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Well my pond is now full and it survived Ivan
Its actually more than full as the stream came up so high it was
higher than my ponds spillway and it flooded into the pond. Water was within 3 inches of going over my enclosure and I was sweating it for awhile. Its starting to recede now so thats a relief. All its going to cost me is a new pump oif I can't fix this one. In all the years I lived here and lots of heavy rains hurricanes and storms the water has never gotten up as high as it did this time, and I had thought my pumps sublevel house was ore than sufficient to keepo water out of it, if the pond or creek rose up......wrong, pump was under more than a foot or water. Gonna give it time to dry out after I take it apart, but its gonna have to set for awhile as the house and property comes first.......Old Ivan managed to dump 19 1/2 inches of rain on me in less than 12 hours time.........and wipe out over 2 dozen mature oak and long leaf pine trees, and those are just the ones I am gonna have to finish taking down. He knocked quite a few done all the way. Most are in the 100+ foot tall range......... Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
Glad you made it, and apparently have power (generator?) Sorry about the
trees, pump and mess. ~ jan On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 01:48:06 GMT, (Roy) wrote: Its actually more than full as the stream came up so high it was higher than my ponds spillway and it flooded into the pond. Water was within 3 inches of going over my enclosure and I was sweating it for awhile. Its starting to recede now so thats a relief. All its going to cost me is a new pump oif I can't fix this one. In all the years I lived here and lots of heavy rains hurricanes and storms the water has never gotten up as high as it did this time, and I had thought my pumps sublevel house was ore than sufficient to keepo water out of it, if the pond or creek rose up......wrong, pump was under more than a foot or water. Gonna give it time to dry out after I take it apart, but its gonna have to set for awhile as the house and property comes first.......Old Ivan managed to dump 19 1/2 inches of rain on me in less than 12 hours time.........and wipe out over 2 dozen mature oak and long leaf pine trees, and those are just the ones I am gonna have to finish taking down. He knocked quite a few done all the way. Most are in the 100+ foot tall range......... Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. ~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~ |
I'm up in NC, and wwe're getting buckets of water all day, with what looks
like another 2 days worth ahead, and we already had mudslides n such from the last huricanne. Kinda funny though.. our pond is still mostly green again, but when it was raining hard today, I checked up on it, and all the fish were up near the top, almost as if they were "playing" in the rain! LOL!! I'm a little concerned about overhigh water levels as well. Hope the little guys don't get washed out, and take a yard trip... -- Gareee© (Gareee "at" Charter "dot" net) Homepage: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine.../mainframe.htm Custom Figures, Wallpapers and more! |
I'm up in NC, and wwe're getting buckets of water all day, with what looks
like another 2 days worth ahead, and we already had mudslides n such from the last huricanne. Kinda funny though.. our pond is still mostly green again, but when it was raining hard today, I checked up on it, and all the fish were up near the top, almost as if they were "playing" in the rain! LOL!! I'm a little concerned about overhigh water levels as well. Hope the little guys don't get washed out, and take a yard trip... -- Gareee© (Gareee "at" Charter "dot" net) Homepage: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine.../mainframe.htm Custom Figures, Wallpapers and more! |
"Roy" wrote in message ... Its actually more than full as the stream came up so high it was higher than my ponds spillway and it flooded into the pond. Water was within 3 inches of going over my enclosure and I was sweating it for awhile. Its starting to recede now so thats a relief. All its going to cost me is a new pump oif I can't fix this one. In all the years I lived here and lots of heavy rains hurricanes and storms the water has never gotten up as high as it did this time, and I had thought my pumps sublevel house was ore than sufficient to keepo water out of it, if the pond or creek rose up......wrong, pump was under more than a foot or water. Gonna give it time to dry out after I take it apart, but its gonna have to set for awhile as the house and property comes first.......Old Ivan managed to dump 19 1/2 inches of rain on me in less than 12 hours time.........and wipe out over 2 dozen mature oak and long leaf pine trees, and those are just the ones I am gonna have to finish taking down. He knocked quite a few done all the way. Most are in the 100+ foot tall range......... Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. Yipes! I can't imagine how you managed to not have more damage to your pond. Good luck. I'd loan you my 18" chain saw, but you are quite a distance away from me. Glad to see that no one was hurt. Was expecting to see some of that rain, but thankfully I live a little west of the storm track (Louisville) for it to have much influence. We are expecting less than an inch today, but eastern Kentucky is supposed to get drenched. |
