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Water level down each day unless I run the fountain and other newbie ??
I put a small pond in my front yard. It has some very small gold fish
that were not gold when I bought them, but are now turing gold. In any case, the pond is a 60 gallon pond and each day that I turn the fountain off, I wake up to find the water down by four to five inches. So I drained the pond and checked for cracks and found none. It still went down over each night, it was becoming a problem to put water in it each morning. Then I left the filter/fountain on at night, I was turning it off. With the fountain on, the water level is fine in the morning, now two mornings in a row. OK, I don't know much about ponds, but I'm willing to learn. What could take so much water from my pond at night? If something is drinking it, they have one huge bladder. So what is happening to it? One other thing is that I am using well water for my pond, free of sulfur and rust. I have not tested it yet, but the fish have been in it a week and most have survived. The few that did not showed signes of being gutted like someone would do to clean a fish, cut from one end to the other on the underside. No other damage to the corpse. Thanks for any help.. We love the pond and want to learn enough to feel good about putting a much larger pond in the back yard. I live in South Florida, east coast, Jensen Beach. Joe |
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Water level down each day unless I run the fountain and other newbie ??
When you turn everything off is the pond overflowing into a drain or over
the side. "Joe" wrote in message om... I put a small pond in my front yard. It has some very small gold fish that were not gold when I bought them, but are now turing gold. In any case, the pond is a 60 gallon pond and each day that I turn the fountain off, I wake up to find the water down by four to five inches. So I drained the pond and checked for cracks and found none. It still went down over each night, it was becoming a problem to put water in it each morning. Then I left the filter/fountain on at night, I was turning it off. With the fountain on, the water level is fine in the morning, now two mornings in a row. OK, I don't know much about ponds, but I'm willing to learn. What could take so much water from my pond at night? If something is drinking it, they have one huge bladder. So what is happening to it? One other thing is that I am using well water for my pond, free of sulfur and rust. I have not tested it yet, but the fish have been in it a week and most have survived. The few that did not showed signes of being gutted like someone would do to clean a fish, cut from one end to the other on the underside. No other damage to the corpse. Thanks for any help.. We love the pond and want to learn enough to feel good about putting a much larger pond in the back yard. I live in South Florida, east coast, Jensen Beach. Joe |
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Water level down each day unless I run the fountain and other newbie ??
I put a small pond in my front yard. It has some very small gold fish
that were not gold when I bought them, but are now turing gold. In any case, the pond is a 60 gallon pond and each day that I turn the fountain off, I wake up to find the water down by four to five inches. So I drained the pond and checked for cracks and found none. It still went down over each night, it was becoming a problem to put water in it each morning. Then I left the filter/fountain on at night, I was turning it off. With the fountain on, the water level is fine in the morning, now two mornings in a row. Is there a leak in the suction line of the pump? It would pull in air when the pump ran but leak water when the pump was off. |
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Water level down each day unless I run the fountain and other newbie ??
On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 14:37:07 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Burgess
wrote: I put a small pond in my front yard. It has some very small gold fish that were not gold when I bought them, but are now turing gold. In any case, the pond is a 60 gallon pond and each day that I turn the fountain off, I wake up to find the water down by four to five inches. So I drained the pond and checked for cracks and found none. It still went down over each night, it was becoming a problem to put water in it each morning. Then I left the filter/fountain on at night, I was turning it off. With the fountain on, the water level is fine in the morning, now two mornings in a row. Is there a leak in the suction line of the pump? It would pull in air when the pump ran but leak water when the pump was off. Another possibility is a critter climbing to catch fish. You said that you had some fish chewed up - was that after a night of no fountain running? If so, then the fountain may be warding off the critter. When the fountain is off the critter climbs in and the displaced water spills out. Then the critter climbs out carrying water in its fur or on its skin. A possibility. |
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Water level down each day unless I run the fountain and other newbie ??
Then I left the filter/fountain on at night, I was turning it off. With the fountain on, the water level is fine in the morning,Beach. Then I would leave the fountain on. My pumps and fountains run 24/7. Ron |
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Water level down each day unless I run the fountain and other newbie ??
From the condition of the fish reported and the water level going down I wonder if a raccoon has been making the pond a nightly stop? If so you can try these deterrents: ~ An electric fido shock fence, found in most large pet stores, can be put on a time to avoid shocking ponder and pets. ~ A motion activated sprinkler ~ Call animal control and ask if they have a Hav-a-Hart humane animal trap to borrow or rent kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
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Water level down each day unless I run the fountain and other newbie ??
