Russian sends supplies up to space station
isnt it wonderful that our cooperation with Russian means nobody gets stranded. And
they still have a soyuz capsule up there to get back home. Ingrid |
Russian sends supplies up to space station
I kept thinking about that all day. The alternative would have made a good Bruce Willis movie... k30a |
Russian sends supplies up to space station
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... isnt it wonderful that our cooperation with Russian means nobody gets stranded. And they still have a soyuz capsule up there to get back home. Ingrid Hey, we still have three shuttles...no one is stranded yet! BV. |
Russian sends supplies up to space station
Just for grins and giggles, the Russian supply ship was scheduled months
ago: they don't have the ability to put one up at the drop of a hat any more than we do. It was just good timing that it went up when it did. I (personally speaking) feel that the space program is something that we need. I understand the necessity to find out the "whys" of an accident so that (hopefully) it can be avoided in the future, but we need to continue as rapidly as possible, no more 3 year delays (like they did with Challenger). I was standing on the roof at work to watch the Challenger launch, and was horrified to see it blow up like it did. But those people died doing what they loved, and that has to be better than a lot of other ways to die. Lee wrote in message ... isnt it wonderful that our cooperation with Russian means nobody gets stranded. And they still have a soyuz capsule up there to get back home. Ingrid |
Russian sends supplies up to space station
you would make the decision to send somebody up there with one before they knew what
happened to Columbia and bring em back? really? INgrid "BenignVanilla" wrote: wrote in message ... isnt it wonderful that our cooperation with Russian means nobody gets stranded. And they still have a soyuz capsule up there to get back home. Ingrid Hey, we still have three shuttles...no one is stranded yet! BV. |
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... you would make the decision to send somebody up there with one before they knew what happened to Columbia and bring em back? really? INgrid snip Well, my point was one more of patriotic pride, with a touch of sparkle in the eye of a shuttle fan. I was not taking issue with you. Hope it didn't come across as such. But sure, I would make that decision. Before I let a crew die in space, I would take every possible action I could including launching another shuttle. The space program has been highly successful, when you consider all of the factors. I would not want to risk the lives of the people on board the ISS while we figure out what happened down here. Columbia was a tragedy, don't get me wrong. It chokes me up to think about it, but I think it would be worse to tell the people in space, "sorry we're not coming to get you." On a side note, some of the reports I have been hearing are beginning to point more and more to the insulation that impacted the port wing on take off. From what I have heard a temperature increase of 60 degrees over 5 minutes occured in that are of the vehicle. Moments later the sensors in that area stopped sending telemetry. My gut tells me, NASA is now quite aware of the cause, but are taking the appropriate steps before making an announcement. Pure conjecture, I admit. Either way, these vehicles have a long record of safety, and reliability. To not launch again, would be mistake. I'd also add, that to launch again and NOT expect another disaster would also be ignorant. Anytime, you are putting people on a rocket and lighting a match under it, you are playing with danger, and will eventually lose. It's part of the space game. NASA built the shuttles to be a "shuttle" into space, a quick turn around. A look at what we can do. Space is no longer the final frontier. *chuckle* Unfortunately, their marketing has worked too well. We now consider space travel, at least to low earth orbit, to be as simple as an airplane ride. We take it for granted, IMHO. The fact that this vehicle could enter the atmosphere again and again without a problem and land without power. THAT is amazing. The fact that we have only lost 2...even more amazing to me. My heart goes out to the families and all involved. Nothing I said above is meant to be provacative, and I apologize now if it seems to be ore offends anyone in anyway. That was not my intent. BV. |
Russian sends supplies up to space station
you do know they were alive when they hit the water and sank, died trapped in the
debris, right? Ingrid "Lee Brouillet" wrote: no more 3 year delays (like they did with Challenger). I was standing on the roof at work to watch the Challenger launch, and was horrified to see it blow up like it did. But those people died doing what they loved, and that has to be better than a lot of other ways to die. Lee |
Russian sends supplies up to space station