"Roy" wrote in message ... Its actually more than full as the stream came up so high it was higher than my ponds spillway and it flooded into the pond. Water was within 3 inches of going over my enclosure and I was sweating it for awhile. Its starting to recede now so thats a relief. All its going to cost me is a new pump oif I can't fix this one. In all the years I lived here and lots of heavy rains hurricanes and storms the water has never gotten up as high as it did this time, and I had thought my pumps sublevel house was ore than sufficient to keepo water out of it, if the pond or creek rose up......wrong, pump was under more than a foot or water. Gonna give it time to dry out after I take it apart, but its gonna have to set for awhile as the house and property comes first.......Old Ivan managed to dump 19 1/2 inches of rain on me in less than 12 hours time.........and wipe out over 2 dozen mature oak and long leaf pine trees, and those are just the ones I am gonna have to finish taking down. He knocked quite a few done all the way. Most are in the 100+ foot tall range......... Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. Yipes! I can't imagine how you managed to not have more damage to your pond. Good luck. I'd loan you my 18" chain saw, but you are quite a distance away from me. Glad to see that no one was hurt. Was expecting to see some of that rain, but thankfully I live a little west of the storm track (Louisville) for it to have much influence. We are expecting less than an inch today, but eastern Kentucky is supposed to get drenched. |
"Gareee©" wrote in message ... I'm up in NC, and wwe're getting buckets of water all day, with what looks like another 2 days worth ahead, and we already had mudslides n such from the last huricanne. Kinda funny though.. our pond is still mostly green again, but when it was raining hard today, I checked up on it, and all the fish were up near the top, almost as if they were "playing" in the rain! LOL!! I'm a little concerned about overhigh water levels as well. Hope the little guys don't get washed out, and take a yard trip... You can always pump or bail some of it out. |
"Gareee©" wrote in message ... I'm up in NC, and wwe're getting buckets of water all day, with what looks like another 2 days worth ahead, and we already had mudslides n such from the last huricanne. Kinda funny though.. our pond is still mostly green again, but when it was raining hard today, I checked up on it, and all the fish were up near the top, almost as if they were "playing" in the rain! LOL!! I'm a little concerned about overhigh water levels as well. Hope the little guys don't get washed out, and take a yard trip... You can always pump or bail some of it out. |
no.. usually means they are distressed. check the pH ASAP. warm rain has lots of
dissolved CO2 but lower levels of oxygen. Ingrid "Gareee©" wrote: Kinda funny though.. our pond is still mostly green again, but when it was raining hard today, I checked up on it, and all the fish were up near the top, almost as if they were "playing" in the rain! LOL!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
no.. usually means they are distressed. check the pH ASAP. warm rain has lots of
dissolved CO2 but lower levels of oxygen. Ingrid "Gareee©" wrote: Kinda funny though.. our pond is still mostly green again, but when it was raining hard today, I checked up on it, and all the fish were up near the top, almost as if they were "playing" in the rain! LOL!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 18:51:16 -0700, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote: ===Glad you made it, and apparently have power (generator?) Sorry about the ===trees, pump and mess. ~ jan === snip Yep we have been on generator power since 1030 the eve of Ivan coming ashore. Don't expect the power on in this area for 10 day or more according to power company as a large transmission line was severely damaged and some towers are gonna need replacing. We won;t get water until power is restored. (but I have a pond full, and now have a reasopn to swim with my koi!) I pulled my fish out of the half barrel today so its one less thing to fool with in regards to feeding and powering up, and put them in the large enclosure with the other fish, so they should be just fine Oh well time to go back and start cleaning up this mess........ Only thing we have that never went out is the phone...... Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 18:51:16 -0700, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote: ===Glad you made it, and apparently have power (generator?) Sorry about the ===trees, pump and mess. ~ jan === snip Yep we have been on generator power since 1030 the eve of Ivan coming ashore. Don't expect the power on in this area for 10 day or more according to power company as a large transmission line was severely damaged and some towers are gonna need replacing. We won;t get water until power is restored. (but I have a pond full, and now have a reasopn to swim with my koi!) I pulled my fish out of the half barrel today so its one less thing to fool with in regards to feeding and powering up, and put them in the large enclosure with the other fish, so they should be just fine Oh well time to go back and start cleaning up this mess........ Only thing we have that never went out is the phone...... Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:50:03 -0400, "George"
wrote: snip === ===Yipes! I can't imagine how you managed to not have more damage to your pond. ===Good luck. I'd loan you my 18" chain saw, but you are quite a distance away ===from me. Glad to see that no one was hurt. Was expecting to see some of that ===rain, but thankfully I live a little west of the storm track (Louisville) for it ===to have much influence. We are expecting less than an inch today, but eastern ===Kentucky is supposed to get drenched. === I have a natural pond approx 1 acre in size with an enclosure so other than debri etc getting in thr pond or it filling to high so when the stream comes up and overflows back into the pond, and have it possibly get higher than my enclosures top, its pretty well troublefree and safe.......... Thanks for the offer onthe chainsaw, but I have quite a few as I used to do tree work on the side, and just view this cleanup and removing all my trees that have been damaged as a typical job without pay, heck I am retired and in no hurry, so it will give me something to do.......got my holes in the roof patched until insurance adjuster checks it out, so other than replacing some fence and cleaningup and cutting trees, life is pretty well back to normal routine around here....... Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:50:03 -0400, "George"
wrote: snip === ===Yipes! I can't imagine how you managed to not have more damage to your pond. ===Good luck. I'd loan you my 18" chain saw, but you are quite a distance away ===from me. Glad to see that no one was hurt. Was expecting to see some of that ===rain, but thankfully I live a little west of the storm track (Louisville) for it ===to have much influence. We are expecting less than an inch today, but eastern ===Kentucky is supposed to get drenched. === I have a natural pond approx 1 acre in size with an enclosure so other than debri etc getting in thr pond or it filling to high so when the stream comes up and overflows back into the pond, and have it possibly get higher than my enclosures top, its pretty well troublefree and safe.......... Thanks for the offer onthe chainsaw, but I have quite a few as I used to do tree work on the side, and just view this cleanup and removing all my trees that have been damaged as a typical job without pay, heck I am retired and in no hurry, so it will give me something to do.......got my holes in the roof patched until insurance adjuster checks it out, so other than replacing some fence and cleaningup and cutting trees, life is pretty well back to normal routine around here....... Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
Glad to see people still 'here'. Makes living with volcanoes seem down right tame! kathy :-) algae primer http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html |
When Frances came through here one of my water garden club members pond is
near a large pond, small lake. The lake level rose about 12 feet, putting his pond under about 4 feet of water. His koi apparently went to the bottom and hunkered down. When the lake receded, the fish were, as near as he can tell, all still in the small koi pond. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/index.html "Gareee©" wrote in message ... I'm up in NC, and wwe're getting buckets of water all day, with what looks like another 2 days worth ahead, and we already had mudslides n such from the last huricanne. Kinda funny though.. our pond is still mostly green again, but when it was raining hard today, I checked up on it, and all the fish were up near the top, almost as if they were "playing" in the rain! LOL!! I'm a little concerned about overhigh water levels as well. Hope the little guys don't get washed out, and take a yard trip... -- Gareee© (Gareee "at" Charter "dot" net) Homepage: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine.../mainframe.htm Custom Figures, Wallpapers and more! |
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:22:27 GMT, "RichToyBox"