It has now been almost a week since I started running the pump all the
time and the water level has not gone down since that time. As for animals, we have some wild animals, but not any that could drink or otherwise take 5 gallons of water from the pond in one night. So, this may stay a mistery for me. The pump will stay running all the time. The next biggest problem is that my honey was coming home the other night and saw a pond in front of another house on my block that was bigger and better than ours. I told her that the best I could do is kick some of their rocks and put a hole in their pond. I wasn't going to tear mine up and make it bigger, or better. She loves our pond in any case. the tiny fish that the pet store called goldfish, but were not gold, have now turned gold. Joe "Mickey" wrote in message ... When you turn everything off is the pond overflowing into a drain or over the side. "Joe" wrote in message om... I put a small pond in my front yard. It has some very small gold fish that were not gold when I bought them, but are now turing gold. In any case, the pond is a 60 gallon pond and each day that I turn the fountain off, I wake up to find the water down by four to five inches. So I drained the pond and checked for cracks and found none. It still |
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Water level down each day unless I run the fountain and other newbie ??
"Joe" wrote in message om... It has now been almost a week since I started running the pump all the time and the water level has not gone down since that time. snip I am baffled by this. You have a 60 gallon pond with a submersible pump that squirts water in the air. If you leave it running, the pond is fine. If you shut it off the pond loses 5+ gallons a night. If you leave it off, does the water continually drain or does it always stop at 5 or so gallons? In other words, will the pond drain completely with the pump off or just to a certain level? With the pump off does the water level rise at all, immediately? IE, is some of the pond volume always within the plumbing? Do you have terrestrial plants wicking water from the pond? I had turf grass growing into my pond, it was removing A LOT of water. BV. |
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Water level down each day unless I run the fountain and other newbie ??
It has now been almost a week since I started running the pump all the
time and the water level has not gone down since that time. As for animals, we have some wild animals, but not any that could drink or otherwise take 5 gallons of water from the pond in one night. So, this may stay a mistery for me. The pump will stay running all the time. The next biggest problem is that my honey was coming home the other night and saw a pond in front of another house on my block that was bigger and better than ours. I told her that the best I could do is kick some of their rocks and put a hole in their pond. I wasn't going to tear mine up and make it bigger, or better. She loves our pond in any case. the tiny fish that the pet store called goldfish, but were not gold, have now turned gold. Joe "Mickey" wrote in message ... When you turn everything off is the pond overflowing into a drain or over the side. "Joe" wrote in message om... I put a small pond in my front yard. It has some very small gold fish that were not gold when I bought them, but are now turing gold. In any case, the pond is a 60 gallon pond and each day that I turn the fountain off, I wake up to find the water down by four to five inches. So I drained the pond and checked for cracks and found none. It still |
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Water level down each day unless I run the fountain and other newbie ??
"Joe" wrote in message om... It has now been almost a week since I started running the pump all the time and the water level has not gone down since that time. snip I am baffled by this. You have a 60 gallon pond with a submersible pump that squirts water in the air. If you leave it running, the pond is fine. If you shut it off the pond loses 5+ gallons a night. If you leave it off, does the water continually drain or does it always stop at 5 or so gallons? In other words, will the pond drain completely with the pump off or just to a certain level? With the pump off does the water level rise at all, immediately? IE, is some of the pond volume always within the plumbing? Do you have terrestrial plants wicking water from the pond? I had turf grass growing into my pond, it was removing A LOT of water. BV. |
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Water level down each day unless I run the fountain and other newbie ??
Joe wrote I wasn't
going to tear mine up and make it bigger, or better. You're not thinking in the right direction... think second pond, third pond, think no more grass to mow...! kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
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Water level down each day unless I run the fountain and other newbie ??
"Joe" wrote in message
om... [snip] It has now been almost a week since I started running the pump all the time and the water level has not gone down since that time. What's the weather been like? Not a trivial question. When it's windy around here, and the wind's from the right direction, my above-ground pond with the fountain loses more water than the above-ground pond right next to it with no fountain (or any filtration). Then there's evaporation from heat (partially affected by plant cover in your pond), low humidity, etc. That doesn't explain why running the fountain 24/7 *appears* to make a difference. Maybe it doesn't. I'd keep an eye on the weather for awhile as another possible cause of your water loss. pond in any case. the tiny fish that the pet store called goldfish, but were not gold, have now turned gold. I once mistook two goldfish fry for minnows. At that time, the two species were in the same tank. When the "minnows" got a bit larger and started developing color (one's gold, the other's a calico) I realized I had two baby goldfish on my hands! They do start out brown. Gail |
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Water level down each day unless I run the fountain and other newbie ??
I guess it was some sort of animal. It has been a few weeks and the
water is still good, nothing added, nothing lost. We put the pump on 24/7 and that was the only change. |
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