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Shubunkin killer caught
Earlier I wrote:
Message 1 in threadFrom: steve ) Subject: Do small hawks or kestrels ever hunt goldfish??? * View this article onlyNewsgroups: rec.ponds Date: 2004-04-23 23:51:51 PST All my fish are hunkered down at the very bottom of my pond which is 3+ feet deep. One of my shubunkins is missing and I noticed their terrified behaviour in mid day. I don't believe it is racoons because my pond walls are very steep and they can't get the fish because they sleep on the bottom at night (they have ripped up plants in shallow areas though). I have never seen a herron in my neighborhood or at my house and cats don't hang around the pond but there is a kestrel that kills small birds in the area and it roosts occasionly in a large tree near my pond. People tell me that kestrels don't go after fish but is this true?? Eagles pull out large fish on nature shows and eagles are not water birds so could'nt a kestrel/small hawk do the same to a small fish?. Has anybody had experience with a fish killing kestrel or small hawk? I believe that the attacks took place on my fish during the day and I have never seen a racoon around here during the day. It was not a kestrel like you all said. I knew it was not a racoon because the fish were terrified during mid day and the pond was not vandalized. It was a Blue Heron (more like a grubby brown/grey herron) The ******* was HUGE like a 747. I was at my neighbors house a block a way and he said a big blue Herron just flew by and I know where he is going. I ran home and he was standing next to my pond and at least 3 feet tall. So much for my theory that it can't be a Heron! Well I put up some netting and left a little spot open in the shallow end so small birds can get a drink, hopefully that will work. Damn the bird was huge. He did eat a lot of my mosqito fish which is o.k, after the initial attack the goldfish got real smart, real quick. How he manage to find my little pond is beyond me. |
Shubunkin killer caught
Steve wrote How he manage to find
my little pond is beyond me. Probably has his own personal AWAKS plane out there ;-) kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
Shubunkin killer caught
I live near the water also. My solution?
If they can't see it from the air they will not come! I built a terrace over the pond which not only gives my fish cover but also protects them from the long summers where I live. I have never lost a fish to herons or large brown pelicans that live around here. |
Shubunkin killer caught
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He flies at bird's eye view! Can see and hear everything! -- _______________________________________ "The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'." http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino "steve" wrote in message om... Earlier I wrote: Message 1 in threadFrom: steve ) Subject: Do small hawks or kestrels ever hunt goldfish??? View this article onlyNewsgroups: rec.ponds Date: 2004-04-23 23:51:51 PST All my fish are hunkered down at the very bottom of my pond which is 3+ feet deep. One of my shubunkins is missing and I noticed their terrified behaviour in mid day. I don't believe it is racoons because my pond walls are very steep and they can't get the fish because they sleep on the bottom at night (they have ripped up plants in shallow areas though). I have never seen a herron in my neighborhood or at my house and cats don't hang around the pond but there is a kestrel that kills small birds in the area and it roosts occasionly in a large tree near my pond. People tell me that kestrels don't go after fish but is this true?? Eagles pull out large fish on nature shows and eagles are not water birds so could'nt a kestrel/small hawk do the same to a small fish?. Has anybody had experience with a fish killing kestrel or small hawk? I believe that the attacks took place on my fish during the day and I have never seen a racoon around here during the day. It was not a kestrel like you all said. I knew it was not a racoon because the fish were terrified during mid day and the pond was not vandalized. It was a Blue Heron (more like a grubby brown/grey herron) The ******* was HUGE like a 747. I was at my neighbors house a block a way and he said a big blue Herron just flew by and I know where he is going. I ran home and he was standing next to my pond and at least 3 feet tall. So much for my theory that it can't be a Heron! Well I put up some netting and left a little spot open in the shallow end so small birds can get a drink, hopefully that will work. Damn the bird was huge. He did eat a lot of my mosqito fish which is o.k, after the initial attack the goldfish got real smart, real quick. How he manage to find my little pond is beyond me. |