wrote: ===When Frances came through here one of my water garden club members pond is ===near a large pond, small lake. The lake level rose about 12 feet, putting ===his pond under about 4 feet of water. His koi apparently went to the bottom ===and hunkered down. When the lake receded, the fish were, as near as he can ===tell, all still in the small koi pond. That is one reason I have an over abundance of KOI in the enclosure now, as well as bream abnd bass in the main section of the pond. The stream came up and overfloowed into the pond by about 2 feet one time. Weeks and months went by and not a sign of any fish......Figured they all went out with the current flow and high water. So we restocked it, only to find 99% of all the fish were still in the pond come the next year when we had a vast difference in sizes of fish and the breed of bream and bass being different. We stocked different species both times and now have two species of each kind...... Same thing when I had a tree crunch my KOI enclosure one time. Weeks went by and koi never again showed themselves in the enclosure. We did see goldfish and koi outside the enclosure, so we assumed when the hardware cloth that was on it then got crunched they wam out, so we rebuilt it and put new koi in the enclosure. I also found out I had a nice bass inside the enclosure after I fixed it, and we assumed it probably ate some koi and GF as well, which he probably did not.Now its loaded with koi and I probably only lost about 4 when they escaped as thats all I have managed to catch with a cast net and return to the enclosure. I have not seen any more anywhere outside the enclosure. One of the funniest thiengs I have seen was yesterday while the wife and I was watching the action outside during the buildup of the storm. We elected to let the goats ride it out, outside so they would not get hurt in the barn if the trees around it fell, and we also let our one duck and goose outside. Animals can fare far better off on their own outside than they can in a wooden barn surounded by trees. I had parked our tractors and other equipment out by the edge of the pond (only area I could that was least probability of a tree falling, and these pieces of equipment would most likely not get blown away. Those goats were on their knees with their butts up in the air and heads under the open side of a bush hog staying out of the weather. The pond had waves and white caps o it, and when y ou would get a good gust the wind would lift a sheet of water off the pond and it would hit the house just like surf at the ocean. Really neat looking. But the duck and goose were having a ball in the rain and wind, until the duck tried to fly off the bank and in to the pond and the wind caught him and flipped him on his back in mid air and sent him into a sort of loop, all the while he was frantically beating his wings. He hit the water on the pond backwards and upside down. The goose had walked down to the pond and then figured it was just to rough out in that open area, and as hard as it tried to walk back out it kept getting blown backwards into the water........both the duck and goose eventually gave up, and they exited the pond on the opposite side, but had one heck of a time trying to walk around the poond and get back to the other side. The duck never again tried to fly, and stayed grounded for the duration of the storm. Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:22:27 GMT, "RichToyBox"
wrote: ===When Frances came through here one of my water garden club members pond is ===near a large pond, small lake. The lake level rose about 12 feet, putting ===his pond under about 4 feet of water. His koi apparently went to the bottom ===and hunkered down. When the lake receded, the fish were, as near as he can ===tell, all still in the small koi pond. That is one reason I have an over abundance of KOI in the enclosure now, as well as bream abnd bass in the main section of the pond. The stream came up and overfloowed into the pond by about 2 feet one time. Weeks and months went by and not a sign of any fish......Figured they all went out with the current flow and high water. So we restocked it, only to find 99% of all the fish were still in the pond come the next year when we had a vast difference in sizes of fish and the breed of bream and bass being different. We stocked different species both times and now have two species of each kind...... Same thing when I had a tree crunch my KOI enclosure one time. Weeks went by and koi never again showed themselves in the enclosure. We did see goldfish and koi outside the enclosure, so we assumed when the hardware cloth that was on it then got crunched they wam out, so we rebuilt it and put new koi in the enclosure. I also found out I had a nice bass inside the enclosure after I fixed it, and we assumed it probably ate some koi and GF as well, which he probably did not.Now its loaded with koi and I probably only lost about 4 when they escaped as thats all I have managed to catch with a cast net and return to the