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How does a homeowner find a dam inspector in NJ?
Where do I find a private property dam inspector in NJ?
There is land I'm interested in purchasing near Morristown New Jersey which has a tiny 100 foot diameter 10'foot deep pond with a ten foot tall embankment and a 1-foot diameter pipe about 5 feet long going thru that bank to the next property. Where do I find a POND & DAM INSPECTOR to inspect that? The home inspector the real estate agent set up said just go to the town but I'm afraid of the town (I'd rather get a private assessment first). I don't even know what to look for in my searches (hydraulic engineer? dam inspector? pond inspector? civil engineer? waterway engineer?) Whoever they are, I need to ask those dam people if they think the embankment & outflow pipe is structurally sound and what it might need to fix it. Any help for me? |
On 6 Apr 2005 11:43:09 -0700, "Cdon" wrote:
Look in the dam NJ phone book ???? Click every day here to feed an animal !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ Free Temperature / Pressure charts for 38 Ref's http://pmilligan.net/pmtherm/ |
I would guess civil engineer |
"Cdon" wrote in message oups.com... Where do I find a private property dam inspector in NJ? There is land I'm interested in purchasing near Morristown New Jersey which has a tiny 100 foot diameter 10'foot deep pond with a ten foot tall embankment and a 1-foot diameter pipe about 5 feet long going thru that bank to the next property. Where do I find a POND & DAM INSPECTOR to inspect that? The home inspector the real estate agent set up said just go to the town but I'm afraid of the town (I'd rather get a private assessment first). I don't even know what to look for in my searches (hydraulic engineer? dam inspector? pond inspector? civil engineer? waterway engineer?) Whoever they are, I need to ask those dam people if they think the embankment & outflow pipe is structurally sound and what it might need to fix it. Any help for me? I would start with the extension office of that local county. Sounds a bit weird that the pipe is going to a neighbor. What are the water/ground water laws for NJ. I know in Colorado you can have water/river/stream on the property and can not use it. Best check with the county/local authority and find out what the deed restrictions/title are for the property. That information can be found in the county recorders office. It is public record.. I grew up on a farm in Iowa and if the dam did not leak that was good enough for us. |
I would go to a local farm supply store and ask there. If they don't know,
they would know where to find the answer. -- Bonnie NJ "Cdon" wrote in message oups.com... Where do I find a private property dam inspector in NJ? There is land I'm interested in purchasing near Morristown New Jersey which has a tiny 100 foot diameter 10'foot deep pond with a ten foot tall embankment and a 1-foot diameter pipe about 5 feet long going thru that bank to the next property. Where do I find a POND & DAM INSPECTOR to inspect that? The home inspector the real estate agent set up said just go to the town but I'm afraid of the town (I'd rather get a private assessment first). I don't even know what to look for in my searches (hydraulic engineer? dam inspector? pond inspector? civil engineer? waterway engineer?) Whoever they are, I need to ask those dam people if they think the embankment & outflow pipe is structurally sound and what it might need to fix it. Any help for me? |
"Cdon" wrote in message oups.com... Where do I find a private property dam inspector in NJ? There is land I'm interested in purchasing near Morristown New Jersey which has a tiny 100 foot diameter 10'foot deep pond with a ten foot tall embankment and a 1-foot diameter pipe about 5 feet long going thru that bank to the next property. Where do I find a POND & DAM INSPECTOR to inspect that? The home inspector the real estate agent set up said just go to the town but I'm afraid of the town (I'd rather get a private assessment first). I don't even know what to look for in my searches (hydraulic engineer? dam inspector? pond inspector? civil engineer? waterway engineer?) Whoever they are, I need to ask those dam people if they think the embankment & outflow pipe is structurally sound and what it might need to fix it. A title search should show any water rights currently belonging to your neighbor..... Any experienced real estate attorney could likely advise you here, also....if its been abandoned or fallen into dis-use, it shouldnt be a big legal hassle to get the rights vacated. Damn....might turn out this would be an excellent source for geothermal heating /cooling should you consider using water-source heat pumps..... -- SVL |
Cdon wrote:
Where do I find a private property dam inspector in NJ? I don't even know what to look for in my searches (hydraulic engineer? dam inspector? pond inspector? civil engineer? waterway engineer?) Whoever they are, I need to ask those dam people if they think the embankment & outflow pipe is structurally sound and what it might need to fix it. Any help for me? http://www.damsafety.org/ |
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longshot wrote:
I would guess civil engineer I tried three civil engineering companies referred to me by the town "planning and zoning" people. All three say they didn't have a clue where to get an inspector qualified to inspect a personal property dam. BTW, this dam is just an earth embankment with a pipe running through it so it's not all that complicated ... but I'm no way qualified to inspect it myself when I visit the property. |
AlanBown wrote: I would start with the extension office of that local county. I tried the town "planning & zoning" people (after the "construction" folks referred me to them). They said to call one of three engineering firms in the town but those engineering firms came up blank. They didn't have a clue who would inspect an earth embankment. Sounds a bit weird that the pipe is going to a neighbor. Maybe I explained it wrong. The pipe merely goes to the other side of the earch embankment (i.e., it transects the dam). It just sticks out the other side of this ten-foot-tall embankment. It just so happens the neighbor's property line is exactly at the foot of that embankment, parallel to the embankment ... so the results is that the water goes from the pond on property #1 to the pipe to a brook on property #2. What are the water/ground water laws for NJ. I do not know and I'm scared to death of the town becoming involved but I do know that if the system is broken, I'll need to fix it and if I want to modify anything I'll need competent engineering advice before I do anything to the riparian system. But, I'd like to do all that privately if possible. In Colorado you can have water/river/stream on the property & can not use it. I don't understand what this implies. All I'd use the incoming water for (which comes in from a stream) is to fill the pond and then spill out to the neighbor's property. Nothing else is intended (the house is situated only on 2 acres of hilly lawan so there's not much else to do with the water but let it run on by). Best check with the county/local authority and find out what the deed restrictions/title are for the property. As per above, I don't understand how this would matter. All I want to have is some professional person (civil engineer, hydraulic engineer, dam inspector, whatever) inspect it to tell me if it's safe and sound and if it's not, to then tell me what I need to do to fix it so that it is safe and sound. I grew up on a farm in Iowa and if the dam did not leak that was good enough for us. There's more to the story than I said in that the neighbor is complaining that it's structurally not sound (I think he is just trying to keep anyone from purchasing the property but I don't know that for a fact). All I need is the Internet listing to find a company that has the credentials to inspect an embankment such as this and tell me reliably what (if anything) needs to be done to make that dam safe & sound. What have I done wrong? Does anyone know of such a consultant in northern NJ? |
Cdon wrote:
All I need is the Internet listing to find a company that has the credentials to inspect an embankment such as this and tell me reliably what (if anything) needs to be done to make that dam safe & sound. What have I done wrong? Does anyone know of such a consultant in northern NJ? Buck, Seifert & Jost, Inc., Norwood, NJ Contact: Mr. Ronald M. Von Autenried, P.E., President Buck, Seifert & Jost, Inc. PO Box 415 65 Oak Street Norwood, NJ 07648-0415 Phone 201/767-3111 |
Dams are usually regulated by a State agency, rather than the city or
county. Check with your State: Department of Water Resources or something similar. -- Walter The Happy Iconoclast www.rationality.net "Cdon" wrote in message oups.com... Where do I find a private property dam inspector in NJ? There is land I'm interested in purchasing near Morristown New Jersey which has a tiny 100 foot diameter 10'foot deep pond with a ten foot tall embankment and a 1-foot diameter pipe about 5 feet long going thru that bank to the next property. Where do I find a POND & DAM INSPECTOR to inspect that? The home inspector the real estate agent set up said just go to the town but I'm afraid of the town (I'd rather get a private assessment first). I don't even know what to look for in my searches (hydraulic engineer? dam inspector? pond inspector? civil engineer? waterway engineer?) Whoever they are, I need to ask those dam people if they think the embankment & outflow pipe is structurally sound and what it might need to fix it. Any help for me? |
"Cdon" wrote in message oups.com... AlanBown wrote: I would start with the extension office of that local county. I tried the town "planning & zoning" people (after the "construction" folks referred me to them). They said to call one of three engineering firms in the town but those engineering firms came up blank. They didn't have a clue who would inspect an earth embankment. Sounds a bit weird that the pipe is going to a neighbor. Maybe I explained it wrong. The pipe merely goes to the other side of the earch embankment (i.e., it transects the dam). It just sticks out the other side of this ten-foot-tall embankment. It just so happens the neighbor's property line is exactly at the foot of that embankment, parallel to the embankment ... so the results is that the water goes from the pond on property #1 to the pipe to a brook on property #2. What are the water/ground water laws for NJ. I do not know and I'm scared to death of the town becoming involved but I do know that