http://users.owt.com/jjspond/ ~Keep 'em Defrosted~ Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a To e-mail see website |
Aquarium heater in pond
I would add insulation to the outside of the container. The lotus roots
tend to go in a circle around the perimeter of the pot. The water may stay liquid, but the soil near the pot sides may freeze. Good luck. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "EliezerE" wrote in message ... Thank you all-- though once again I have the whole range from ice cubes to jacuzzi. Knowing that some have done it succesfully is encouraging. I'll try the foam board and plastic. Here's looking forward to spring's first lotus leaf. Eliezer |
Aquarium heater in pond
uh... I guess I dont understand about freezing and lotus then cause they grow in zone
4, in shallow lakes that gotta freeze all the way down. maybe they dont like freeze/thaw/freeze/thaw cycles like lots of other potted plants? Ingrid "RichToyBox" wrote: I would add insulation to the outside of the container. The lotus roots tend to go in a circle around the perimeter of the pot. The water may stay liquid, but the soil near the pot sides may freeze. Good luck. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
Aquarium heater in pond
Not all lotus are hardy. I don't believe my 'Baby Doll' is reliably hardy farther north
than my zone 8b. v On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:07:01 GMT, opined: uh... I guess I dont understand about freezing and lotus then cause they grow in zone 4, in shallow lakes that gotta freeze all the way down. maybe they dont like freeze/thaw/freeze/thaw cycles like lots of other potted plants? Ingrid "RichToyBox" wrote: I would add insulation to the outside of the container. The lotus roots tend to go in a circle around the perimeter of the pot. The water may stay liquid, but the soil near the pot sides may freeze. Good luck. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
Aquarium heater in pond
Not all lotus are hardy. I don't believe my 'Baby Doll' is reliably hardy farther north
than my zone 8b. v On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:07:01 GMT, opined: uh... I guess I dont understand about freezing and lotus then cause they grow in zone 4, in shallow lakes that gotta freeze all the way down. maybe they dont like freeze/thaw/freeze/thaw cycles like lots of other potted plants? Ingrid "RichToyBox" wrote: I would add insulation to the outside of the container. The lotus roots tend to go in a circle around the perimeter of the pot. The water may stay liquid, but the soil near the pot sides may freeze. Good luck. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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