enclosure. I have not seen any more anywhere outside the enclosure. One of the funniest thiengs I have seen was yesterday while the wife and I was watching the action outside during the buildup of the storm. We elected to let the goats ride it out, outside so they would not get hurt in the barn if the trees around it fell, and we also let our one duck and goose outside. Animals can fare far better off on their own outside than they can in a wooden barn surounded by trees. I had parked our tractors and other equipment out by the edge of the pond (only area I could that was least probability of a tree falling, and these pieces of equipment would most likely not get blown away. Those goats were on their knees with their butts up in the air and heads under the open side of a bush hog staying out of the weather. The pond had waves and white caps o it, and when y ou would get a good gust the wind would lift a sheet of water off the pond and it would hit the house just like surf at the ocean. Really neat looking. But the duck and goose were having a ball in the rain and wind, until the duck tried to fly off the bank and in to the pond and the wind caught him and flipped him on his back in mid air and sent him into a sort of loop, all the while he was frantically beating his wings. He hit the water on the pond backwards and upside down. The goose had walked down to the pond and then figured it was just to rough out in that open area, and as hard as it tried to walk back out it kept getting blown backwards into the water........both the duck and goose eventually gave up, and they exited the pond on the opposite side, but had one heck of a time trying to walk around the poond and get back to the other side. The duck never again tried to fly, and stayed grounded for the duration of the storm. Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
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"Roy" wrote in message ... On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:50:03 -0400, "George" wrote: snip === ===Yipes! I can't imagine how you managed to not have more damage to your pond. ===Good luck. I'd loan you my 18" chain saw, but you are quite a distance away ===from me. Glad to see that no one was hurt. Was expecting to see some of that ===rain, but thankfully I live a little west of the storm track (Louisville) for it ===to have much influence. We are expecting less than an inch today, but eastern ===Kentucky is supposed to get drenched. === I have a natural pond approx 1 acre in size with an enclosure so other than debri etc getting in thr pond or it filling to high so when the stream comes up and overflows back into the pond, and have it possibly get higher than my enclosures top, its pretty well troublefree and safe.......... Thanks for the offer onthe chainsaw, but I have quite a few as I used to do tree work on the side, and just view this cleanup and removing all my trees that have been damaged as a typical job without pay, heck I am retired and in no hurry, so it will give me something to do.......got my holes in the roof patched until insurance adjuster checks it out, so other than replacing some fence and cleaningup and cutting trees, life is pretty well back to normal routine around here....... Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. That's good to hear. I looked at your pond site, and I must say that I have a really bad case of pond envy. |
"Roy" wrote in message ... On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:50:03 -0400, "George" wrote: snip === ===Yipes! I can't imagine how you managed to not have more damage to your pond. ===Good luck. I'd loan you my 18" chain saw, but you are quite a distance away ===from me. Glad to see that no one was hurt. Was expecting to see some of that ===rain, but thankfully I live a little west of the storm track (Louisville) for it ===to have much influence. We are expecting less than an inch today, but eastern ===Kentucky is supposed to get drenched. === I have a natural pond approx 1 acre in size with an enclosure so other than debri etc getting in thr pond or it filling to high so when the stream comes up and overflows back into the pond, and have it possibly get higher than my enclosures top, its pretty well troublefree and safe.......... Thanks for the offer onthe chainsaw, but I have quite a few as I used to do tree work on the side, and just view this cleanup and removing all my trees that have been damaged as a typical job without pay, heck I am retired and in no hurry, so it will give me something to do.......got my holes in the roof patched until insurance adjuster checks it out, so other than replacing some fence and cleaningup and cutting trees, life is pretty well back to normal routine around here....... Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. That's good to hear. I looked at your pond site, and I must say that I have a really bad case of pond envy. |
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