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Mickey 04-05-2004 03:04 AM

Pictures of Veggie Filter and where I would like to put Lotus
 
The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie Filter. The
pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the edges. The water
is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting pea gravel in
the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus seed and see
how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an area that
size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and not require a
lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff settle out
and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above ground it is
emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter. So it will be
cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors any plants I
get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus seed on EBay?


http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mic...=/dab1&.src=ph



Mickey 04-05-2004 03:05 AM

Pictures of Veggie Filter and where I would like to put Lotus
 
Oh and if anyone has a creative suggestion with pictures for returning the
water in the "Veggie Filter" picture I would like to see them. I am thinking
of a cistern pump or a couple of flat rocks and a fall type of return. I
need to replace that white pipe.

"Mickey" wrote in message
...
The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie Filter. The
pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the edges. The

water
is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting pea gravel

in
the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus seed and see
how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an area that
size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and not require

a
lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff settle

out
and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above ground it is
emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter. So it will

be
cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors any plants

I
get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus seed on

EBay?



http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mic...=/dab1&.src=ph





Bonnie 04-05-2004 01:04 PM

Pictures of Veggie Filter and where I would like to put Lotus
 
Mickey wrote:
The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie Filter. The
pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the edges. The water
is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting pea gravel in
the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus seed and see
how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an area that
size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and not require a
lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff settle out
and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above ground it is
emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter. So it will be
cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors any plants I
get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus seed on EBay?


http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mic...=/dab1&.src=ph

Hi Mickey,

When I put in my first veggie filter I added 2" of pea
gravel. When I cleaned it the end of the first year, I
hated the pea gravel but thought it was necessary and put
it back into the filter. The next year when I was cleaning
the filter I thought this is nuts and got rid of the gravel.

My advice is not add any type of gravel in a veggie filter.
It's horrible to clean (ask Nedra) and completely
unnecessary. If you have a strong back and love to lift all
the gravel and rinse it thoroughly once a year - go ahead.

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/



Nedra 04-05-2004 05:10 PM

Pictures of Veggie Filter and where I would like to put Lotus
 
Oh Boy - do I ever remember this episode. It took me literally
weeks to lift all the gravel out of the veggie filter. Ugh! Bonnie
is absolutely right. If you plant anything in the veggie filter, please
do yourself a favor. Incorporate the mesh planters in your
plans. If you do intend to plant lotus - put the gravel in a
mesh planting basket, then the seeds. That way you can
rather easily lift the baskets out in the fall or spring for division.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Bonnie" wrote in message
...
Mickey wrote:
The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie Filter. The
pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the edges. The

water
is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting pea

gravel in
the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus seed and

see
how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an area that
size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and not

require a
lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff settle

out
and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above ground it

is
emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter. So it

will be
cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors any

plants I
get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus seed on

EBay?



http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mic...=/dab1&.src=ph

Hi Mickey,

When I put in my first veggie filter I added 2" of pea
gravel. When I cleaned it the end of the first year, I
hated the pea gravel but thought it was necessary and put
it back into the filter. The next year when I was cleaning
the filter I thought this is nuts and got rid of the gravel.

My advice is not add any type of gravel in a veggie filter.
It's horrible to clean (ask Nedra) and completely
unnecessary. If you have a strong back and love to lift all
the gravel and rinse it thoroughly once a year - go ahead.

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/





Mickey 05-05-2004 02:06 AM

Pictures of Veggie Filter and where I would like to put Lotus
 
What size basket did you use for your Lotus? I am going to be putting my
seeds in a glass in jar in the window this week. I have my lilies in mesh
baskets that I overwintered in the garage in a cooler. Will a Lotus over
Winter the same way? I was also going to try and putting a few in my Jiffy
Filter and see how they do. One of the reasons I am getting the Lotus is
economy I can buy the seeds fairly cheap and they are supposed to be hardy.
..
"Nedra" wrote in message
ink.net...
Oh Boy - do I ever remember this episode. It took me literally
weeks to lift all the gravel out of the veggie filter. Ugh! Bonnie
is absolutely right. If you plant anything in the veggie filter, please
do yourself a favor. Incorporate the mesh planters in your
plans. If you do intend to plant lotus - put the gravel in a
mesh planting basket, then the seeds. That way you can
rather easily lift the baskets out in the fall or spring for division.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Bonnie" wrote in message
...
Mickey wrote:
The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie Filter.

The
pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the edges. The

water
is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting pea

gravel in
the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus seed and

see
how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an area

that
size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and not

require a
lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff

settle
out
and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above ground

it
is
emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter. So it

will be
cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors any

plants I
get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus seed on

EBay?




http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mic...=/dab1&.src=ph

Hi Mickey,

When I put in my first veggie filter I added 2" of pea
gravel. When I cleaned it the end of the first year, I
hated the pea gravel but thought it was necessary and put
it back into the filter. The next year when I was cleaning
the filter I thought this is nuts and got rid of the gravel.

