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Bill Stock 22-10-2004 06:26 PM

Pond creatures
 
I brought some pond plants inside to start my planted aquarium. They're
starting to look pretty good, but I've just started to notice some critters
on the Hornwort. This will eventually be a community tank and GF vegetable
farm. So I have to kill off all the critters.

They are small brown balls (sort of curled up) where the leaves of the plant
meet the stem of the plant. What are these, snails?

Pinging the Snail Queen! :)

TIA




Ka30P 22-10-2004 07:16 PM

Bill wrote
They are small brown balls (sort of curled up) where the leaves of the plant
meet the stem of the plant. What are these, snails?


I do believe they are snail poop.
You can do the poor man's microscope.
Use a white dish, a maginifying glass and a flashlight to get a real good look
at it, them.


kathy :-)
3000 gallon pond
800 gallon frog bog
home of the watergardening labradors
zone 7 SE WA state

Ka30P 22-10-2004 07:16 PM

Bill wrote
They are small brown balls (sort of curled up) where the leaves of the plant
meet the stem of the plant. What are these, snails?


I do believe they are snail poop.
You can do the poor man's microscope.
Use a white dish, a maginifying glass and a flashlight to get a real good look
at it, them.


kathy :-)
3000 gallon pond
800 gallon frog bog
home of the watergardening labradors
zone 7 SE WA state

Bill Stock 23-10-2004 01:03 AM


"Ka30P" wrote in message
...
Bill wrote
They are small brown balls (sort of curled up) where the leaves of the

plant
meet the stem of the plant. What are these, snails?


I do believe they are snail poop.
You can do the poor man's microscope.
Use a white dish, a maginifying glass and a flashlight to get a real good

look
at it, them.


Snail Turds! :)

Funnny, I don't recall seeing them before. I don't think I have snails?

How big should these things be Kathy? They're range in size from the tip of
a pencil to the size of a BB.

Thanks.






Bill Stock 23-10-2004 01:03 AM


"Ka30P" wrote in message
...
Bill wrote
They are small brown balls (sort of curled up) where the leaves of the

plant
meet the stem of the plant. What are these, snails?


I do believe they are snail poop.
You can do the poor man's microscope.
Use a white dish, a maginifying glass and a flashlight to get a real good

look
at it, them.


Snail Turds! :)

Funnny, I don't recall seeing them before. I don't think I have snails?

How big should these things be Kathy? They're range in size from the tip of
a pencil to the size of a BB.

Thanks.






Ka30P 23-10-2004 01:25 AM


Hmmm, well if you don't have snails....
Do you have access to a magnifying glass and flashlight? Let's get a good luck
at these.
I think the thing you should be worried about is if these things eat plants
since I think your OP said you were going to grow the plants indoors over the
winter?
There are many pond critters that just eat detritus.
Anyway if you can isolate a couple of these things with some plant matter and
then watch to see what they do...
Let us know!
(This is one of my favorite things to do, bring in odd and strange things and
see what happens!)


kathy :-)
3000 gallon pond
800 gallon frog bog
home of the watergardening labradors
zone 7 SE WA state

Ka30P 23-10-2004 01:25 AM


Hmmm, well if you don't have snails....
Do you have access to a magnifying glass and flashlight? Let's get a good luck
at these.
I think the thing you should be worried about is if these things eat plants
since I think your OP said you were going to grow the plants indoors over the
winter?
There are many pond critters that just eat detritus.
Anyway if you can isolate a couple of these things with some plant matter and
then watch to see what they do...
Let us know!
(This is one of my favorite things to do, bring in odd and strange things and
see what happens!)


kathy :-)
3000 gallon pond
800 gallon frog bog
home of the watergardening labradors
zone 7 SE WA state

Bill Stock 23-10-2004 04:29 AM


"Ka30P" wrote in message
...

Hmmm, well if you don't have snails....
Do you have access to a magnifying glass and flashlight? Let's get a good

luck
at these.
I think the thing you should be worried about is if these things eat

plants
since I think your OP said you were going to grow the plants indoors over

the
winter?
There are many pond critters that just eat detritus.
Anyway if you can isolate a couple of these things with some plant matter

and
then watch to see what they do...
Let us know!
(This is one of my favorite things to do, bring in odd and strange things

and
see what happens!)