Shubunkin killer caught
It was a Blue Heron (more like a grubby brown/grey
herron) The ******* was HUGE like a 747. I was at my neighbors house a block a way and he said a big blue Herron just flew by and I know where he is going. I ran home and he was standing next to my pond and at least 3 feet tall. So much for my theory that it can't be a Heron! Well I put up some netting and left a little spot open in the shallow end so small birds can get a drink, hopefully that will work. Damn the bird was huge. He did eat a lot of my mosqito fish which is o.k, after the initial attack the goldfish got real smart, real quick. How he manage to find my little pond is beyond me. I had a similar experience recently. 15 years with no net and no losses, and no large bodies of water nearby, then a dozen new koi missing (and those had been tank raised for a year to put on size). One time I was on the deck 20 feet from the pond and the heron flew over the house behind me, about 5 feet over my head; and then aborted his landing when he saw me. The rush of air on his wings was amazing! Scared us both! I wasn't happy about the net but sure enough I don't 'see' it anymore, after a few weeks. I have birdbaths so am not worried about birds but I wish the bats could still drink from the pond... |
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I have the same problem but with snowy egrets. I put a section of 5" PVC
pipe in the bottom of the pond so the fish can hide in it. -- Don "steve" wrote in message om... Earlier I wrote: Message 1 in threadFrom: steve ) Subject: Do small hawks or kestrels ever hunt goldfish??? View this article onlyNewsgroups: rec.ponds Date: 2004-04-23 23:51:51 PST All my fish are hunkered down at the very bottom of my pond which is 3+ feet deep. One of my shubunkins is missing and I noticed their terrified behaviour in mid day. I don't believe it is racoons because my pond walls are very steep and they can't get the fish because they sleep on the bottom at night (they have ripped up plants in shallow areas though). I have never seen a herron in my neighborhood or at my house and cats don't hang around the pond but there is a kestrel that kills small birds in the area and it roosts occasionly in a large tree near my pond. People tell me that kestrels don't go after fish but is this true?? Eagles pull out large fish on nature shows and eagles are not water birds so could'nt a kestrel/small hawk do the same to a small fish?. Has anybody had experience with a fish killing kestrel or small hawk? I believe that the attacks took place on my fish during the day and I have never seen a racoon around here during the day. It was not a kestrel like you all said. I knew it was not a racoon because the fish were terrified during mid day and the pond was not vandalized. It was a Blue Heron (more like a grubby brown/grey herron) The ******* was HUGE like a 747. I was at my neighbors house a block a way and he said a big blue Herron just flew by and I know where he is going. I ran home and he was standing next to my pond and at least 3 feet tall. So much for my theory that it can't be a Heron! Well I put up some netting and left a little spot open in the shallow end so small birds can get a drink, hopefully that will work. Damn the bird was huge. He did eat a lot of my mosqito fish which is o.k, after the initial attack the goldfish got real smart, real quick. How he manage to find my little pond is beyond me. |
Shubunkin killer caught
it works for a while, but the egret has evolved to be very very patient. INgrid
"Don" dbitzerATcomcastDOTnet wrote: I have the same problem but with snowy egrets. I put a section of 5" PVC pipe in the bottom of the pond so the fish can hide in it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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Andrew Burgess wrote in message ...
