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I have an outdoor pond - concrete and masonry - - perhaps 4 ft x 10 feet by
a couple of feet deep. It has an effective filtration and circulation system. Until last year, my critters lived in it in peace and harmony. Then: It began to lose water fairly rapidly through a large crack that had developed in the bottom. I drained the pond and called in my favorite neighborhood handyman who cured the problem by cleaning out the crack and filling it with an epoxy compound. The pond no longer loses water - - now it kills fish. Everything I introduce to the pond DIES. After many months (and many sacrificial fish) I declare myself thoroughly STUMPED. Any ideas? I innately suspect that the epoxy has something to do with it, but the water has been changed and filtered so long that it doesn't seem plausible. Any or all suggestions, ideas, hints, cures, curses, spells or incantations will be cheerfully appreciated. |
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Any ideas? I innately suspect that the epoxy has something to do with it, but the water has been changed and filtered so long that it doesn't seem plausible. It is still possible. Any or all suggestions, ideas, hints, cures, curses, spells or incantations will be cheerfully appreciated. http://www.sanitred.com/WaterFountain.htm |
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Have you done the usual water tests on it? Find out what kind of epoxy,
maybe someone here will know more about it, my understanding was once dry it was okay. Maybe there are different kinds? How quickly do the fish die and what are their symptoms? ~ jan On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:31:09 GMT, "Bubba" wrote: I have an outdoor pond - concrete and masonry - - perhaps 4 ft x 10 feet by a couple of feet deep. It has an effective filtration and circulation system. Until last year, my critters lived in it in peace and harmony. Then: It began to lose water fairly rapidly through a large crack that had developed in the bottom. I drained the pond and called in my favorite neighborhood handyman who cured the problem by cleaning out the crack and filling it with an epoxy compound. The pond no longer loses water - - now it kills fish. Everything I introduce to the pond DIES. After many months (and many sacrificial fish) I declare myself thoroughly STUMPED. Any ideas? I innately suspect that the epoxy has something to do with it, but the water has been changed and filtered so long that it doesn't seem plausible. Any or all suggestions, ideas, hints, cures, curses, spells or incantations will be cheerfully appreciated. |
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If it was a 2-part epoxy cured with a polyamide, there lies your problem.
The polyamide will continue to leach into the water and of course, it is toxic to fish. By the way, two part epoxies are not particularly resistant to water so, it's gonna leak again sooner or later. You should have used hydraulic cement. Dean "Bubba" wrote in message ... I have an outdoor pond - concrete and masonry - - perhaps 4 ft x 10 feet by a couple of feet deep. It has an effective filtration and circulation system. Until last year, my critters lived in it in peace and harmony. Then: It began to lose water fairly rapidly through a large crack that had developed in the bottom. I drained the pond and called in my favorite neighborhood handyman who cured the problem by cleaning out the crack and filling it with an epoxy compound. The pond no longer loses water - - now it kills fish. Everything I introduce to the pond DIES. After many months (and many sacrificial fish) I declare myself thoroughly STUMPED. Any ideas? I innately suspect that the epoxy has something to do with it, but the water has been changed and filtered so long that it doesn't seem plausible. Any or all suggestions, ideas, hints, cures, curses, spells or incantations will be cheerfully appreciated. |
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Hi Dean,
Can he cover the epoxy with something, or does it need to be removed totally? ~ jan On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 13:27:12 GMT, wrote: If it was a 2-part epoxy cured with a polyamide, there lies your problem. The polyamide will continue to leach into the water and of course, it is toxic to fish. By the way, two part epoxies are not particularly resistant to water so, it's gonna leak again sooner or later. You should have used hydraulic cement. Dean "Bubba" wrote in message ... I have an outdoor pond - concrete and masonry - - perhaps 4 ft x 10 feet by a couple of feet deep. It has an effective filtration and circulation system. Until last year, my critters lived in it in peace and harmony. Then: It began to lose water fairly rapidly through a large crack that had developed in the bottom. I drained the pond and called in my favorite neighborhood handyman who cured the problem by cleaning out the crack and filling it with an epoxy compound. The pond no longer loses water - - now it kills fish. Everything I introduce to the pond DIES. After many months (and many sacrificial fish) I declare myself thoroughly STUMPED. Any ideas? I innately suspect that the epoxy has something to do with it, but the water has been changed and filtered so long that it doesn't seem plausible. Any or all suggestions, ideas, hints, cures, curses, spells or incantations will be cheerfully appreciated. |