if the system is broken, I'll need to fix it and if I want to modify anything I'll need competent engineering advice before I do anything to the riparian system. But, I'd like to do all that privately if possible. In Colorado you can have water/river/stream on the property & can not use it. I don't understand what this implies. All I'd use the incoming water for (which comes in from a stream) is to fill the pond and then spill out to the neighbor's property. Nothing else is intended (the house is situated only on 2 acres of hilly lawan so there's not much else to do with the water but let it run on by). Best check with the county/local authority and find out what the deed restrictions/title are for the property. As per above, I don't understand how this would matter. All I want to have is some professional person (civil engineer, hydraulic engineer, dam inspector, whatever) inspect it to tell me if it's safe and sound and if it's not, to then tell me what I need to do to fix it so that it is safe and sound. I grew up on a farm in Iowa and if the dam did not leak that was good enough for us. There's more to the story than I said in that the neighbor is complaining that it's structurally not sound (I think he is just trying to keep anyone from purchasing the property but I don't know that for a fact). All I need is the Internet listing to find a company that has the credentials to inspect an embankment such as this and tell me reliably what (if anything) needs to be done to make that dam safe & sound. What have I done wrong? Does anyone know of such a consultant in northern NJ? army corps of engineers should tell you how to deal with water on the property, or where to find someone to look at it. in az they're the ones to go to if you have questions on the running of water in washes on your property. regards, charlie cave creek, az |
I might try contacting a few "landscape Architects" which should be in the
yellow pages and if that fails, try your NJ state contractors licensing board (or equivelent, whatever the actual name) to see what certification is required for that type of work and search for contractors with that license. "Cdon" wrote in message oups.com... Where do I find a private property dam inspector in NJ? There is land I'm interested in purchasing near Morristown New Jersey which has a tiny 100 foot diameter 10'foot deep pond with a ten foot tall embankment and a 1-foot diameter pipe about 5 feet long going thru that bank to the next property. Where do I find a POND & DAM INSPECTOR to inspect that? The home inspector the real estate agent set up said just go to the town but I'm afraid of the town (I'd rather get a private assessment first). I don't even know what to look for in my searches (hydraulic engineer? dam inspector? pond inspector? civil engineer? waterway engineer?) Whoever they are, I need to ask those dam people if they think the embankment & outflow pipe is structurally sound and what it might need to fix it. Any help for me? |
On 6 Apr 2005 14:13:21 -0700, "Cdon" wrote:
AlanBown wrote: I would start with the extension office of that local county. I tried the town "planning & zoning" people (after the "construction" folks referred me to them). They said to call one of three engineering firms in the town but those engineering firms came up blank. They didn't have a clue who would inspect an earth embankment. Sounds a bit weird that the pipe is going to a neighbor. Maybe I explained it wrong. The pipe merely goes to the other side of the earch embankment (i.e., it transects the dam). It just sticks out the other side of this ten-foot-tall embankment. It just so happens the neighbor's property line is exactly at the foot of that embankment, parallel to the embankment ... so the results is that the water goes from the pond on property #1 to the pipe to a brook on property #2. What are the water/ground water laws for NJ. I do not know and I'm scared to death of the town becoming involved but I do know that if the system is broken, I'll need to fix it and if I want to modify anything I'll need competent engineering advice before I do anything to the riparian system. But, I'd like to do all that privately if possible. In Colorado you can have water/river/stream on the property & can not use it. I don't understand what this implies. All I'd use the incoming water for (which comes in from a stream) is to fill the pond and then spill out to the neighbor's property. Nothing else is intended (the house is situated only on 2 acres of hilly lawan so there's not much else to do with the water but let it run on by). Best check with the county/local authority and find out what the deed restrictions/title are for the property. As per above, I don't understand how this would matter. All I want to have is some professional person (civil engineer, hydraulic engineer, dam inspector, whatever) inspect it to tell me if it's safe and sound and if it's not, to then tell me what I need to do to fix it so that it is safe and sound. I grew up on a farm in Iowa and if the dam did not leak that was good enough for us. There's more to the story than I said in that the neighbor is complaining that it's structurally not sound (I think he is just trying to keep anyone from purchasing the property but I don't know that for a fact). All I need is the Internet listing to find a