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liner hole repair
I have a small preformed pond that has split. I sealed it with
silicone but the leak is back and the split a little larger. Is there an easy way to seal the tear? thanks |
They sell a two sided liner tape that is good for that---if you can't over
lap the cut--then just add a piece of liner like you would do in a swimming pool and use the tape to bond it. Pat "Mike" wrote in message om... I have a small preformed pond that has split. I sealed it with silicone but the leak is back and the split a little larger. Is there an easy way to seal the tear? thanks |
They sell a two sided liner tape that is good for that---if you can't over
lap the cut--then just add a piece of liner like you would do in a swimming pool and use the tape to bond it. Pat "Mike" wrote in message om... I have a small preformed pond that has split. I sealed it with silicone but the leak is back and the split a little larger. Is there an easy way to seal the tear? thanks |
"Mike" wrote in message
om... I have a small preformed pond that has split. I sealed it with silicone but the leak is back and the split a little larger. Is there an easy way to seal the tear? Hi, To stop it from getting larger, drill a small hole at both ends of the split. Patch it with liner tape or I've heard that a hot melt gun can fix them. HTH -_- how no NEWS is good |
"Mike" wrote in message
om... I have a small preformed pond that has split. I sealed it with silicone but the leak is back and the split a little larger. Is there an easy way to seal the tear? Hi, To stop it from getting larger, drill a small hole at both ends of the split. Patch it with liner tape or I've heard that a hot melt gun can fix them. HTH -_- how no NEWS is good |
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:42:04 -0400, "how"
wrote: "Mike" wrote in message . com... I have a small preformed pond that has split. I sealed it with silicone but the leak is back and the split a little larger. Is there an easy way to seal the tear? Hi, To stop it from getting larger, drill a small hole at both ends of the split. Patch it with liner tape or I've heard that a hot melt gun can fix them. I have had good luck with "Goop" adhesives for this. There are several varieties; perhaps the "Plumbers Goop" would work best. You could try adding reinforcing tape, too. It needs to be dry, however. PVC can be welded with a hot air gun, so if you know someone with one this could be done, too. -- Crashj -- Crashj |
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:42:04 -0400, "how"
wrote: "Mike" wrote in message . com... I have a small preformed pond that has split. I sealed it with silicone but the leak is back and the split a little larger. Is there an easy way to seal the tear? Hi, To stop it from getting larger, drill a small hole at both ends of the split. Patch it with liner tape or I've heard that a hot melt gun can fix them. I have had good luck with "Goop" adhesives for this. There are several varieties; perhaps the "Plumbers Goop" would work best. You could try adding reinforcing tape, too. It needs to be dry, however. PVC can be welded with a hot air gun, so if you know someone with one this could be done, too. -- Crashj -- Crashj |
Mike wrote:
I have a small preformed pond that has split. I sealed it with silicone but the leak is back and the split a little larger. Is there an easy way to seal the tear? thanks scuff it a bit and use clear hot glue -- http://www.kencofish.com Ken Arnold, 401-831-5739 cell 401-225-0556 Importer/Exporter of Goldfish,Koi,rare Predators Shipping to legal states/countries only! Permalon liners, Oase & Supreme Pondmaster pumps Linux (SuSE 8.2) user #329121 Please Note: No trees or animals were harmed in the sending of this contaminant free message We do concede that a signicant number of electrons may have been inconvenienced ;) |
Mike wrote:
I have a small preformed pond that has split. I sealed it with silicone but the leak is back and the split a little larger. Is there an easy way to seal the tear? thanks scuff it a bit and use clear hot glue -- http://www.kencofish.com Ken Arnold, 401-831-5739 cell 401-225-0556 Importer/Exporter of Goldfish,Koi,rare Predators Shipping to legal states/countries only! Permalon liners, Oase & Supreme Pondmaster pumps Linux (SuSE 8.2) user #329121 Please Note: No trees or animals were harmed in the sending of this contaminant free message We do concede that a signicant number of electrons may have been inconvenienced ;) |
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 03:48:33 -0400, KenCo wrote:
===Mike wrote: === I have a small preformed pond that has split. I sealed it with === silicone but the leak is back and the split a little larger. Is there === an easy way to seal the tear? === === thanks === === ===scuff it a bit and use clear hot glue You can get a cheap plastic welding kit from Harbor freight. Its not all that hard to use. Most tubs are a PP or PE type plastic, and readily repairable by usiing the plastic welder. You will need a compressed air source to use it, so that in and of itself may not be feasible if you do not have a compressor. Not much sticks to PE or PP type plastics other than the same type material melted into the hole. Hot glues, epoxie and silicones will all eventually start leaking again if used solely by themself, due to the nature of the material the preform is made of. Its naturally slick and most solvents do not dissolve it, and its slickness even if scuffed up still fails to hold most sealers sufficiently. Besides water pressure will flex the seal and probably cause it to reopen, so it really requires a patch over the split to constrain the split.. You could get a like material (lots of items are made of these type materials, plastic buckets, kiddie pools, basins, etc etc ) and make a patch for it, and use silicone between the patch and the preform for a sealer, and use blind rivets or small stainless steel fasteners or even nylon fasteners to secure patch to preform, but its going to require removing the preform if you use fasteners other than blind rivets (pop rivets) which are available in stainless steel. Just be sure to coat the blind rivet with silicone before inserting in hole and give it a dollap or silicone after its installed so it does not weep water out of the hole the pulling stem swells up into. If you decide to try and patch it, drill a small hole of approximately 1/16" or 5/32" inch in diameter directly at the both ends of the crack. This will stop any stresses from making the crack grow any longer. Overlap your split by a minimum of 3/4" on all sides. I have 55 gal PP & PE drums sealed with pop rivet patches that have been leak free for years. (PP=Polypropelyene, PE= Polyethylene Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 03:48:33 -0400, KenCo wrote:
