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Koi Hardiness( A Learning Experience)
I had a learning experience a couple of winters ago with my Koi(had them 8
years at that time). It was early January 4 degrees F outside. I always bi-pass my bio/veggie filter over the winter and have a good hard stream of water going directly into the pond from the pump. When the water starts to ice over(maybe for a week or two) in January the forceful stream keeps a hole open in the ice. Anyway....I hadn't check on the pond in the morning like I usually do(to darn cold outside!!!) , my daughter happened to be going outside and I asked her to check on the pond. This was in the early evening before sundown. She came running into the house saying the pond was almost dry and the backs of the Koi were up and out of the water. I ran outside in disbelieve. Sure enough the hose for the stream of water had slipped and almost all of the water had drained from the pond(4 degrees F outside). My garden hose was frozen so I ran to my brother in laws about 3 blocks away that keep his garden hose in a heated garage. I ran home....threw some antichlor into the pond,hooked the hose up and started filling up the pond. Never phased the fish one bit...the survived the ordeal fine. No sickness..didn't lose one fish. {:O) KOI are VERY HARDY and ADAPTABLE. Mike |
Koi Hardiness( A Learning Experience)
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Koi Hardiness( A Learning Experience)
To make a dechlor device to attach to the end of your hose go here http://www.pondrushes.net/tips.htm and scroll down to tip 18. I use this and have been happy with it. kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
Koi Hardiness( A Learning Experience)
wrote in message ... I think you are right. LOL As a side note and a helpful hint. I always keep a bottle of dechlor on hand. I also now make it a habit when doing a water change to set the timer on our stove as a reminder that I am adding water to the pond. More than once I had forgotten about the hose running and had added way to much chlorinated water to the pond. Once again my guardian angel was watching my fish. I keep a half gallon of dechlor on hand at all times. When I top off/refill, I use a meter on the hose ($15 at Home Depot) and I fill 200 gallons at a time. Add dechlor, fill. Lather, rinse, repeat as needed. Takes some extra time, but pretty safe. BV. |
Koi Hardiness( A Learning Experience)
Thanks Kathy - We don't have chloramine, only chlorine here, so I just
'spray' the water when I add to the pond, but this device looks good and I am going to look into making one Gale :~) "Ka30P" wrote in message ... To make a dechlor device to attach to the end of your hose go here http://www.pondrushes.net/tips.htm and scroll down to tip 18. I use this and have been happy with it. kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
Koi Hardiness( A Learning Experience)
BV, You've touched on something I've been thinking about since reading
about all the accidents here - i.e. walking away from the pond while it is filling. When I fill the pond or top it off ... that is all I do. No starting or continuing or wandering off a job Until the Filling is complete. Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Benign Vanilla" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... I think you are right. LOL As a side note and a helpful hint. I always keep a bottle of dechlor on hand. I also now make it a habit when doing a water change to set the timer on our stove as a reminder that I am adding water to the pond. More than once I had forgotten about the hose running and had added way to much chlorinated water to the pond. Once again my guardian angel was watching my fish. I keep a half gallon of dechlor on hand at all times. When I top off/refill, I use a meter on the hose ($15 at Home Depot) and I fill 200 gallons at a time. Add dechlor, fill. Lather, rinse, repeat as needed. Takes some extra time, but pretty safe. BV. |
Koi Hardiness( A Learning Experience)
Gale wrote so I just
'spray' the water when I add to the pond That reminds me of one of my goofier experiments as a new ponder. Setting the hose on spray, propping it up and then trying to catch the spray in one of those little test tubes... kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
Koi Hardiness( A Learning Experience)
Why don't folks install a automatic valve to fill the pond? Co-op
stores sell a cheap valve to keep cattle troughs full (a toilet valve would work as well). A supply line, check value, and the water filter mentioned in this thread and you never have to worry about it again. If your pond sprung a leak you could at least keep some water coming in. What's worse on the fish, no water or different water? Mark B. Benign Vanilla wrote: wrote in message ... I think you are right. LOL As a side note and a helpful hint. I always keep a bottle of dechlor on hand. I also now make it a habit when doing a water change to set the timer on our stove as a reminder that I am adding water to the pond. More than once I had forgotten about the hose running and had added way to much chlorinated water to the pond. Once again my guardian angel was watching my fish. I keep a half gallon of dechlor on hand at all times. When I top off/refill, I use a meter on the hose ($15 at Home Depot) and I fill 200 gallons at a time. Add dechlor, fill. Lather, rinse, repeat as needed. Takes some extra time, but pretty safe. BV. |
Koi Hardiness( A Learning Experience)
In article . net,
Nedra wrote: BV, You've touched on something I've been thinking about since reading about all the accidents here - i.e. walking away from the pond while it is filling. When I fill the pond or top it off ... that is all I do. No starting or continuing or wandering off a job Until the Filling is complete. I have a snooze alarm on my cell phone, I don't fill without starting that 10 min alarm cycle. Koi are extremely sensitive to chlorine. jay Wed Jun 09, 2004 Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Benign Vanilla" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... I think you are right. LOL As a side note and a helpful hint. I always keep a bottle of dechlor on hand. I also now make it a habit when doing a water change to set the timer on our stove as a reminder that I am adding water to the pond. More than once I had forgotten about the hose running and had added way to much chlorinated water to the pond. Once again my guardian angel was watching my fish. I keep a half gallon of dechlor on hand at all times. When I top off/refill, I use a meter on the hose ($15 at Home Depot) and I fill 200 gallons at a time. Add dechlor, fill. Lather, rinse, repeat as needed. Takes some extra time, but pretty safe. BV. |
Koi Hardiness( A Learning Experience)
What I meant by spraying the water is that I lay the watering wand in such a
way that the water sprays up in the air, with the setting on spray so that most of the chlorine gets dissipated through aeration as opposed to dropping the hose into the pond to top it up Gale :~) "Ka30P" wrote in message ... Gale wrote so I just 'spray' the water when I add to the pond That reminds me of one of my goofier experiments as a new ponder. Setting the hose on spray, propping it up and then trying to catch the spray in one of those little test tubes... kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
Koi Hardiness( A Learning Experience)
I've thought about this a bit.
