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John... 21-11-2004 11:24 AM

Use aquarium heater in pond?
 
Can I do this? got a couple of spare 100Watt heaters
that I used in my indoor aquariums.
Its winter here in the UK and I'm a bit worried about my
pond fish.got 5 golden orfe's and 3 regular goldfish in it.
The pond is approx 40 gallons with a pump/filter setup,
and is above ground level.
Thanks.

John




Phisherman 21-11-2004 12:40 PM

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:24:13 -0000, "John..." wrote:

Can I do this? got a couple of spare 100Watt heaters
that I used in my indoor aquariums.
Its winter here in the UK and I'm a bit worried about my
pond fish.got 5 golden orfe's and 3 regular goldfish in it.
The pond is approx 40 gallons with a pump/filter setup,
and is above ground level.
Thanks.

John



The biggest concern is the pond freezing solid. I've also read that
breaking the surface ice abruptly could kill fish. I'm not sure if
your aquarium heaters can be set for 35 degrees. I'd think it would
be better to move the fish inside and drain the pond for the winter.

Gareee© 21-11-2004 02:19 PM


"Phisherman" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:24:13 -0000, "John..." wrote:

Can I do this? got a couple of spare 100Watt heaters
that I used in my indoor aquariums.
Its winter here in the UK and I'm a bit worried about my
pond fish.got 5 golden orfe's and 3 regular goldfish in it.
The pond is approx 40 gallons with a pump/filter setup,
and is above ground level.


The general recommendataion here is to make sure your pond does not freeze
over.. add a aquarium bubblerto keep a hole in the ice that will form on
top.

Check locally with others, to see how thick the ice will form as well.

If it's just an inch or two, the bubbler would do the trick, I'd think.

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Gareee© 21-11-2004 02:19 PM


"Phisherman" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:24:13 -0000, "John..." wrote:

Can I do this? got a couple of spare 100Watt heaters
that I used in my indoor aquariums.
Its winter here in the UK and I'm a bit worried about my
pond fish.got 5 golden orfe's and 3 regular goldfish in it.
The pond is approx 40 gallons with a pump/filter setup,
and is above ground level.


The general recommendataion here is to make sure your pond does not freeze
over.. add a aquarium bubblerto keep a hole in the ice that will form on
top.

Check locally with others, to see how thick the ice will form as well.

If it's just an inch or two, the bubbler would do the trick, I'd think.

Gareee© (Gareee "at" Charter "dot" net)
Homepage:
http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine.../mainframe.htm
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Anne Lurie 21-11-2004 03:35 PM

Are the aquarium heaters rated (electrically) for use outdoors?

Anne


"John..." wrote in message
...
Can I do this? got a couple of spare 100Watt heaters
that I used in my indoor aquariums.
Its winter here in the UK and I'm a bit worried about my
pond fish.got 5 golden orfe's and 3 regular goldfish in it.
The pond is approx 40 gallons with a pump/filter setup,
and is above ground level.
Thanks.

John






Granny Grump 21-11-2004 04:45 PM


Can I do this? got a couple of spare 100Watt heaters
that I used in my indoor aquariums.
Its winter here in the UK and I'm a bit worried about my
pond fish.got 5 golden orfe's and 3 regular goldfish in it.
The pond is approx 40 gallons with a pump/filter setup,
and is above ground level.


It would be cheaper I think to just buy a stock tank heater and use
that, instead of the heaters you are speaking of.

A floating stock tank heater can be bought at any farm store, and it
is thermostatically controlled.

John... 21-11-2004 04:47 PM


"Anne Lurie" wrote in message
...
Are the aquarium heaters rated (electrically) for use outdoors?

Anne


Well,they are fully submersible.I think the main concern
would be the plug and wiring.If I could seal the plug it
might be ok.