===Mike wrote: === I have a small preformed pond that has split. I sealed it with === silicone but the leak is back and the split a little larger. Is there === an easy way to seal the tear? === === thanks === === ===scuff it a bit and use clear hot glue You can get a cheap plastic welding kit from Harbor freight. Its not all that hard to use. Most tubs are a PP or PE type plastic, and readily repairable by usiing the plastic welder. You will need a compressed air source to use it, so that in and of itself may not be feasible if you do not have a compressor. Not much sticks to PE or PP type plastics other than the same type material melted into the hole. Hot glues, epoxie and silicones will all eventually start leaking again if used solely by themself, due to the nature of the material the preform is made of. Its naturally slick and most solvents do not dissolve it, and its slickness even if scuffed up still fails to hold most sealers sufficiently. Besides water pressure will flex the seal and probably cause it to reopen, so it really requires a patch over the split to constrain the split.. You could get a like material (lots of items are made of these type materials, plastic buckets, kiddie pools, basins, etc etc ) and make a patch for it, and use silicone between the patch and the preform for a sealer, and use blind rivets or small stainless steel fasteners or even nylon fasteners to secure patch to preform, but its going to require removing the preform if you use fasteners other than blind rivets (pop rivets) which are available in stainless steel. Just be sure to coat the blind rivet with silicone before inserting in hole and give it a dollap or silicone after its installed so it does not weep water out of the hole the pulling stem swells up into. If you decide to try and patch it, drill a small hole of approximately 1/16" or 5/32" inch in diameter directly at the both ends of the crack. This will stop any stresses from making the crack grow any longer. Overlap your split by a minimum of 3/4" on all sides. I have 55 gal PP & PE drums sealed with pop rivet patches that have been leak free for years. (PP=Polypropelyene, PE= Polyethylene Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 03:48:33 -0400, KenCo wrote:
===Mike wrote: === I have a small preformed pond that has split. I sealed it with === silicone but the leak is back and the split a little larger. Is there === an easy way to seal the tear? === === thanks === === ===scuff it a bit and use clear hot glue You can get a cheap plastic welding kit from Harbor freight. Its not all that hard to use. Most tubs are a PP or PE type plastic, and readily repairable by usiing the plastic welder. You will need a compressed air source to use it, so that in and of itself may not be feasible if you do not have a compressor. Not much sticks to PE or PP type plastics other than the same type material melted into the hole. Hot glues, epoxie and silicones will all eventually start leaking again if used solely by themself, due to the nature of the material the preform is made of. Its naturally slick and most solvents do not dissolve it, and its slickness even if scuffed up still fails to hold most sealers sufficiently. Besides water pressure will flex the seal and probably cause it to reopen, so it really requires a patch over the split to constrain the split.. You could get a like material (lots of items are made of these type materials, plastic buckets, kiddie pools, basins, etc etc ) and make a patch for it, and use silicone between the patch and the preform for a sealer, and use blind rivets or small stainless steel fasteners or even nylon fasteners to secure patch to preform, but its going to require removing the preform if you use fasteners other than blind rivets (pop rivets) which are available in stainless steel. Just be sure to coat the blind rivet with silicone before inserting in hole and give it a dollap or silicone after its installed so it does not weep water out of the hole the pulling stem swells up into. If you decide to try and patch it, drill a small hole of approximately 1/16" or 5/32" inch in diameter directly at the both ends of the crack. This will stop any stresses from making the crack grow any longer. Overlap your split by a minimum of 3/4" on all sides. I have 55 gal PP & PE drums sealed with pop rivet patches that have been leak free for years. I have used patch kits for an RV storage tank, available at any camping place, which are relatively cheap. They have some reinforcement fiber patches used with epoxy which might work for your situation. |
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 03:48:33 -0400, KenCo wrote:
===Mike wrote: === I have a small preformed pond that has split. I sealed it with === silicone but the leak is back and the split a little larger. Is there === an easy way to seal the tear? === === thanks === === ===scuff it a bit and use clear hot glue You can get a cheap plastic welding kit from Harbor freight. Its not all that hard to use. Most tubs are a PP or PE type plastic, and readily repairable by usiing the plastic welder. You will need a compressed air source to use it, so that in and of itself may not be feasible if you do not have a compressor. Not much sticks to PE or PP type plastics other than the same type material melted into the hole. Hot glues, epoxie and silicones will all eventually start leaking again if used solely by themself, due to the nature of the material the preform is made of. Its naturally slick and most solvents do not dissolve it, and its slickness even if scuffed up still fails to hold most sealers sufficiently. Besides water pressure will flex the seal and probably cause it to reopen, so it really requires a patch over the split to constrain the split.. You could get a like material (lots of items are made of these type materials, plastic buckets, kiddie pools, basins, etc etc ) and make a patch for it, and use silicone between the patch and the preform for a sealer, and use blind rivets or small stainless steel fasteners or even nylon fasteners to secure patch to preform, but its going to require removing the preform if you use fasteners other than blind rivets (pop rivets) which are available in stainless steel. Just be sure to coat the blind rivet with silicone before inserting in hole and give it a dollap or silicone after its installed so it does not weep water out of the hole the pulling stem swells up into. If you decide to try and patch it, drill a small hole of approximately 1/16" or 5/32" inch in diameter directly at the both ends of the crack. This will stop any stresses from making the crack grow any longer. Overlap your split by a minimum of 3/4" on all sides. I have 55 gal PP & PE drums sealed with pop rivet patches that have been leak free for years. I have used patch kits for an RV storage tank, available at any camping place, which are relatively cheap. They have some reinforcement fiber patches used with epoxy which might work for your situation. |
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