My advice is not add any type of gravel in a veggie filter.
It's horrible to clean (ask Nedra) and completely
unnecessary. If you have a strong back and love to lift all
the gravel and rinse it thoroughly once a year - go ahead.

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/







Nedra 05-05-2004 03:04 AM

Pictures of Veggie Filter and where I would like to put Lotus
 
Hi Mickey,

A word of clarification here. I did not plant lotus in my veggie
filter. I have a lotus pond where all the lotuses reside. If you
want to see it just click on the second website under my name..

Okay, if I were to plant a lotus in the veggie filter I think I
would use one of the large curve-ish mesh planters. I would also
fertilize the seedlings while planting them. Then I would let the
veggie filter water take over the fertilization efforts.

For wintering over, just put the lotus in the bottom of your pond.
It should do fine there. Btw, where are you located- geographically
speaking? Lotus are hardy plants. I really don't know of any
that would require moving to the garage.... especially since you
have the bottom of a pond to put it in ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Mickey" wrote in message
...
What size basket did you use for your Lotus? I am going to be putting my
seeds in a glass in jar in the window this week. I have my lilies in mesh
baskets that I overwintered in the garage in a cooler. Will a Lotus over
Winter the same way? I was also going to try and putting a few in my Jiffy
Filter and see how they do. One of the reasons I am getting the Lotus is
economy I can buy the seeds fairly cheap and they are supposed to be

hardy.
.
"Nedra" wrote in message
ink.net...
Oh Boy - do I ever remember this episode. It took me literally
weeks to lift all the gravel out of the veggie filter. Ugh! Bonnie
is absolutely right. If you plant anything in the veggie filter, please
do yourself a favor. Incorporate the mesh planters in your
plans. If you do intend to plant lotus - put the gravel in a
mesh planting basket, then the seeds. That way you can
rather easily lift the baskets out in the fall or spring for division.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Bonnie" wrote in message
...
Mickey wrote:
The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie Filter.

The
pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the edges.

The
water
is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting pea

gravel in
the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus seed

and
see
how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an area

that
size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and not

require a
lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff

settle
out
and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above ground

it
is
emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter. So it

will be
cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors any

plants I
get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus seed

on
EBay?





http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mic...=/dab1&.src=ph

Hi Mickey,

When I put in my first veggie filter I added 2" of pea
gravel. When I cleaned it the end of the first year, I
hated the pea gravel but thought it was necessary and put
it back into the filter. The next year when I was cleaning
the filter I thought this is nuts and got rid of the gravel.

My advice is not add any type of gravel in a veggie filter.
It's horrible to clean (ask Nedra) and completely
unnecessary. If you have a strong back and love to lift all
the gravel and rinse it thoroughly once a year - go ahead.

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/









Mickey 05-05-2004 01:05 PM

Pictures of Veggie Filter and where I would like to put Lotus
 
I live in Central Minnesota 45 miles west of Minneapolis/St.Paul. The pond
is 100% above ground and would freeze solid during the winter so I drain it
and move the fish indoors to the basement. That is the reason I moved my
Lilies to the garage for overwintering last year. Any suggestions for
fertilizer? My lilies are planted in the 12 x 12 mesh baskets and I used
Shultz Aquatic plant soil ( Aka baked clay). It does not make a mess. I have
not seen round planters here I might have to use a round laundry basket and
some screen.

"Nedra" wrote in message
nk.net...
Hi Mickey,

A word of clarification here. I did not plant lotus in my veggie
filter. I have a lotus pond where all the lotuses reside. If you
want to see it just click on the second website under my name..

Okay, if I were to plant a lotus in the veggie filter I think I
would use one of the large curve-ish mesh planters. I would also
fertilize the seedlings while planting them. Then I would let the
veggie filter water take over the fertilization efforts.

For wintering over, just put the lotus in the bottom of your pond.
It should do fine there. Btw, where are you located- geographically
speaking? Lotus are hardy plants. I really don't know of any
that would require moving to the garage.... especially since you
have the bottom of a pond to put it in ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Mickey" wrote in message
...
What size basket did you use for your Lotus? I am going to be putting my
seeds in a glass in jar in the window this week. I have my lilies in

mesh
baskets that I overwintered in the garage in a cooler. Will a Lotus over
Winter the same way? I was also going to try and putting a few in my

Jiffy
Filter and see how they do. One of the reasons I am getting the Lotus is
economy I can buy the seeds fairly cheap and they are supposed to be

hardy.
.
"Nedra" wrote in message
ink.net...
Oh Boy - do I ever remember this episode. It took me literally
weeks to lift all the gravel out of the veggie filter. Ugh! Bonnie
is absolutely right. If you plant anything in the veggie filter,

please
do yourself a favor. Incorporate the mesh planters in your
plans. If you do intend to plant lotus - put the gravel in a
mesh planting basket, then the seeds. That way you can
rather easily lift the baskets out in the fall or spring for division.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Bonnie" wrote in message
...
Mickey wrote:
The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie

Filter.
The
pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the edges.