company that has the credentials to inspect an embankment such as this and tell me reliably what (if anything) needs to be done to make that dam safe & sound. What have I done wrong? Does anyone know of such a consultant in northern NJ? Hmmm...I am not sure you are getting the tips that one would prefer in this situation, so let me just chew the cud. There is an earth bank dam holding 10 feet of water possibly , abutting a neighbor's land. And the neighbor's stream is close by the earth dam. So there is an erosion risk from the stream. Are there people or livestock down stream from a dam breach? If so, there is a risk. So, let's think about that earth dam. The biggest Earth dam anywhere (apparently) is at Dennison, Texas. That's the way they bill it anyway. It's described as a modern even experimental technique... Hmmm...no great support there! How about history? How long has the dam been in place? What is its service history? How often has it been full? If the history is favorable - with no breaches, no unplanned discharges, that seems like a plus. Then you would be left with inspecting for NEW erosion evidence which could lead to a first time breach. If the discharge tube is a high level discharge, could it be rerouted in some way? Could you enquire about insurance against a breach? The insuance company might want to inspect the risk. THEY would find the person to inspect it then...... ....as I say, just chewing the cud. One more suggestion: if the neighbor is suggesting the dam is unsound, I would document a question to him asking how the dam appears unsound, and does the neighbor have any recommendation to ameliorate his comfort level, as you wish to be a good neighbor. (You catch more flies with honey...) Good luck Brian Whatcott Altus OK |
"Cdon" wrote in message
oups.com... Where do I find a private property dam inspector in NJ? There is land I'm interested in purchasing near Morristown New Jersey which has a tiny 100 foot diameter 10'foot deep pond with a ten foot tall embankment and a 1-foot diameter pipe about 5 feet long going thru that bank to the next property. ------- Remainder clipped ------- Some comments -- A hydraulic engineer is a specialized civil engineer. That is what I was before my retirement some years ago. I will provide some comments in no particular order. 1. I doubt that pipe through a 10' embankment is only 5' long. I will assume it is much longer. 2. The surface area of the pond is about one-fifth of an acre. Assuming an average depth of 5', a failure of the embankment could flood an acre of land only 1' deep. Unless there are significant structures, houses, etc., downstream, the risks are pretty small. 3. One of the two principal failure modes for earthen dams is seepage under the embankment. Consider the number of years it has been in place. These failures usually show up shortly after the water is impounded. To inspect for problems, you look for damp soil or flowing springs below the dam. Small flows of *clear water* generally indicate a stable (safe) condition. Muddy flows indicate active erosion of the substrate of the dam and potential failure. 4. The other principal failure mode is spillway inadequacy. A spillway is usually provided to bypass sudden storm inflows that are too large for the normal outlet (that 1' pipe). It may be as simple as a sodded channel around the end of the embankment. Without a spillway, water might overflow the embankment causing a sudden spill of the water in the pond. 5. There are thousands of such small dams and ponds around the country. Many have been designed by the Soil Conservation Service of the U. S. Department of Agriculture. They usually are of simple design appropriate to their use and locale. The local office may (or may not) be able to help in evaluating the design of the outlet and spillway. 6. Some states require a permit before constructing such a pond. If so, there may be construction drawings on file. It is very likely that a search will show that the structure was never registered and you may be required to do that after the fact. 7. It seems you may be overly concerned for the soundness of this small structure. But -- and a big "but" -- I know nothing of the area downstream from the structure and I know nothing of the neighbors who may have a concern. If there is a real concern about the structure, it would be a simple matter to cut a trench through the embankment and let the pond drain. SJF |
Cdon wrote:
wrote: Look in the dam NJ phone book ???? http://www.state.nj.us/dep/damsafety/ I cheated by starting at Rutgers civil engineering. josh halpern |
Denison, not Dennison. (Birthplace of Dwight David Eisenhour) Completed in
late 40's with surveying of the turbine house in '45 or '46. National Parks Service had a recreational park, similar to Lake Mead, until 1948. First overflow of the dam, about 1963. There has been another earthen dam, not sure where, that exceeded the size. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "Brian Whatcott" wrote in message ... On 6 Apr 2005 14:13:21 -0700, "Cdon" wrote: So, let's think about that earth dam. The biggest Earth dam anywhere (apparently) is at Dennison, Texas. That's the way they bill it anyway. It's described as a modern even experimental technique... Hmmm...no great support there! Brian Whatcott Altus OK |