today I watched the entire briefing to the press by the head of NASA. He said the
insulation could not have damaged anything to that extent. they have run scenarios where quite a few of the tiles were damaged or gone and none lead to catastrophic breakup. size x density x velocity = momentum hitting the tiles just wont do that kind of damage. He said the leading edge of the wing was 2000 degrees and the 30-60o increase didnt amount to anything that would lead to catastrophic breakup. He is saying they still dont have the "missing link". Ingrid "BenignVanilla" wrote: On a side note, some of the reports I have been hearing are beginning to point more and more to the insulation that impacted the port wing on take off. From what I have heard a temperature increase of 60 degrees over 5 minutes occured in that are of the vehicle. Moments later the sensors in that area stopped sending telemetry. My gut tells me, NASA is now quite aware of the cause, but are taking the appropriate steps before making an announcement. |
Russian sends supplies up to space station
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... today I watched the entire briefing to the press by the head of NASA. He said the insulation could not have damaged anything to that extent. they have run scenarios where quite a few of the tiles were damaged or gone and none lead to catastrophic breakup. size x density x velocity = momentum hitting the tiles just wont do that kind of damage. He said the leading edge of the wing was 2000 degrees and the 30-60o increase didnt amount to anything that would lead to catastrophic breakup. He is saying they still dont have the "missing link". Ingrid "BenignVanilla" wrote: On a side note, some of the reports I have been hearing are beginning to point more and more to the insulation that impacted the port wing on take off. From what I have heard a temperature increase of 60 degrees over 5 minutes occured in that are of the vehicle. Moments later the sensors in that area stopped sending telemetry. My gut tells me, NASA is now quite aware of the cause, but are taking the appropriate steps before making an announcement. You are correct. I heard the same report which was 180 degrees from the report I had heard around lunch time. So much for conjecture. I stand corrected. BV. |
Russian sends supplies up to space station
Ingrid, everyone has to die of something: you don't get out of life alive.
Personally, I hope I die doing (or because of) something I enjoyed, not violently at the hands of some villian, microscopic or otherwise. I said then - and repeat now - that if I could, I'd go up on the shuttle this afternoon: what a GLORIOUS adventure! Lee wrote in message ... you do know they were alive when they hit the water and sank, died trapped in the debris, right? Ingrid "Lee Brouillet" wrote: no more 3 year delays (like they did with Challenger). I was standing on the roof at work to watch the Challenger launch, and was horrified to see it blow up like it did. But those people died doing what they loved, and that has to be better than a lot of other ways to die. Lee |
Russian sends supplies up to space station
wrote in message ... you do know they were alive when they hit the water and sank, died trapped in the debris, right? Ingrid "Lee Brouillet" wrote: no more 3 year delays (like they did with Challenger). I was standing on the roof at work to watch the Challenger launch, and was horrified to see it blow up like it did. But those people died doing what they loved, and that has to be better than a lot of other ways to die. Lee Alive...but more then likely unconscious. The cabin was not intact when they found it, and the commissions that studied the accident and the bodies concluded that 1 or more of the crew members were alive upon impact, but there was no evidence that they were conscious. At the altitude and speed at which the Challenger was traveling a person would have passed out within a few seconds of decompression. Thankfully...none of them knew they drowned. BV. |
Russian sends supplies up to space station
"Lee Brouillet" wrote in message
... Ingrid, everyone has to die of something: you don't get out of life alive. Personally, I hope I die doing (or because of) something I enjoyed, not violently at the hands of some villian, microscopic or otherwise. I said then - and repeat now - that if I could, I'd go up on the shuttle this afternoon: what a GLORIOUS adventure! I'd sit right next to you. BV. |
Russian sends supplies up to space station
"Lee Brouillet" wrote in message
... Ingrid, everyone has to die of something: you don't get out of life alive. Personally, I hope I die doing (or because of) something I enjoyed, not violently at the hands of some villian, microscopic or otherwise. I said then - and repeat now - that if I could, I'd go up on the shuttle this afternoon: what a GLORIOUS adventure! I'd sit right next to you. BV. |
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