The
water
is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting pea
gravel in
the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus seed

and
see
how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an

area
that
size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and not
require a
lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff

settle
out
and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above

ground
it
is
emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter. So

it
will be
cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors any
plants I
get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus seed

on
EBay?






http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mic...=/dab1&.src=ph

Hi Mickey,

When I put in my first veggie filter I added 2" of pea
gravel. When I cleaned it the end of the first year, I
hated the pea gravel but thought it was necessary and put
it back into the filter. The next year when I was cleaning
the filter I thought this is nuts and got rid of the gravel.

My advice is not add any type of gravel in a veggie filter.
It's horrible to clean (ask Nedra) and completely
unnecessary. If you have a strong back and love to lift all
the gravel and rinse it thoroughly once a year - go ahead.

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/











Nedra 05-05-2004 04:06 PM

Pictures of Veggie Filter and where I would like to put Lotus
 
I use regular lily tabs for fertilizing. Lots of folk on here use a
variety of vegetable spikes for the same purpose.

Yes, it is good to know your pond situation :)
Of course, with an above ground pond you will need to move the lotus to the
garage. I have planted lotus in a variety of planters...
from square to round. Saw no difference in the growth. Our growing
conditions are so different that I hate to advise you to use less
than what's recommended... and that would be 'round' containers.
Your suggestion sounds doable.... Go For it!

Good Luck!

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Mickey" wrote in message
...
I live in Central Minnesota 45 miles west of Minneapolis/St.Paul. The pond
is 100% above ground and would freeze solid during the winter so I drain

it
and move the fish indoors to the basement. That is the reason I moved my
Lilies to the garage for overwintering last year. Any suggestions for
fertilizer? My lilies are planted in the 12 x 12 mesh baskets and I used
Shultz Aquatic plant soil ( Aka baked clay). It does not make a mess. I

have
not seen round planters here I might have to use a round laundry basket

and
some screen.

"Nedra" wrote in message
nk.net...
Hi Mickey,

A word of clarification here. I did not plant lotus in my veggie
filter. I have a lotus pond where all the lotuses reside. If you
want to see it just click on the second website under my name..

Okay, if I were to plant a lotus in the veggie filter I think I
would use one of the large curve-ish mesh planters. I would also
fertilize the seedlings while planting them. Then I would let the
veggie filter water take over the fertilization efforts.

For wintering over, just put the lotus in the bottom of your pond.
It should do fine there. Btw, where are you located- geographically
speaking? Lotus are hardy plants. I really don't know of any
that would require moving to the garage.... especially since you
have the bottom of a pond to put it in ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Mickey" wrote in message
...
What size basket did you use for your Lotus? I am going to be putting

my
seeds in a glass in jar in the window this week. I have my lilies in

mesh
baskets that I overwintered in the garage in a cooler. Will a Lotus

over
Winter the same way? I was also going to try and putting a few in my

Jiffy
Filter and see how they do. One of the reasons I am getting the Lotus

is
economy I can buy the seeds fairly cheap and they are supposed to be

hardy.
.
"Nedra" wrote in message
ink.net...
Oh Boy - do I ever remember this episode. It took me literally
weeks to lift all the gravel out of the veggie filter. Ugh! Bonnie
is absolutely right. If you plant anything in the veggie filter,

please
do yourself a favor. Incorporate the mesh planters in your
plans. If you do intend to plant lotus - put the gravel in a
mesh planting basket, then the seeds. That way you can
rather easily lift the baskets out in the fall or spring for

division.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Bonnie" wrote in message
...
Mickey wrote:
The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie

Filter.
The
pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the

edges.
The
water
is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting

pea
gravel in
the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus

seed
and
see
how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an

area
that
size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and

not
require a
lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff
settle
out
and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above

ground
it
is
emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter.

So
it
will be
cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors

any
plants I
get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus

seed
on
EBay?







http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mic...=/dab1&.src=ph

Hi Mickey,

When I put in my first veggie filter I added 2" of pea
gravel. When I cleaned it the end of the first year, I
hated the pea gravel but thought it was necessary and put
it back into the filter. The next year when I was cleaning
the filter I thought this is nuts and got rid of the gravel.

My advice is not add any type of gravel in a veggie filter.
It's horrible to clean (ask Nedra) and completely
unnecessary. If you have a strong back and love to lift all
the gravel and rinse it thoroughly once a year - go ahead.

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/














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