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I don't know if this would work or not, but there's always the rubberized
paint that could cover the whole thing. And the positive cure-all would be to install the 45-mil pond liner material. Both should solve the leak problem and (probably) the leaching problem. Lee "~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message ... Hi Dean, Can he cover the epoxy with something, or does it need to be removed totally? ~ jan On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 13:27:12 GMT, wrote: If it was a 2-part epoxy cured with a polyamide, there lies your problem. The polyamide will continue to leach into the water and of course, it is toxic to fish. By the way, two part epoxies are not particularly resistant to water so, it's gonna leak again sooner or later. You should have used hydraulic cement. Dean "Bubba" wrote in message ... I have an outdoor pond - concrete and masonry - - perhaps 4 ft x 10 feet by a couple of feet deep. It has an effective filtration and circulation system. Until last year, my critters lived in it in peace and harmony. Then: It began to lose water fairly rapidly through a large crack that had developed in the bottom. I drained the pond and called in my favorite neighborhood handyman who cured the problem by cleaning out the crack and filling it with an epoxy compound. The pond no longer loses water - - now it kills fish. Everything I introduce to the pond DIES. After many months (and many sacrificial fish) I declare myself thoroughly STUMPED. Any ideas? I innately suspect that the epoxy has something to do with it, but the water has been changed and filtered so long that it doesn't seem plausible. Any or all suggestions, ideas, hints, cures, curses, spells or incantations will be cheerfully appreciated. |
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I don't know if this would work or not, but there's always the rubberized
paint that could cover the whole thing. And the positive cure-all would be to install the 45-mil pond liner material. Both should solve the leak problem and (probably) the leaching problem. Lee "~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message ... Hi Dean, Can he cover the epoxy with something, or does it need to be removed totally? ~ jan On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 13:27:12 GMT, wrote: If it was a 2-part epoxy cured with a polyamide, there lies your problem. The polyamide will continue to leach into the water and of course, it is toxic to fish. By the way, two part epoxies are not particularly resistant to water so, it's gonna leak again sooner or later. You should have used hydraulic cement. Dean "Bubba" wrote in message ... I have an outdoor pond - concrete and masonry - - perhaps 4 ft x 10 feet by a couple of feet deep. It has an effective filtration and circulation system. Until last year, my critters lived in it in peace and harmony. Then: It began to lose water fairly rapidly through a large crack that had developed in the bottom. I drained the pond and called in my favorite neighborhood handyman who cured the problem by cleaning out the crack and filling it with an epoxy compound. The pond no longer loses water - - now it kills fish. Everything I introduce to the pond DIES. After many months (and many sacrificial fish) I declare myself thoroughly STUMPED. Any ideas? I innately suspect that the epoxy has something to do with it, but the water has been changed and filtered so long that it doesn't seem plausible. Any or all suggestions, ideas, hints, cures, curses, spells or incantations will be cheerfully appreciated. |
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I don't know if this would work or not, but there's always the rubberized
paint that could cover the whole thing. And the positive cure-all would be to install the 45-mil pond liner material. Both should solve the leak problem and (probably) the leaching problem. Lee "~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message ... Hi Dean, Can he cover the epoxy with something, or does it need to be removed totally? ~ jan On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 13:27:12 GMT, wrote: If it was a 2-part epoxy cured with a polyamide, there lies your problem. The polyamide will continue to leach into the water and of course, it is toxic to fish. By the way, two part epoxies are not particularly resistant to water so, it's gonna leak again sooner or later. You should have used hydraulic cement. Dean "Bubba" wrote in message ... I have an outdoor pond - concrete and masonry - - perhaps 4 ft x 10 feet by a couple of feet deep. It has an effective filtration and circulation system. Until last year, my critters lived in it in peace and harmony. Then: It began to lose water fairly rapidly through a large crack that had developed in the bottom. I drained the pond and called in my favorite neighborhood handyman who cured the problem by cleaning out the crack and filling it with an epoxy compound. The pond no longer loses water - - now it kills fish. Everything I introduce to the pond DIES. After many months (and many sacrificial fish) I declare myself thoroughly STUMPED. Any ideas? I innately suspect that the epoxy has something to do with it, but the water has been changed and filtered so long that it doesn't seem plausible. Any or all suggestions, ideas, hints, cures, curses, spells or incantations will be cheerfully appreciated. |