There are basically two different types of water law in the US. Eastern and
Western. In western water law, a person registers a claim, and noone upstream is allowed to use water that would affect that persons claim. If there is a serious drought, many people may have water go through their property, and not be able to use a drop. That is how California gets most of the Colorado river, though it has many more miles in Arizona. Eastern water law basically says that you can use the water that goes across your property, including damming it up, but you cannot divert the water to a different waterway. Some cities in the east are violating the water law, by creating lakes on one waterway, and piping the water to their citizens. This creates some change in flow pattern, allowing changes in species, etc. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "PrecisionMachinisT" wrote in message ... "Cdon" wrote in message oups.com... Where do I find a private property dam inspector in NJ? There is land I'm interested in purchasing near Morristown New Jersey which has a tiny 100 foot diameter 10'foot deep pond with a ten foot tall embankment and a 1-foot diameter pipe about 5 feet long going thru that bank to the next property. Where do I find a POND & DAM INSPECTOR to inspect that? The home inspector the real estate agent set up said just go to the town but I'm afraid of the town (I'd rather get a private assessment first). I don't even know what to look for in my searches (hydraulic engineer? dam inspector? pond inspector? civil engineer? waterway engineer?) Whoever they are, I need to ask those dam people if they think the embankment & outflow pipe is structurally sound and what it might need to fix it. A title search should show any water rights currently belonging to your neighbor..... Any experienced real estate attorney could likely advise you here, also....if its been abandoned or fallen into dis-use, it shouldnt be a big legal hassle to get the rights vacated. Damn....might turn out this would be an excellent source for geothermal heating /cooling should you consider using water-source heat pumps..... -- SVL |
"RichToyBox" wrote in message ... Denison, not Dennison. (Birthplace of Dwight David Eisenhour) Completed in late 40's with surveying of the turbine house in '45 or '46. National Parks Service had a recreational park, similar to Lake Mead, until 1948. First overflow of the dam, about 1963. There has been another earthen dam, not sure where, that exceeded the size. The Three Gorges dam in China? Not sure if that's a concrete or earth dam, but insanely huge. -S |
"Cdon" wrote in message
oups.com... Where do I find a private property dam inspector in NJ? There is land I'm interested in purchasing near Morristown New Jersey which has a tiny 100 foot diameter 10'foot deep pond with a ten foot tall embankment and a 1-foot diameter pipe about 5 feet long going thru that bank to the next property. Where do I find a POND & DAM INSPECTOR to inspect that? The home inspector the real estate agent set up said just go to the town but I'm afraid of the town (I'd rather get a private assessment first). I don't even know what to look for in my searches (hydraulic engineer? dam inspector? pond inspector? civil engineer? waterway engineer?) Whoever they are, I need to ask those dam people if they think the embankment & outflow pipe is structurally sound and what it might need to fix it. Any help for me? Does NJ have the chinese mitton crab? We have them out here in the SF bay area in California, those little guys love to burrow into levees and weaken them. Check with your local wildlife agency to make sure they aren't a problem in NJ yet. |
We have lots of Damn inspectors here in South Carolina. Want us to
send you some?! :-) Stretch (Sorry, I couldn't help myself! The inspectors here are really very nice!! :-) ) |
"RichToyBox" wrote in message ... There are basically two different types of water law in the US. Eastern and Western. In western water law, a person registers a claim, and noone upstream is allowed to use water that would affect that persons claim. If there is a serious drought, many people may have water go through their property, and not be able to use a drop. That is how California gets most of the Colorado river, though it has many more miles in Arizona. Eastern water law basically says that you can use the water that goes across your property, including damming it up, but you cannot divert the water to a different waterway. Some cities in the east are violating the water law, by creating lakes on one waterway, and piping the water to their citizens. This creates some change in flow pattern, allowing changes in species, etc. My experience comes from my purchasing a landlocked lot having a springhouse upon it, adjacent to my parcel a few years back...in SW Wa..... It had been used by the family whose heirs had filed the original donation land claim a few generations prior for irrigating some bottom lands for farming....but the pipeline hadn't been actually used since the early 50's.... The agreement was actually written by myself, then reviewed by an attorney....If I recall correctly, the agreement called for him to relinquish all rights to said water excepting I was to do nothing to cause the water to flow in a different direction than it currently followed.... -- SVL |
