Bog Garden: Episode II
I saw Richard's post on the bog garden, and so am now inspired. Oh great,
thanks Richard...My kitchen is 3/4 done, my master bath is gutted, the playroom is framed by not wired or sheetrocked, and my stream is leaking water. So what am I going to do? Start another damn pond project. OK, so my question is...I currently have a pond with a bottom drain that feeds a VF. I'd like to build a bog garden for the fun and the look, but would also like it to have a purpose, and do some filtration. I have no idea how to plumb it? How do I get pond water to it, and then back to the pond on a slow cycle? -- BV. www.iheartmypond.com |
Bog Garden: Episode II
BV, With bog number one I ran a long, flexible black tube along the back of it. The tube was drilled with holes every couple of inches. The bog was full of large rocks and it sits at the edge of the pond. It worked great for a while, then the plants went crazy and filled it in and they would not come out! So the thing backed up and started leaking over the edge. I disconnected the hose. The thing is completely filled in with this wonderful edgewater grass I brought back as seeds from a pond in Idaho. Six feet tall. Now the stuff is spreading out over the pond and sending shoots up from the surface. It will be a battle this spring but we are going to try and get it under control. kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
Bog Garden: Episode II
BV, With bog number one I ran a long, flexible black tube along the back of it. The tube was drilled with holes every couple of inches. The bog was full of large rocks and it sits at the edge of the pond. It worked great for a while, then the plants went crazy and filled it in and they would not come out! So the thing backed up and started leaking over the edge. I disconnected the hose. The thing is completely filled in with this wonderful edgewater grass I brought back as seeds from a pond in Idaho. Six feet tall. Now the stuff is spreading out over the pond and sending shoots up from the surface. It will be a battle this spring but we are going to try and get it under control. kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
Bog Garden: Episode II
"Ka30P" wrote in message ... BV, With bog number one I ran a long, flexible black tube along the back of it. The tube was drilled with holes every couple of inches. The bog was full of large rocks and it sits at the edge of the pond. It worked great for a while, then the plants went crazy and filled it in and they would not come out! So the thing backed up and started leaking over the edge. I disconnected the hose. The thing is completely filled in with this wonderful edgewater grass I brought back as seeds from a pond in Idaho. Six feet tall. Now the stuff is spreading out over the pond and sending shoots up from the surface. It will be a battle this spring but we are going to try and get it under control. So do you circulate pond water into it? How much? How fast? Is the bog above the pond and does it drain back via gravity? BV. |
Bog Garden: Episode II
"Ka30P" wrote in message ... BV, With bog number one I ran a long, flexible black tube along the back of it. The tube was drilled with holes every couple of inches. The bog was full of large rocks and it sits at the edge of the pond. It worked great for a while, then the plants went crazy and filled it in and they would not come out! So the thing backed up and started leaking over the edge. I disconnected the hose. The thing is completely filled in with this wonderful edgewater grass I brought back as seeds from a pond in Idaho. Six feet tall. Now the stuff is spreading out over the pond and sending shoots up from the surface. It will be a battle this spring but we are going to try and get it under control. So do you circulate pond water into it? How much? How fast? Is the bog above the pond and does it drain back via gravity? BV. |
Bog Garden: Episode II
BV, With bog number one I ran a long, flexible black tube along the back of it. The tube was drilled with holes every couple of inches. The bog was full of large rocks and it sits at the edge of the pond. It worked great for a while, then the plants went crazy and filled it in and they would not come out! So the thing backed up and started leaking over the edge. I disconnected the hose. The thing is completely filled in with this wonderful edgewater grass I brought back as seeds from a pond in Idaho. Six feet tall. Now the stuff is spreading out over the pond and sending shoots up from the surface. It will be a battle this spring but we are going to try and get it under control. kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
Bog Garden: Episode II
