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Tak Sze 28-10-2004 11:16 PM

pond lifted due to rain
 
I just recently built a 2000 gallon pond with concrete over liner. The
pond has not been filled with water yet. However, the whole pond is
lifted a few inches due to recent rain. Actually I am not sure if the
pond is lifted or the soil on the side collapsed. If it is lifted by
the water, I don't know if the sand I put under the liner all
collapsed to the bottom or not. I am going to wait for a few days to
see if the pond is going to come back down when the ground water goes
away. Unfortunately, we have clay soil here, and the water may not go
away for a while. Does anyone have any experience with this? What
would you suggest?

- Tak

Nedra 29-10-2004 01:09 AM

My liner pond bubbled up the first spring I had it installed... 1994. I had
to wait several
weeks for the water to finally drain away. I also had to dig a trench
around the pond
to keep the heavy spring rains from doing this again. Also built up the
sides of the
pond about 7 or 8 inches with mulch. Solved the problem.

Nedra

"Tak Sze" wrote in message
om...
I just recently built a 2000 gallon pond with concrete over liner. The
pond has not been filled with water yet. However, the whole pond is
lifted a few inches due to recent rain. Actually I am not sure if the
pond is lifted or the soil on the side collapsed. If it is lifted by
the water, I don't know if the sand I put under the liner all
collapsed to the bottom or not. I am going to wait for a few days to
see if the pond is going to come back down when the ground water goes
away. Unfortunately, we have clay soil here, and the water may not go
away for a while. Does anyone have any experience with this? What
would you suggest?

- Tak



Crashj 29-10-2004 06:18 PM

On or about 28 Oct 2004 15:16:06 -0700, (Tak Sze)
wrote something like:

I just recently built a 2000 gallon pond with concrete over liner. The
pond has not been filled with water yet.


That's not a pond, that's a boat. ;-(
Hence the lift. You could have a serious structural problem as the
pond settles back into place. It will not be fully supported. I would
imagine there are gaps and pockets all around the basin under ground
level. When you do fill it there will probably be cracks at the very
least. The only way to avoid that, I think is to fill the pond now and
hope it settles into place before the water in the ground drains away.
--
Crashj
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Crashj

Crashj 29-10-2004 06:18 PM

On or about 28 Oct 2004 15:16:06 -0700, (Tak Sze)
wrote something like:

I just recently built a 2000 gallon pond with concrete over liner. The
pond has not been filled with water yet.


That's not a pond, that's a boat. ;-(
Hence the lift. You could have a serious structural problem as the
pond settles back into place. It will not be fully supported. I would
imagine there are gaps and pockets all around the basin under ground
level. When you do fill it there will probably be cracks at the very
least. The only way to avoid that, I think is to fill the pond now and
hope it settles into place before the water in the ground drains away.
--
Crashj
--
Crashj

Crashj 30-10-2004 12:31 AM

On or about Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:04:02 +0100,
wrote something like:

Have you thought of moving house?

Fireball


"Crashj" wrote in message
.. .
On or about 28 Oct 2004 15:16:06 -0700, (Tak Sze)
wrote something like:

I just recently built a 2000 gallon pond with concrete over liner. The
pond has not been filled with water yet.


That's not a pond, that's a boat. ;-(


Why would I, Crashj, want to move my house?

--
A: Because it is the opposite of how a conversation is scripted.
Q: Why is top posting so annoying?
A: Top posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet?
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Crashj

yobdab 30-10-2004 04:34 PM

Crashj wrote in message . ..
On or about 28 Oct 2004 15:16:06 -0700, (Tak Sze)
wrote something like:

I just recently built a 2000 gallon pond with concrete over liner. The
pond has not been filled with water yet.


That's not a pond, that's a boat. ;-(
Hence the lift. You could have a serious structural problem as the
pond settles back into place. It will not be fully supported. I would
imagine there are gaps and pockets all around the basin under ground
level. When you do fill it there will probably be cracks at the very
least. The only way to avoid that, I think is to fill the pond now and
hope it settles into place before the water in the ground drains away.
--
Crashj


Better fill it with water now; same thing happens with pools. When
they are empty and the water table goes up (rain) causes the lift.

Derek Broughton 01-11-2004 02:12 PM

Crashj wrote:

Oh, come on, now...