It was a Blue Heron (more like a grubby brown/grey herron) The ******* was HUGE like a 747. I was at my neighbors house a block a way and he said a big blue Herron just flew by and I know where he is going. I ran home and he was standing next to my pond and at least 3 feet tall. So much for my theory that it can't be a Heron! Well I put up some netting and left a little spot open in the shallow end so small birds can get a drink, hopefully that will work. Damn the bird was huge. He did eat a lot of my mosqito fish which is o.k, after the initial attack the goldfish got real smart, real quick. How he manage to find my little pond is beyond me. I had a similar experience recently. 15 years with no net and no losses, and no large bodies of water nearby, then a dozen new koi missing (and those had been tank raised for a year to put on size). One time I was on the deck 20 feet from the pond and the heron flew over the house behind me, about 5 feet over my head; and then aborted his landing when he saw me. The rush of air on his wings was amazing! Scared us both! Yeah it is an awesome bird, and it flies and cruises pretty low to the ground. I guess if it spends half its days flying a straight line over back yards he is gonna find most of the ponds. How deep were your koi? besides not deep enough? I wasn't happy about the net but sure enough I don't 'see' it anymore, after a few weeks. I have birdbaths so am not worried about birds but I wish the bats could still drink from the pond... |
Shubunkin killer caught
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it works for a while, but the egret has evolved to be very very patient. INgrid "Don" dbitzerATcomcastDOTnet wrote: I have the same problem but with snowy egrets. I put a section of 5" PVC pipe in the bottom of the pond so the fish can hide in it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. My friend says that he has seen a heron stand many hours for days over a rodent hole just waiting. Egrets and Herons are suppose to have incredible patience, they don't have A-D-D for sure. It is also amazing how quiet that bird was for its size. |
Shubunkin killer caught
Yeah it is an awesome bird, and it flies and cruises pretty low to the
ground. I guess if it spends half its days flying a straight line over back yards he is gonna find most of the ponds. How deep were your koi? besides not deep enough? 3 feet. Did you view the recent movie referenced here? The heron took a fish from the surface. |
Shubunkin killer caught
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My Great Blue demon has been visiting for three years. After losing all my babies twice I netted. I stay netted all year long. My stupid naivety - I saw this super big woodpecker one morning hanging on the side of the tree, my thinking -" boy is he weird looking " when he turned and looked at me. I was looking at enature.com to check out the bird sounds and saw the bird I thought was a giant woodpecker it was a Night Heron! I have many visitors stalking my pond. "steve" wrote in message om... Earlier I wrote: Message 1 in threadFrom: steve ) Subject: Do small hawks or kestrels ever hunt goldfish??? View this article onlyNewsgroups: rec.ponds Date: 2004-04-23 23:51:51 PST All my fish are hunkered down at the very bottom of my pond which is 3+ feet deep. One of my shubunkins is missing and I noticed their terrified behaviour in mid day. I don't believe it is racoons because my pond walls are very steep and they can't get the fish because they sleep on the bottom at night (they have ripped up plants in shallow areas though). I have never seen a herron in my neighborhood or at my house and cats don't hang around the pond but there is a kestrel that kills small birds in the area and it roosts occasionly in a large tree near my pond. People tell me that kestrels don't go after fish but is this true?? Eagles pull out large fish on nature shows and eagles are not water birds so could'nt a kestrel/small hawk do the same to a small fish?. Has anybody had experience with a fish killing kestrel or small hawk? I believe that the attacks took place on my fish during the day and I have never seen a racoon around here during the day. It was not a kestrel like you all said. I knew it was not a racoon because the fish were terrified during mid day and the pond was not vandalized. It was a Blue Heron (more like a grubby brown/grey herron) The ******* was HUGE like a 747. I was at my neighbors house a block a way and he said a big blue Herron just flew by and I know where he is going. I ran home and he was standing next to my pond and at least 3 feet tall. So much for my theory that it can't be a Heron! Well I put up some netting and left a little spot open in the shallow end so small birds can get a drink, hopefully that will work. Damn the bird was huge. He did eat a lot of my mosqito fish which is o.k, after the initial attack the goldfish got real smart, real quick. How he manage to find my little pond is beyond me. |
Shubunkin killer caught
"noahsnana" wrote in message ...
My Great Blue demon has been visiting for three years. After losing all my babies twice I netted. I stay netted all year long. My stupid naivety - I saw this super big woodpecker one morning hanging on the side of the tree, my thinking -" boy is he weird looking " when he turned and looked at me. I was looking at enature.com to check out the bird sounds and saw the bird I thought was a giant woodpecker it was a Night Heron! I have many visitors stalking my pond. Yeah I saw a weird looking large bird (not monster heron size) also, kind of like an extra large long pigeon with a blocky long sturdy beak - weird shaped thing. I hope he is not a fish killer. He was 20 feet away in a tree from my pond, strangest thing I am looking at him, he is looking at me, just staring at each other. |
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Steve wrote kind of like an extra large long pigeon with a blocky long sturdy
beak - weird shaped thing. hmmmmm, that long beak sounds like either a Night Heron or a Kingfisher. Both love fish. But the Kingfisher will talk at you, kind of a kak-kak-kak, noisy birds. The one that visits my pond always announces he's here. The Night Heron will be quiet. He looks sort of hunched up around his shoulders. kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
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