BV, With bog number one I ran a long, flexible black tube along the back of it. The tube was drilled with holes every couple of inches. The bog was full of large rocks and it sits at the edge of the pond. It worked great for a while, then the plants went crazy and filled it in and they would not come out! So the thing backed up and started leaking over the edge. I disconnected the hose. The thing is completely filled in with this wonderful edgewater grass I brought back as seeds from a pond in Idaho. Six feet tall. Now the stuff is spreading out over the pond and sending shoots up from the surface. It will be a battle this spring but we are going to try and get it under control. kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
Bog Garden: Episode II
"Ka30P" wrote in message ... BV, With bog number one I ran a long, flexible black tube along the back of it. The tube was drilled with holes every couple of inches. The bog was full of large rocks and it sits at the edge of the pond. It worked great for a while, then the plants went crazy and filled it in and they would not come out! So the thing backed up and started leaking over the edge. I disconnected the hose. The thing is completely filled in with this wonderful edgewater grass I brought back as seeds from a pond in Idaho. Six feet tall. Now the stuff is spreading out over the pond and sending shoots up from the surface. It will be a battle this spring but we are going to try and get it under control. So do you circulate pond water into it? How much? How fast? Is the bog above the pond and does it drain back via gravity? BV. |
Bog Garden: Episode II
"Ka30P" wrote in message ... BV, With bog number one I ran a long, flexible black tube along the back of it. The tube was drilled with holes every couple of inches. The bog was full of large rocks and it sits at the edge of the pond. It worked great for a while, then the plants went crazy and filled it in and they would not come out! So the thing backed up and started leaking over the edge. I disconnected the hose. The thing is completely filled in with this wonderful edgewater grass I brought back as seeds from a pond in Idaho. Six feet tall. Now the stuff is spreading out over the pond and sending shoots up from the surface. It will be a battle this spring but we are going to try and get it under control. So do you circulate pond water into it? How much? How fast? Is the bog above the pond and does it drain back via gravity? BV. |
Bog Garden: Episode II
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:18:28 -0500, "BenignVanilla"
wrote: I have no idea how to plumb it? How do I get pond water to it, and then back to the pond on a slow cycle? Use two different water levels and pump from the lower to the higher water level and make a spillway or overflow pipe for water to gravity flow back to the lower water level. You can determine the amount of water movement by the pump size. Actually that will work with one water level if the two ponds are connected by a return pipe that stays full of water. Regards, Hal |
Bog Garden: Episode II
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:18:28 -0500, "BenignVanilla"
wrote: I have no idea how to plumb it? How do I get pond water to it, and then back to the pond on a slow cycle? Use two different water levels and pump from the lower to the higher water level and make a spillway or overflow pipe for water to gravity flow back to the lower water level. You can determine the amount of water movement by the pump size. Actually that will work with one water level if the two ponds are connected by a return pipe that stays full of water. Regards, Hal |
Bog Garden: Episode II
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:18:28 -0500, "BenignVanilla"
wrote: I have no idea how to plumb it? How do I get pond water to it, and then back to the pond on a slow cycle? Use two different water levels and pump from the lower to the higher water level and make a spillway or overflow pipe for water to gravity flow back to the lower water level. You can determine the amount of water movement by the pump size. Actually that will work with one water level if the two ponds are connected by a return pipe that stays full of water. Regards, Hal |
Bog Garden: Episode II
Someone talk to us about mosquitos and bogs.
Jim -- ______________________________________________ See our pond at: home.bellsouth.net\p\pwp-jameshurley Check out Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $140+ per child) at: jogathon.net ______________________________________________ "BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... I saw Richard's post on the bog garden, and so am now inspired. Oh great, thanks Richard...My kitchen is 3/4 done, my master bath is gutted, the playroom is framed by not wired or sheetrocked, and my stream is leaking water. So what am I going to do? Start another damn pond project. OK, so my question is...I currently have a pond with a bottom drain that feeds a VF. I'd like to build a bog garden for the fun and the look, but would also like it to have a purpose, and do some filtration. I have no idea how to plumb it? How do I get pond water to it, and then back to the pond on a slow cycle? -- BV. www.iheartmypond.com |
Bog Garden: Episode II
Jim wrote Someone talk to us about mosquitos and bogs.