The main reason I have not installed one is aesthetics. There is no way to put one in my pond without it looking hideous. I've spent hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars for a pleasing appearance, so I fill and top the "hard" way, by hand. Another factor to consider is that if the valve failed in "on" position you could kill your fish with chlorine and not even know it until their pooor lifeless little bodies are floating upside down... :-p And yes, I've had a toilet fill valve fail in just this way. Cost me $6,000 just to repair my septic system, -plus- when the system was saturated the water backed up into the house and all the toilets and tubs overflowed. For about 2 hours until I woke up in the middle of the night and stepped on wet carpet. Mike On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 12:19:36 -0500, Mark Bannister wrote: Why don't folks install a automatic valve to fill the pond? Co-op stores sell a cheap valve to keep cattle troughs full (a toilet valve would work as well). A supply line, check value, and the water filter mentioned in this thread and you never have to worry about it again. If your pond sprung a leak you could at least keep some water coming in. What's worse on the fish, no water or different water? Mark B. Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. "I always wanted to be somebody. I should have been more specific..." |
Koi Hardiness( A Learning Experience)
Mike:
I agree, failure would be bad, but if you had the water filter on it then chlorine would not be an issue. You could also have some sort of redundant shut-off (a little harder to do). Aesthetics would be an issue for me as well. You would want to hide it for sure. In my case the pond is elevated and I will have a reservoir sitting by the pump that this can attach to. An overflow pipe will also be there. All unseen cause pump is in the garage. Mark B. Mike Patterson wrote: I've thought about this a bit. The main reason I have not installed one is aesthetics. There is no way to put one in my pond without it looking hideous. I've spent hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars for a pleasing appearance, so I fill and top the "hard" way, by hand. Another factor to consider is that if the valve failed in "on" position you could kill your fish with chlorine and not even know it until their pooor lifeless little bodies are floating upside down... :-p And yes, I've had a toilet fill valve fail in just this way. Cost me $6,000 just to repair my septic system, -plus- when the system was saturated the water backed up into the house and all the toilets and tubs overflowed. For about 2 hours until I woke up in the middle of the night and stepped on wet carpet. Mike On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 12:19:36 -0500, Mark Bannister wrote: Why don't folks install a automatic valve to fill the pond? Co-op stores sell a cheap valve to keep cattle troughs full (a toilet valve would work as well). A supply line, check value, and the water filter mentioned in this thread and you never have to worry about it again. If your pond sprung a leak you could at least keep some water coming in. What's worse on the fish, no water or different water? Mark B. Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. "I always wanted to be somebody. I should have been more specific..." |
Koi Hardiness( A Learning Experience)
In article , Mark Bannister
wrote: Mike: I agree, failure would be bad, w/ autofills keep the water pressure to a minimum on a municipal fill line. To keep pace w/ evaporation it can be set just to drip out very slowly... its not getting paid by the hour... let it work all day long. jay Wed Jun 09, 2004 but if you had the water filter on it then chlorine would not be an issue. You could also have some sort of redundant shut-off (a little harder to do). Aesthetics would be an issue for me as well. You would want to hide it for sure. In my case the pond is elevated and I will have a reservoir sitting by the pump that this can attach to. An overflow pipe will also be there. All unseen cause pump is in the garage. Mark B. Mike Patterson wrote: I've thought about this a bit. The main reason I have not installed one is aesthetics. There is no way to put one in my pond without it looking hideous. I've spent hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars for a pleasing appearance, so I fill and top the "hard" way, by hand. Another factor to consider is that if the valve failed in "on" position you could kill your fish with chlorine and not even know it until their pooor lifeless little bodies are floating upside down... :-p And yes, I've had a toilet fill valve fail in just this way. Cost me $6,000 just to repair my septic system, -plus- when the system was saturated the water backed up into the house and all the toilets and tubs overflowed. For about 2 hours until I woke up in the middle of the night and stepped on wet carpet. Mike On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 12:19:36 -0500, Mark Bannister wrote: Why don't folks install a automatic valve to fill the pond? Co-op stores sell a cheap valve to keep cattle troughs full (a toilet valve would work as well). A supply line, check value, and the water filter mentioned in this thread and you never have to worry about it again. If your pond sprung a leak you could at least keep some water coming in. What's worse on the fish, no water or different water? Mark B. Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. "I always wanted to be somebody. I should have been more specific..." |
Koi Hardiness( A Learning Experience)
does this work on just an ammonia problem?
we use well water to top off our pond, a small amount of ammonia is in it (tired of spending the $$$ to add ammonia removers) "Ka30P" wrote in message ... To make a dechlor device to attach to the end of your hose go here http://www.pondrushes.net/tips.htm and scroll down to tip 18. I use this and have been happy with it. kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
Koi Hardiness( A Learning Experience)
muffin wrote does this work on just an ammonia problem?
That I'm not sure of. kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
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