John




~ Windsong ~ 21-11-2004 09:44 PM


"John..." wrote in message
...
Can I do this? got a couple of spare 100Watt heaters
that I used in my indoor aquariums.
Its winter here in the UK and I'm a bit worried about my
pond fish.got 5 golden orfe's and 3 regular goldfish in it.
The pond is approx 40 gallons with a pump/filter setup,
and is above ground level.
Thanks.

=====================
Yes. I use a piece of Styrofoam with a hole cut in the middle and float the
heaters in the small 150 gallon kiddy pools I have behind the house.
They're set to come on to keep a small opening in any ice that may form. A
low setting. The fish can be seen under these heaters for most of the
winter.
--
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[email protected] 22-11-2004 06:12 PM

it is also an energy hog. a 100 watt aquarium heater under the bubbler really kicks
ass as far as keeping the ice out. for the plug get thee to a hardware store, get
into the automotive area and look for dielectric grease. fill up the holes, plug it
in and it will be waterproof. of course, plug into a circuit with a circuit
breaker!! Ingrid

Granny Grump wrote:


Can I do this? got a couple of spare 100Watt heaters
that I used in my indoor aquariums.
Its winter here in the UK and I'm a bit worried about my
pond fish.got 5 golden orfe's and 3 regular goldfish in it.
The pond is approx 40 gallons with a pump/filter setup,
and is above ground level.


It would be cheaper I think to just buy a stock tank heater and use
that, instead of the heaters you are speaking of.

A floating stock tank heater can be bought at any farm store, and it
is thermostatically controlled.




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Bill Stock 23-11-2004 01:23 AM


wrote in message
...
it is also an energy hog. a 100 watt aquarium heater under the bubbler

really kicks
ass as far as keeping the ice out. for the plug get thee to a hardware

store, get
into the automotive area and look for dielectric grease. fill up the

holes, plug it
in and it will be waterproof. of course, plug into a circuit with a

circuit
breaker!! Ingrid


snip

Ingrid,

What did you use for a guard on your titanium heater? My brand did not have
a guard available, so I'll have to cobble something together.

The pond is down to 43F now, so it will soon be time to throw in the heater.
Although I'm still trying to decide on a suitable temperature range. I was
considering 35F - 39F.




[email protected] 23-11-2004 03:16 PM

mine came with a guard. I really dont know what to use. but if it is hanging free
then I dont suppose it really is a problem. mine doesnt go lower than 65oF or so,
and I am looking to keep my fish at or above 55oF. Ingrid

"Bill Stock" wrote:
What did you use for a guard on your titanium heater? My brand did not have
a guard available, so I'll have to cobble something together.

The pond is down to 43F now, so it will soon be time to throw in the heater.
Although I'm still trying to decide on a suitable temperature range. I was
considering 35F - 39F.





~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[email protected] 23-11-2004 03:16 PM

mine came with a guard. I really dont know what to use. but if it is hanging free
then I dont suppose it really is a problem. mine doesnt go lower than 65oF or so,
and I am looking to keep my fish at or above 55oF. Ingrid

"Bill Stock" wrote:
What did you use for a guard on your titanium heater? My brand did not have
a guard available, so I'll have to cobble something together.

The pond is down to 43F now, so it will soon be time to throw in the heater.
Although I'm still trying to decide on a suitable temperature range. I was
considering 35F - 39F.





~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

Crashj 28-11-2004 01:27 AM

On or about Thu, 25 Nov 2004 14:51:37 GMT, wrote
something like:

actually plugged into a GFI circuit nothing will happen. there is no reason for the
glass to break, it isnt fine china. Ingrid

Crashj wrote:

On or about Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:24:13 -0000, "John..."
wrote something like:

Can I do this? got a couple of spare 100Watt heaters
that I used in my indoor aquariums.
Its winter here in the UK


Very unsafe. If the glass breaks you will have high voltage in the
pond. This would be a Bad Thing.


Tell it it Bond - he kills bad guys that way all the time, only he
uses a radio, usually.
"Bond; James Bond"
--
Crashj


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