And cabbages and kings... ;-) If a bog has standing water in it, all the time or part of the time, the ponder (bogger?) should use one of the mosquito dunk products. For my bog I use the mosquito dunk product that comes in grandular form, ground up pieces, like ground beef in size. I toss it around the bog so it will get into all parts, especially those areas that might be isolated from the rest of the bog due to rocks or plants. Here is a technical writeup of the stuff Mosquito Dunks Target Pests: Mosquitoes, black fly larvae *Place Mosquito Dunks in ponds or standing water and it's active ingredient, Bacillus thuringiensis subspecies israaelenses called BTI kills mosquito and black fly larvae for 30 days or more. While floating they slowly release a long term biological mosquito larvacide killing the larvae before they hatch into adults. Will not effect fish, plants, people or wildlife. Alternative wetting and drying will not reduce it's effectiveness. Use one dunk per 100 sqft of water surface. 6 Dunks per pack $8.25 kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
Bog Garden: Episode II
Not to split hairs here, but a true bog shouldn't be used to filter a pond.
A true bog is highly acidic and full of anaerobic bacteria, with little to no water movement. Anything other than this is still a veggie filter, imo. K30, I think you need to invite BV over to help clean up your over run bog area. I don't think he got the point of how hard this is going to be to get under control and just saw how easy it was for you to creat it. ;o) ~ jan On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:18:28 -0500, "BenignVanilla" wrote: I saw Richard's post on the bog garden, and so am now inspired. Oh great, thanks Richard...My kitchen is 3/4 done, my master bath is gutted, the playroom is framed by not wired or sheetrocked, and my stream is leaking water. So what am I going to do? Start another damn pond project. OK, so my question is...I currently have a pond with a bottom drain that feeds a VF. I'd like to build a bog garden for the fun and the look, but would also like it to have a purpose, and do some filtration. I have no idea how to plumb it? How do I get pond water to it, and then back to the pond on a slow cycle? |
Bog Garden: Episode II
jj wrote how hard this is going to be to get
under control There is no such thing as control, only staying one step ahead of disaster! kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
Bog Garden: Episode II
Ka30P wrote:
jj wrote how hard this is going to be to get under control There is no such thing as control, only staying one step ahead of disaster! kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A Hey, that's control in my book. -- Bonnie NJ |
Bog Garden: Episode II
Ka30P wrote:
jj wrote how hard this is going to be to get under control There is no such thing as control, only staying one step ahead of disaster! kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A Hey, that's control in my book. -- Bonnie NJ |
Bog Garden: Episode II
Ka30P wrote:
jj wrote how hard this is going to be to get under control There is no such thing as control, only staying one step ahead of disaster! kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A Hey, that's control in my book. -- Bonnie NJ |
Bog Garden: Episode II
Ka30P wrote:
jj wrote how hard this is going to be to get under control There is no such thing as control, only staying one step ahead of disaster! Hey, that's control in my book. Bonnie Ain't that the truth. Did a water change on the koi ponds today (time to get the salt out before the plants start waking up) and caused a disaster. Killed my small winter pump, as the auto shut off just slid down the pipe as the water lowered and the pump in the filter kept pumping with no water coming in. What should have been a 10 minute job (not counting the time to pump down and refill) ended up being an hour. Had to pull out dead pump, find & connect live pump, fittings were not interchangeable, of course..... s ~ jan ~ jan |
Bog Garden: Episode II
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 23:42:54 -0800, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote: What should have been a 10 minute job (not counting the time to pump down and refill) ended up being an hour. Had to pull out dead pump, find & connect live pump, fittings were not interchangeable, of course..... s ~ jan Having fun already! I can't wait to get started! |
Bog Garden: Episode II
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 23:42:54 -0800, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote: What should have been a 10 minute job (not counting the time to pump down and refill) ended up being an hour. Had to pull out dead pump, find & connect live pump, fittings were not interchangeable, of course..... s ~ jan Having fun already! I can't wait to get started! |
Bog Garden: Episode II
BV when my pond is full the water in the koi pond and the veggie bog are