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I don't know if this would work or not, but there's always the rubberized
paint that could cover the whole thing. And the positive cure-all would be to install the 45-mil pond liner material. Both should solve the leak problem and (probably) the leaching problem. Lee "~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message ... Hi Dean, Can he cover the epoxy with something, or does it need to be removed totally? ~ jan On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 13:27:12 GMT, wrote: If it was a 2-part epoxy cured with a polyamide, there lies your problem. The polyamide will continue to leach into the water and of course, it is toxic to fish. By the way, two part epoxies are not particularly resistant to water so, it's gonna leak again sooner or later. You should have used hydraulic cement. Dean "Bubba" wrote in message ... I have an outdoor pond - concrete and masonry - - perhaps 4 ft x 10 feet by a couple of feet deep. It has an effective filtration and circulation system. Until last year, my critters lived in it in peace and harmony. Then: It began to lose water fairly rapidly through a large crack that had developed in the bottom. I drained the pond and called in my favorite neighborhood handyman who cured the problem by cleaning out the crack and filling it with an epoxy compound. The pond no longer loses water - - now it kills fish. Everything I introduce to the pond DIES. After many months (and many sacrificial fish) I declare myself thoroughly STUMPED. Any ideas? I innately suspect that the epoxy has something to do with it, but the water has been changed and filtered so long that it doesn't seem plausible. Any or all suggestions, ideas, hints, cures, curses, spells or incantations will be cheerfully appreciated. |
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I don't know if this would work or not, but there's always the rubberized
paint that could cover the whole thing. And the positive cure-all would be to install the 45-mil pond liner material. Both should solve the leak problem and (probably) the leaching problem. Lee "~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message ... Hi Dean, Can he cover the epoxy with something, or does it need to be removed totally? ~ jan On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 13:27:12 GMT, wrote: If it was a 2-part epoxy cured with a polyamide, there lies your problem. The polyamide will continue to leach into the water and of course, it is toxic to fish. By the way, two part epoxies are not particularly resistant to water so, it's gonna leak again sooner or later. You should have used hydraulic cement. Dean "Bubba" wrote in message ... I have an outdoor pond - concrete and masonry - - perhaps 4 ft x 10 feet by a couple of feet deep. It has an effective filtration and circulation system. Until last year, my critters lived in it in peace and harmony. Then: It began to lose water fairly rapidly through a large crack that had developed in the bottom. I drained the pond and called in my favorite neighborhood handyman who cured the problem by cleaning out the crack and filling it with an epoxy compound. The pond no longer loses water - - now it kills fish. Everything I introduce to the pond DIES. After many months (and many sacrificial fish) I declare myself thoroughly STUMPED. Any ideas? I innately suspect that the epoxy has something to do with it, but the water has been changed and filtered so long that it doesn't seem plausible. Any or all suggestions, ideas, hints, cures, curses, spells or incantations will be cheerfully appreciated. |
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I hate to see you go without any answers to your post, so I will add
my two cents even though I really don't have an answer. 1. Have you tested your water with one of those home pond test kits to see if there is something that might be killing the fish? If you have and it is OK, you might want to take a sample of your water to one of those places that tests drinking water and see what kind of results you get. 2. Have you introduced any new plants? Are any of them toxic to fish? 3. If it is not your water and not your plants, then it almost seems it must be the epoxy eventhough I find that hard to believe. You could cover up the problem and any future leaks by installing a rubber pond liner. I hope something I have mentioned helps. Glenn Lynn On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:31:09 GMT, "Bubba" wrote: I have an outdoor pond - concrete and masonry - - perhaps 4 ft x 10 feet by a couple of feet deep. It has an effective filtration and circulation system. Until last year, my critters lived in it in peace and harmony. Then: It began to lose water fairly rapidly through a large crack that had developed in the bottom. I drained the pond and called in my favorite neighborhood handyman who cured the problem by cleaning out the crack and filling it with an epoxy compound. The pond no longer loses water - - now it kills fish. Everything I introduce to the pond DIES. After many months (and many sacrificial fish) I declare myself thoroughly STUMPED. Any ideas? I innately suspect that the epoxy has something to do with it, but the water has been changed and filtered so long that it doesn't seem plausible. Any or all suggestions, ideas, hints, cures, curses, spells or incantations will be cheerfully appreciated. |
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