I think they might be fly larvae.

They've got two body parts. a very small head and a larger body. Surrounded
by a bubble of oxygen. I can actually see them moving along the stems of the
Hornwort if I wait long enough.




Ka30P 23-10-2004 04:50 AM

Bill wrote I think they might be fly larvae.
They've got two body parts. a very small head and a larger body. Surrounded
by a bubble of oxygen. I can actually see them moving along the stems of the
Hornwort if I wait long enough


This reminds me of some caddis fly larva that I think I had in my filter a
couple of years ago. They don't eat plants but they might hatch indoors with
the warmer temperatures. If they are hard to round up you could cover the
aquarium (or container) with a double layer of netting to keep them from flying
around the house.




kathy :-)
3000 gallon pond
800 gallon frog bog
home of the watergardening labradors
zone 7 SE WA state

Benign Vanilla 23-10-2004 02:40 PM


"Ka30P" wrote in message
...
Bill wrote I think they might be fly larvae.
They've got two body parts. a very small head and a larger body.

Surrounded
by a bubble of oxygen. I can actually see them moving along the stems of

the
Hornwort if I wait long enough


This reminds me of some caddis fly larva that I think I had in my filter a
couple of years ago. They don't eat plants but they might hatch indoors

with
the warmer temperatures. If they are hard to round up you could cover the
aquarium (or container) with a double layer of netting to keep them from

flying
around the house.


We had a few damsel flies flitting around the house for the winter last
year. LOL.

BV.



Benign Vanilla 23-10-2004 02:40 PM


"Ka30P" wrote in message
...
Bill wrote I think they might be fly larvae.
They've got two body parts. a very small head and a larger body.

Surrounded
by a bubble of oxygen. I can actually see them moving along the stems of

the
Hornwort if I wait long enough


This reminds me of some caddis fly larva that I think I had in my filter a
couple of years ago. They don't eat plants but they might hatch indoors

with
the warmer temperatures. If they are hard to round up you could cover the
aquarium (or container) with a double layer of netting to keep them from

flying
around the house.


We had a few damsel flies flitting around the house for the winter last
year. LOL.

BV.



Nedra 23-10-2004 11:00 PM

Oh How neat, BV! I wish had some pretty damsel flies in the house :(

Nedra
"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...

"Ka30P" wrote in message
...
Bill wrote I think they might be fly larvae.
They've got two body parts. a very small head and a larger body.

Surrounded
by a bubble of oxygen. I can actually see them moving along the stems

of
the
Hornwort if I wait long enough


This reminds me of some caddis fly larva that I think I had in my filter

a
couple of years ago. They don't eat plants but they might hatch indoors

with
the warmer temperatures. If they are hard to round up you could cover

the
aquarium (or container) with a double layer of netting to keep them from

flying
around the house.


We had a few damsel flies flitting around the house for the winter last
year. LOL.

BV.




Bill Stock 23-10-2004 11:50 PM


"Ka30P" wrote in message
...

Hmmm, well if you don't have snails....


[snip]

Well I've got snails NOW, hundreds of snails.

How big do these things get?

They've got a translucent bronze shell, white head and dark brown rear. The
biggest is about 3/16" long (so far).

Time to find a community fish who likes snails.




Bill Stock 23-10-2004 11:50 PM


"Ka30P" wrote in message
...

Hmmm, well if you don't have snails....


[snip]

Well I've got snails NOW, hundreds of snails.

How big do these things get?

They've got a translucent bronze shell, white head and dark brown rear. The
biggest is about 3/16" long (so far).

Time to find a community fish who likes snails.




Ka30P 24-10-2004 12:29 AM

Bill wrote How big do these things (snails) get?

Depends on the snail and I'm not very good at telling which kind are which.

Robyn has a good snail page
http://www.fishpondinfo.com/snail.htm

In my pond koi love snails.



kathy :-)
3000 gallon pond
800 gallon frog bog
home of the watergardening labradors
zone 7 SE WA state


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