level, when i start pumpin 7200 gall an hour into the bog in drops the pond about an inch,,,, so from pond to bog to pond ad infinitum John R Ka30P wrote: BV wrotew So do you circulate pond water into it? We did. How much? How fast? There was a split in the pipe that led to the waterfall. We attached a black flexible tube to it. Whatever went into that tube was the volume and the speed. I think it would all be a function of how many holes you drilled in the tube, if you capped the end or not. Which I can't remember if we did or not. Too much water and too fast and you'd flood out the back for sure. Is the bog above the pond and does it drain back via gravity? It is at the edge of the pond and just a wee bit above it. Gravity took care of getting the water back. Any more technical than that I'll have to turn you over to DH. ;-) kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
Bog Garden: Episode II
BV when my pond is full the water in the koi pond and the veggie bog are
level, when i start pumpin 7200 gall an hour into the bog in drops the pond about an inch,,,, so from pond to bog to pond ad infinitum John R Ka30P wrote: BV wrotew So do you circulate pond water into it? We did. How much? How fast? There was a split in the pipe that led to the waterfall. We attached a black flexible tube to it. Whatever went into that tube was the volume and the speed. I think it would all be a function of how many holes you drilled in the tube, if you capped the end or not. Which I can't remember if we did or not. Too much water and too fast and you'd flood out the back for sure. Is the bog above the pond and does it drain back via gravity? It is at the edge of the pond and just a wee bit above it. Gravity took care of getting the water back. Any more technical than that I'll have to turn you over to DH. ;-) kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
Bog Garden: Episode II
BV when my pond is full the water in the koi pond and the veggie bog are
level, when i start pumpin 7200 gall an hour into the bog in drops the pond about an inch,,,, so from pond to bog to pond ad infinitum John R Ka30P wrote: BV wrotew So do you circulate pond water into it? We did. How much? How fast? There was a split in the pipe that led to the waterfall. We attached a black flexible tube to it. Whatever went into that tube was the volume and the speed. I think it would all be a function of how many holes you drilled in the tube, if you capped the end or not. Which I can't remember if we did or not. Too much water and too fast and you'd flood out the back for sure. Is the bog above the pond and does it drain back via gravity? It is at the edge of the pond and just a wee bit above it. Gravity took care of getting the water back. Any more technical than that I'll have to turn you over to DH. ;-) kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
Bog Garden: Episode II
Bonnie wrote: Ka30P wrote: jj wrote how hard this is going to be to get under control There is no such thing as control, only staying one step ahead of disaster! kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A Hey, that's control in my book. back a 4wd pickup into the bog chain onto the plants and start pulling worked for me John Rutz |
Bog Garden: Episode II
"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message ... Not to split hairs here, but a true bog shouldn't be used to filter a pond. A true bog is highly acidic and full of anaerobic bacteria, with little to no water movement. Anything other than this is still a veggie filter, imo. K30, I think you need to invite BV over to help clean up your over run bog area. I don't think he got the point of how hard this is going to be to get under control and just saw how easy it was for you to creat it. ;o) ~ jan snip OK, I am convinced...I think the bog will become a seperate project...a new "pond" so to speak. BV. www.iheartmpond.com |
Bog Garden: Episode II
"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message ... Not to split hairs here, but a true bog shouldn't be used to filter a pond. A true bog is highly acidic and full of anaerobic bacteria, with little to no water movement. Anything other than this is still a veggie filter, imo. K30, I think you need to invite BV over to help clean up your over run bog area. I don't think he got the point of how hard this is going to be to get under control and just saw how easy it was for you to creat it. ;o) ~ jan snip OK, I am convinced...I think the bog will become a seperate project...a new "pond" so to speak. BV. www.iheartmpond.com |
Bog Garden: Episode II
BV wrote
So do you circulate pond water into it? We did. How much? How fast? There was a split in the pipe that led to the waterfall. We attached a black flexible tube to it. Whatever went into that tube was the volume and the speed. I think it would all be a function of how many holes you drilled in the tube, if you capped the end or not. Which I can't remember if we did or not. Too much water and too fast and you'd flood out the back for sure. Is the bog above the pond and does it drain back via gravity? It is at the edge of the pond and just a wee bit above it. Gravity took care of getting the water back. Any more technical than that I'll have to turn you over to DH. ;-) kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
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