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To return to the original question 8-) In UK there are specialist inspectors for dams, and these will be registered as such with the ICE (the UK professional engineers association). I suspect that the American association would have a similar scheme, or at least ought to know who the particular specialists are. If you can find the person - he will undertake the inspection, either individually or as a representative of his company (more likely) Keith |
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/damsafety/ I cheated by starting at Rutgers civil engineering. Also http://www.state.nj.us/dep/nhr/engin...y/standard.pdf and http://www.state.nj.us/dep/nhr/engin...y/vicguid2.doc The latter is the actual checklist. --Goedjn |
On 6 Apr 2005 13:57:05 -0700, "Cdon" wrote:
wrote: Look in the dam NJ phone book ???? I should mention I live 1000 miles away from this property so everything needs to be done by the Internet. I already called the town who said they didn't have a clue what category to look under (they gave me the names of three "Engineering" firms in the town but they also didn't have a clue what to look under". So, the problem isn't to look in the phone book (I'd be glad to if I had one and I knew what to look for) ... it's what CATEGORY to look in the Internet. PJM: Do you know what to look for in that phone book? I don't even HAVE a dam NJ phone book. Do you know what a bad pun is ???? Click every day here to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ Free Temperature / Pressure charts for 38 Ref's http://pmilligan.net/pmtherm/ |
Check with Alaimo Group Mount Holly, (609)267-8310. They have a wide
ranging engineering service and are currently involved with some dam reconstruction in the area. "AlanBown" wrote in message ... "Cdon" wrote in message oups.com... Where do I find a private property dam inspector in NJ? There is land I'm interested in purchasing near Morristown New Jersey which has a tiny 100 foot diameter 10'foot deep pond with a ten foot tall embankment and a 1-foot diameter pipe about 5 feet long going thru that bank to the next property. Where do I find a POND & DAM INSPECTOR to inspect that? The home inspector the real estate agent set up said just go to the town but I'm afraid of the town (I'd rather get a private assessment first). I don't even know what to look for in my searches (hydraulic engineer? dam inspector? pond inspector? civil engineer? waterway engineer?) Whoever they are, I need to ask those dam people if they think the embankment & outflow pipe is structurally sound and what it might need to fix it. Any help for me? I would start with the extension office of that local county. Sounds a bit weird that the pipe is going to a neighbor. What are the water/ground water laws for NJ. I know in Colorado you can have water/river/stream on the property and can not use it. Best check with the county/local authority and find out what the deed restrictions/title are for the property. That information can be found in the county recorders office. It is public record.. I grew up on a farm in Iowa and if the dam did not leak that was good enough for us. |
Gerald wrote:
Check with Alaimo Group Mount Holly, (609)267-8310. You have a very difficult problem indeed. Nobody on the Internet will likely be able to help you. I have a similar problem in Lake Hopatcong, NJ. I called a dozen plumbers in the local yellow pages. They all basically said the same answer. FWIW, here is what I learned about the problem & the solution. THE COST: - The pipe-inspection people charge about 2000 dollars a day - My application, they said, would cost about $1000 to inspect (1/2 day) THE PROBLEM: - I have a Z-shaped 10" diameter cast-iron stream outlet pipe - The inlet is about 7 feet above the outlet - The distance from the inlet to the outlet is about 10 feet TWO PIPE TESTS ARE AVAILABLE: - Place a FERNCO cap on the outlet & measure leakage from inlet - Place a EXPANDABLE BALL on the outlet & measure leakage from inlet - Send a VIDEO CAMERA from the outlet to the inlet & inspect for damage FERNCO CAP: - The Fernco cap sits on the end of the exposed outlet pipe - It is clamped down (requiring about 2 inches of pipe to grip) - Over a 24-hour period, measure leakage from the inlet area BALL METHOD: - The ball method entails plugging the outlet 24 hours - The ball expands with compressed air to block the outlet - If the inlet area shows signs of drainage, then there is a leak VIDEO METHOD: - The video method entails sending a light & camera up the pipe - The video camera allows the operator to see any cracks & clogs - 45 degree bends are acceptable (90 degree bends are not) I was able, after much searching in the yellow pages under "plumbers" and a day of searching on the Internet for "pipe inspection drainage sewer" to find only three outfits that perform this inspection task in the whole of North Jersey. None of them could send a camera up because of my 90 degree bends. None could use the FERNCO CAP because the outlet was flush with a rock wall (therefore there was no 2 inch grip). All could use the ball method, which is imprecise at best. For my $1000 dollars, I'll just have to build a new outlet pipe for my stream (unless some genius on the Internet has an idea which actually works). |
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