A: Because it is the opposite of how a conversation is scripted.
Q: Why is top posting so annoying?
A: Top posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet?


there are worse things than topposting. (Funny, though)
--
derek

Derek Broughton 01-11-2004 02:12 PM

Crashj wrote:

Oh, come on, now...

A: Because it is the opposite of how a conversation is scripted.
Q: Why is top posting so annoying?
A: Top posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet?


there are worse things than topposting. (Funny, though)
--
derek

Crashj 01-11-2004 02:37 PM

On or about Mon, 01 Nov 2004 10:12:23 -0400, Derek Broughton
wrote something like:

Crashj wrote:

Oh, come on, now...

A: Because it is the opposite of how a conversation is scripted.
Q: Why is top posting so annoying?
A: Top posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet?


there are worse things than topposting. (Funny, though)


Tell me about it. Ever hear of Ed Conrad? ;-)
--
Crashj

Crashj 01-11-2004 02:37 PM

On or about Mon, 01 Nov 2004 10:12:23 -0400, Derek Broughton
wrote something like:

Crashj wrote:

Oh, come on, now...

A: Because it is the opposite of how a conversation is scripted.
Q: Why is top posting so annoying?
A: Top posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet?


there are worse things than topposting. (Funny, though)


Tell me about it. Ever hear of Ed Conrad? ;-)
--
Crashj

Stephen M. Henning 01-11-2004 02:52 PM

Crashj wrote:

A: Because it is the opposite of how a conversation is scripted.
Q: Why is top posting so annoying?


A: Top posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet?


There is only one thing worse than top posting; that is not editing the
quoted material left before bottom posting. Usually a person is
responding to a single or couple points and only those points need be
left and then they can be carefully edited.

If the response does not appear in the window without scrolling, then
hit delete. Simple.

Stephen M. Henning 01-11-2004 02:52 PM

Crashj wrote:

A: Because it is the opposite of how a conversation is scripted.
Q: Why is top posting so annoying?


A: Top posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet?


There is only one thing worse than top posting; that is not editing the
quoted material left before bottom posting. Usually a person is
responding to a single or couple points and only those points need be
left and then they can be carefully edited.

If the response does not appear in the window without scrolling, then
hit delete. Simple.

Derek Broughton 01-11-2004 03:27 PM

Crashj wrote:

On or about Mon, 01 Nov 2004 10:12:23 -0400, Derek Broughton
wrote something like:


there are worse things than topposting. (Funny, though)


Tell me about it. Ever hear of Ed Conrad? ;-)


LOL. I hadn't, but Google had. Now I wish I still hadn't. How do you use
the word "pseudoscience" as a _positive_ self-descriptive term?
--
derek

Nedra 01-11-2004 04:13 PM

The irritating thing about NOT top posting is that this is supposed to be a
conversation. I know of no one in a conversation who repeats the people
who've just spoken ... that is idiotic.... to me at least.
I hit delete if the person has not had presence of mind
to edit the previous speakers..... even then Bottom Posting is an irritant -
I don't give a hoot what usenet says.

Nedrda in Missouri

"Stephen M. Henning" wrote in message
...
Crashj wrote:

A: Because it is the opposite of how a conversation is scripted.
Q: Why is top posting so annoying?


A: Top posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet?


There is only one thing worse than top posting; that is not editing the
quoted material left before bottom posting. Usually a person is
responding to a single or couple points and only those points need be
left and then they can be carefully edited.

If the response does not appear in the window without scrolling, then
hit delete. Simple.



Nedra 01-11-2004 04:13 PM

The irritating thing about NOT top posting is that this is supposed to be a
conversation. I know of no one in a conversation who repeats the people
who've just spoken ... that is idiotic.... to me at least.
I hit delete if the person has not had presence of mind
to edit the previous speakers..... even then Bottom Posting is an irritant -
I don't give a hoot what usenet says.

Nedrda in Missouri

"Stephen M. Henning" wrote in message
...
Crashj wrote:

A: Because it is the opposite of how a conversation is scripted.
Q: Why is top posting so annoying?


A: Top posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet?


There is only one thing worse than top posting; that is not editing the
quoted material left before bottom posting. Usually a person is
responding to a single or couple points and only those points need be
left and then they can be carefully edited.

If the response does not appear in the window without scrolling, then
hit delete. Simple.




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